GM Dealer Challenges the Toyota Tundra's Ads... AS BULL

External Since: Sep 16, 2005 Posts: 1536

I guess we can assume you do not go to many bone yards. As a percentage of
the trucks sold in the US, there are a hell of a lot more rusted Toyota
trucks in the bone yards Wink

mike

"mack" <mackerel.DeleteThis@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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> "C. E. White" <cewhite3.DeleteThis@removemindspring.com> wrote in message
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>> Borrowed off the Internet....I am just the messenger, although I agree
>> that the new Tundra ads are deliberately misleading....
>>
>> Lou Kaltenstein
>> President
>> Gene Norris Buick-GMC Trucks Inc./Norris Auto Group
>> 18170 Bagley Rd
>> Middleburg Hts., Ohio 44130
>>
>> There has been a lot of talk about Toyota Tundra's new ads and how
>> impressive they are. Here are some myths about their spots that I have
>> found and that should be refuted. Also, they are offering a "IVC" type
>> program on Tundra to help with sales.
>>
>> I would guess all of you have seen the ad where the Tundra pulls a
>> trailer up a steep grade (a 'see-saw'), and then barrels down hill and
>> locks the brakes up just before the end of the ramp. Many of you have
>> commented on how well done the spot is visually. However, here are the
>> actual facts to share with people:
>>
>> 1. The V.O. at the beginning of the spot says...."It's tough pushing
>> 10,000 lbs up a steep grade". Myth: Toyota would like the audience to
>> believe the trailer is 10,000 lbs. Fact: It's a 5,000 lb truck pulling a
>> 5,000 lb trailer. A little slight of hand? You bet.
>>
>
> It's tough pushing 10,000 lbs up a steep grade. I may not be a numbers
> cruncher by trade,
> but the last time I looked, 5000 lbs of truck plus 5000 lbs of trailer
> equals 10,000 lbs.
> Where's the deception? No 'sleight' of hand here.
>
>
>
>> 2. Then, on the way down the grade, the camera zooms in on the brakes as
>> the vehicles comes to a screeching halt just prior to the end of ramp.
>> Next time you see the ad....look for the 'mice type'. It indicates the
>> trailer is equipped with electric brakes. Fact....the electric brakes
>> stop the trailer -- not the truck. A little slight of hand? You bet.
>
> I guess the 'mice type' was large enough for you to read, and to note the
> fact
> that the trailer has electric brakes. No deception here either.
>>
>> 3. And why does Toyota have bigger brake pads? They need them....their
>> truck is heavier. Stopping distance between our truck and theirs is
>> virtually identical. And why does Toyota have a 6 speed transmission? To
>> improve their fuel economy....which is still 2 mpg less than ours.
>
> You say "virtually" identical. What are the ACTUAL stopping distances of
> the
> two trucks?????
> A six speed transmission is inherently more versatile than a four speed.
> SO?
>
>>
>> 4. And don't forget....their big V8 has one axle ratio -- a 4.3. Suck
>> fuel much? Our trucks offer several axle options to optimize towing and
>> fuel economy.
>>
>> Ed
>
> Mebbe, but the Toyota will still be driving like a new truck when the GMC
> is on
> its third owner, or in a boneyard.
>

External Since: Sep 16, 2005 Posts: 1536

No so, all F150s with the trailer tow package have the 4.5 V8 standard.

mike

"Ed White" <ce.white3.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 16, 4:54 pm, "Mike Hunter" <mikehu....TakeThisOut@mailcity.com> wrote:
>> Get real. Ford is the Silverado competition not the Tundra. Ford sells
>> 35%
>> of the full-size trucks in the US. Chevy 30% and Toyota a measly 5%.
>> The
>> base engine in the Tundra is a only a V6. The F150 has a six speed and a
>> V8
>> is standard as well. The Tundra is just beginning to catch up to the
>> build
>> quality of what GM, Ford and Dodge have been offering in their truck for
>> years
>>
>> mike
>
> Mike,
>
> Actually Ford and Chevrolet also have standard V-6s in their half ton
> pickup trucks. When I was shopping for a pickup last year it was much
> easier to find a V-6 F150 than a V-6 Tundra. There was not a single
> V-6 Tundra on any of the local lots for me to test drive. V-6 F150
> were easy to fiind.
>
> Ed
>