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Mike Hunter

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:50 am
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Pipe dreams, eclectic vehicle may some day replace some or even most of the
conventionally powered vehicles, as battery technology catch up, but that is
far down the road. The fact is the world will depend on crude for at least
the next 50 to 75 years or more. We get far more things from crude than
fuel. The fact is the world runs on oil, period.

If we stop using gasoline to power our cars they will simply have to burn of
the gasoline at the refineries, like they must burn off the NG at the well
heads and at the refineries today, that can not be distribute and sold.

If we stop drilling in the Gulf the six or more countries that drill there
will continue to drill in the Gulf. If we import more oil there will be
MORE tankers in our harbors because we NEED the crude and it many
derivatives.

The current spill may be the largest in US history but is certainly not the
largest in the Gulf of Mexico.
Mexico had a spell in the eighties that lasted for nine months before it was
stopped and the ecosystem survived.




"Bjorn" wrote in message

On 31 Maj, 18:34, "Tom" wrote:
> "Bjorn" wrote in message
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> > On 31 Maj, 16:00, "Tom" wrote:
> >> "Bjorn" wrote in message
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> >> > On 31 Maj, 13:31, Nate Nagel wrote:
> >> >> On 05/31/2010 08:39 AM, Jim_Higgins wrote:
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> >> >> > Unfortunately others will build a real electric-as GM could have
> >> >> > done
> >> >> > with the EV-1. That old mindset is still there and it will do them
> >> >> > ill.
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> >> >> Guys, the EV-1 was never a practical commercial product. You can
> >> >> blame
> >> >> GM for a lot of things but not selling the EV-1 outright is not one
> >> >> of
> >> >> them, that was a good business decision. Give them props for doing
> >> >> the
> >> >> R&D to develop it to the point that it was, then move on.
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> >> >> nate
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> >> >> --
> >> >> replace "roosters" with "cox" to
> >> >> reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel
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> >> > An electrical car is much simpler than the rest.
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> >> > You need a
> >> > a) box
> >> > b) generator
> >> > c) batteries
> >> > d) BMS to control the batteries.
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> >> > a) is very easy and everyone and his grandmother can make one.
> >> > b) a hell of a lot of variety and know technology available
> >> > c) these are available but mostly still a bit expensive
> >> > d) these are a bit varied in quality but there are good options
> >> > available
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> >> > For pretty much anyone it is possible to make one in the home garage.
> >> > You can take an old car and make the change.
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> >> > There is no rocket science needed to put together an electric car.
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> >> > For a company needing to make the box 10 to 100 times more expensive
> >> > to pay for fat cat management it is a dead end.
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> >> > Making one Volt costs X the cost to the customer is 100X
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> >> > 90X are needed for bonuses
> >> > 9X for marketing
> >> > 1X for making the car
> >> > --------
> >> > 100X Price of the Volt
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> >> > Make one in you garage will cost you from 3X to 10X depending on your
> >> > skill.
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> >> you would only be able to drive it on your own property it still needs
> >> to
> >> pass all safety and other regs. drive it hit someone and they own you
> >> forever. golf carts already exist try driving it on the highway. Every
> >> thing is always simple in the mind of simple people.
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> > I know several people who have taken ordinary cars and changed them
> > into electrical cars.
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> > Take out the old motor, fuel tank, remove exhaust system put in
> > batteries and generator and they can and do drive on the highway.
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> > Very simple.
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> > It works and more and more people do this and the driving costs more
> > or less disappear.
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> > The strange thing is the old registration remains the same.
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> >http://ecars-now.wikidot.com/
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> The BS bells went off. personally know several people. how far did they
> go.
> how did they drive etc. you probably don't even have a drivers license. a
> home made car is worthless.
> and probably unsafe, show me proof, not internet stuff, the several you
> saw. Not likey troll

http://www.electricvehicleev.com/
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Transportation/2007-06-01/Volt-El...ric-Car
http://ezinearticles.com/?Electric-Car-Conversion&id=1551615
http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1044695_are-infrastructure-changes-a-myth
http://www.allcarselectric.com/blog/1043600_electric-polaris-ranger-at...hanges-
http://www.chevrolet.com/pages/open/default/future/volt.do
http://www.pluginamerica.org/index.shtml

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Mike Hunter

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:58 am
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Perhaps where you live, but not in any US state of which I am aware. EVER
"Motor Vehicle" driven on the public high ways must be licensed, insured and
inspected and the operator must be licensed. If it uses a "fuel" the owner
must pay the federal and state motor fuels taxes, as well


"Bjorn" wrote in message


Electrical bicycles are treated as something else and do not get any
tax and do not need to be registered but can be driven anywhere as
bicycles.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:08 am
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GM was able to makw a lighter battery as compared to EV1's..it is 70% lighter lead acid battery pack. this was mainly due to the use higher specific energy Li-ion batteries.
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