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Since: Feb 26, 2005 Posts: 246
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:14 am
Post subject: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier broke due to Chevron Archived from groups: alt>collecting>8-track-tapes, others (more info?)
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GM may soon be feeling some of Chrysler's pain over bankrupt
suppliers. The CarConnection reports Cobasys, supplier of the NiMH
batteries used in the light-hybrid Vue, Aura and Malibu and holder of
"a key contract in the development of GM's much-anticipated plug-in
hybrid, the Volt," is out of money. The battery maker lost more than
$76m last year and expect to lose $82m this year. To make matters
worse, the company's joint owners, ChevronTexaco and ECD, can't agree
on the 2008 budget. So Cobays' operating budget is $92m short.
Cobasys is now on GM's "distressed supplier list;" the General refuses
to comment on the situation. In the meantime, GM has struck a deal to
buy batteries for its two-mode hybrid trucks from a Panasonic - Toyota
joint venture.
Note how it's ChevronTexaco who's putting the kibosh on Cobasys by
stalling their budgeting...another move by Big Oil to stop any move
toward electric propulsion dead in its tracks. A Democratic
administration will probably have the government take over funding of
NiMH development, thus ruining this attempt by Big Oil to "defund"
competition for their products into oblivion.
To read more:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/cobasys-crisis-has-gm-buyin...atterie >> Stay informed about: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier bro.. |
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Since: May 03, 2007 Posts: 828
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:40 pm
Post subject: Re: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier broke [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>autos>gm, others (more info?)
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DeserTBoB wrote:
> GM may soon be feeling some of Chrysler's pain over bankrupt
> suppliers. The CarConnection reports Cobasys, supplier of the NiMH
> batteries used in the light-hybrid Vue, Aura and Malibu and holder of
> "a key contract in the development of GM's much-anticipated plug-in
> hybrid, the Volt," is out of money. The battery maker lost more than
> $76m last year and expect to lose $82m this year. To make matters
> worse, the company's joint owners, ChevronTexaco and ECD, can't agree
> on the 2008 budget. So Cobays' operating budget is $92m short.
> Cobasys is now on GM's "distressed supplier list;" the General refuses
> to comment on the situation. In the meantime, GM has struck a deal to
> buy batteries for its two-mode hybrid trucks from a Panasonic - Toyota
> joint venture.
>
> Note how it's ChevronTexaco who's putting the kibosh on Cobasys by
> stalling their budgeting...another move by Big Oil to stop any move
> toward electric propulsion dead in its tracks. A Democratic
> administration will probably have the government take over funding of
> NiMH development, thus ruining this attempt by Big Oil to "defund"
> competition for their products into oblivion.
>
> To read more:
>
> http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/cobasys-crisis-has-gm-buyin...atterie
And GM gets to say "Gee guys we sure tried hard (!) but other factors
prevent our producing the Volt. Pause here for sounds of weeping and
wailing from GM. Volt/EV-1/Etc. all died aborning. Fast forward a
short time to where GM is a minor parts supplier to Toyota and Honda.
End of story for Detroit's incompetence.
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Civis Romanus Sum >> Stay informed about: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier bro.. |
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Since: Sep 10, 2006 Posts: 25
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:05 pm
Post subject: Re: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier broke due [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Mike hunt wrote:
> Do you think $3 a gallon is high to you? If the dims have their way that
> "Big Oil' you hate will be charging over $4 a gallon after the Dims raise
> the taxes on "Big Oil" a BILLION dollars a year. Does the old adage, There
> is not fee lunch ring a bell
What about all the oil that was supposed to come from Iraq after
Saddam was kicked out? >> Stay informed about: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier bro.. |
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Since: Nov 21, 2007 Posts: 264
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:47 pm
Post subject: Re: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier broke due to Chevron [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Does the words "Lithium" or HD DVD and Blue Tooth, ring a bell
Do you think $3 a gallon is high to you? If the dims have their way that
"Big Oil' you hate will be charging over $4 a gallon after the Dims raise
the taxes on "Big Oil" a BILLION dollars a year. Does the old adage, There
is not fee lunch ring a bell
"Jim Higgins" wrote in message
>> Note how it's ChevronTexaco who's putting the kibosh on Cobasys by
>> stalling their budgeting...another move by Big Oil to stop any move
>> toward electric propulsion dead in its tracks. A Democratic
>> administration will probably have the government take over funding of
>> NiMH development, thus ruining this attempt by Big Oil to "defund"
>> competition for their products into oblivion.
>> >> Stay informed about: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier bro.. |
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Since: Jan 21, 2008 Posts: 75
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:19 pm
Post subject: Re: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier broke due to Chevron [Login to view extended thread Info.] Imported from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Since: May 21, 2007 Posts: 1219
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:59 pm
Post subject: Re: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier broke [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Mike hunt wrote:
> Does the words "Lithium" or HD DVD and Blue Tooth, ring a bell
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> Do you think $3 a gallon is high to you? If the dims have their way that
> "Big Oil' you hate will be charging over $4 a gallon after the Dims raise
> the taxes on "Big Oil" a BILLION dollars a year. Does the old adage, There
> is not fee lunch ring a bell
>
>
>
> "Jim Higgins" wrote in message
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>>> Note how it's ChevronTexaco who's putting the kibosh on Cobasys by
>>> stalling their budgeting...another move by Big Oil to stop any move
>>> toward electric propulsion dead in its tracks. A Democratic
>>> administration will probably have the government take over funding of
>>> NiMH development, thus ruining this attempt by Big Oil to "defund"
>>> competition for their products into oblivion.
$1 billion is about 1/10 of the profit of what ExxonMobil makes in one
year on US sales (3/4 of ExxonMobil's profit is outside the US).
Jeff >> Stay informed about: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier bro.. |
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Since: Sep 20, 2007 Posts: 189
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:17 am
Post subject: Re: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier broke due to Chevron [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:59:06 GMT, Jeff wrote:
>Mike hunt wrote:
>> Does the words "Lithium" or HD DVD and Blue Tooth, ring a bell
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you think $3 a gallon is high to you? If the dims have their way that
>> "Big Oil' you hate will be charging over $4 a gallon after the Dims raise
>> the taxes on "Big Oil" a BILLION dollars a year. Does the old adage, There
>> is not fee lunch ring a bell
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jim Higgins" wrote in message
>>
>>>> Note how it's ChevronTexaco who's putting the kibosh on Cobasys by
>>>> stalling their budgeting...another move by Big Oil to stop any move
>>>> toward electric propulsion dead in its tracks. A Democratic
>>>> administration will probably have the government take over funding of
>>>> NiMH development, thus ruining this attempt by Big Oil to "defund"
>>>> competition for their products into oblivion.
>
>$1 billion is about 1/10 of the profit of what ExxonMobil makes in one
>year on US sales (3/4 of ExxonMobil's profit is outside the US).
>
>Jeff
Who pays a tax levied on a corporation?
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Since: Jan 01, 2005 Posts: 1154
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:17 am
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Since: Jan 21, 2008 Posts: 75
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:17 am
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Since: Sep 20, 2007 Posts: 189
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:00 am
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:41:16 -0500, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote:
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>"Scott in Florida" wrote in message
>> Who pays a tax levied on a corporation?
>>
>> --
>> Scott in Florida
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>Does not matter. Once Hillary is President, corporations will no longer be
>allowed a profit and they will pay all the taxes. It will be like living in
>Paradise with everything taken care of by the government.
>
LOL...for sure.
Only problem...Hillary is toast.
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Since: Oct 21, 2006 Posts: 64
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:30 am
Post subject: Re: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier broke due to Chevron [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>collecting>8-track-tapes, others (more info?)
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"DeserTBoB" wrote in message
> GM may soon be feeling some of Chrysler's pain over bankrupt
> suppliers. The CarConnection reports Cobasys, supplier of the NiMH
> batteries used in the light-hybrid Vue, Aura and Malibu and holder of
> "a key contract in the development of GM's much-anticipated plug-in
> hybrid, the Volt," is out of money. The battery maker lost more than
> $76m last year and expect to lose $82m this year. To make matters
> worse, the company's joint owners, ChevronTexaco and ECD, can't agree
> on the 2008 budget. So Cobays' operating budget is $92m short.
> Cobasys is now on GM's "distressed supplier list;" the General refuses
> to comment on the situation. In the meantime, GM has struck a deal to
> buy batteries for its two-mode hybrid trucks from a Panasonic - Toyota
> joint venture.
>
> Note how it's ChevronTexaco who's putting the kibosh on Cobasys by
> stalling their budgeting...another move by Big Oil to stop any move
> toward electric propulsion dead in its tracks. A Democratic
> administration will probably have the government take over funding of
> NiMH development, thus ruining this attempt by Big Oil to "defund"
> competition for their products into oblivion.
>
> To read more:
>
> http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/news-blog/cobasys-crisis-has-gm-buyin...atterie
I bet GM is kicking itself in the ass because they sold Stan Ovshinsky's
Ovonics patents to Chevron in the first place after they crushed all of the
EV1s >> Stay informed about: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier bro.. |
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Since: Feb 29, 2008 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:36 am
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:36 am
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LMFAO !! Electric car in Manitoba HAHAHAHAH it would freeze HAHAHAH My soon
to be brother in law lives there and says he has his car programmed to start
every 45min or the thing will freeze solid!! No joke He said the one time
his car didn't start and the weather dropped 46 below with wind chill and
the battery froze, rad fluid froze and oil was like mud BUT wait.. if the
car is electric.. just plug in hair dryer
"William W Western" wrote in message
> Electric car in Winnipeg? Forget it...might as well start walkin'. >> Stay informed about: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier bro.. |
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Since: Feb 26, 2005 Posts: 246
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:36 am
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Since: May 21, 2007 Posts: 1219
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:38 am
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dbu wrote:
> In article
> ,
> beerspill.RemoveThis@whoever.com wrote:
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>> Mike hunt wrote:
>>
>>> Do you think $3 a gallon is high to you? If the dims have their way that
>>> "Big Oil' you hate will be charging over $4 a gallon after the Dims raise
>>> the taxes on "Big Oil" a BILLION dollars a year. Does the old adage, There
>>> is not fee lunch ring a bell
>> What about all the oil that was supposed to come from Iraq after
>> Saddam was kicked out?
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> Not to even mention the states taxes on gas. You will be LUCKY to be
> paying $4/gal. Remember, don't blame it on the big oil companies. Just
> be thankful they are providing you with the fuel so you may joy ride
> around in addition to going to your work.
In 2006, something like 51 billion gallons of fuel (gasoline, jet fuel,
diesel, home heating oil) were sold. If that $1 Billion in taxes is
passed on to the consumer, that comes out to less than $0.02 per gallon
of fuel.
Jeff >> Stay informed about: GM goes further down the dumper; NiHM battery supplier bro.. |
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