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Ken K

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:37 pm
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I'm looking at buying a 02-04 A6. Do any of the available engines require
that you run premium fuel?
Thanks, K

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:55 pm
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Yes, but if you run regular the engine will adapt in normal driving and
the give up will be performance and according to conventional wisdome,
mileage will be poorer.

If you drive your car more aggressively you would need to go with 93 or
at least 91 octane (US Octane rating).

I have previously owned a '98 1.8 TQM (APR chipped stage 1) and
currently have an '04 1.8 TQ6M. The I kept the '98 to 95K miles and
currently have 68K on the '04. I have used 91 octane in the city and 89
on the highway. I have also compared highway mileage over many tanks (I
dive on the road a lot) on both grades and if anything it seems that
mileage is better by 4 or 5 percent on the 89 octane. Go figure.

I'm getting ready to put on my flack vest after that comment.

The engine management including knock sensors and O2 seem to handle my
driving and fuel choices quite well.

Ken K wrote:
> I'm looking at buying a 02-04 A6. Do any of the available engines require
> that you run premium fuel?
> Thanks, K
>
>

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Kevin McMurtrie1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:34 pm
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In article <13b2htekgi5uf9b RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
Tony <tonyjNOSPAM RemoveThis @NOSPAMvisi.com> wrote:

> Yes, but if you run regular the engine will adapt in normal driving and
> the give up will be performance and according to conventional wisdome,
> mileage will be poorer.
>
> If you drive your car more aggressively you would need to go with 93 or
> at least 91 octane (US Octane rating).
>
> I have previously owned a '98 1.8 TQM (APR chipped stage 1) and
> currently have an '04 1.8 TQ6M. The I kept the '98 to 95K miles and
> currently have 68K on the '04. I have used 91 octane in the city and 89
> on the highway. I have also compared highway mileage over many tanks (I
> dive on the road a lot) on both grades and if anything it seems that
> mileage is better by 4 or 5 percent on the 89 octane. Go figure.
>
> I'm getting ready to put on my flack vest after that comment.
>
> The engine management including knock sensors and O2 seem to handle my
> driving and fuel choices quite well.

My 2007 A3 3.2 also runs fine on lower octane gas for mild driving.
Freeway cruising gives exactly the same milage. I think I felt a loss
of responsiveness.

The type of engine and climate probably matters a lot. The A3 3.2
doesn't have a turbo, a high compression ratio, or any exotic designs
that would require high octane gas. Except for that intake comb-over,
it seems like a pretty boring engine.


> Ken K wrote:
> > I'm looking at buying a 02-04 A6. Do any of the available engines require
> > that you run premium fuel?
> > Thanks, K
> >
> >
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Dave LaCourse

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:59 am
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:37:33 -0400, "Ken K" <kkowalk13 DeleteThis @comcast.net>
wrote:

>I'm looking at buying a 02-04 A6. Do any of the available engines require
>that you run premium fuel?

As long as the engine is non-turbo, you should have no problems
burning 89 octane. The car will adjust to the type of gas you choose
to buy. You will probably experience less than the maximum
performance level of the engine, however, with a lower octane. I have
put 89 octane in my RS6 (V8 with twin turbos) and it ran just fine. I
did notice a decline in performance, but that was because of how I
drive. d;o)

Dave
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Russell Lewis

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:43 am
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Ok... Seriously... if you have an RS6 (or any newer audi) you can afford
the $4-5 more a fillup for premium. If you can't, you should probably be
looking at a cheaper car.
I love my 2.0T A4, and will never put anything but premium in my car.
-Russell

On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 06:59:36 -0400, Dave LaCourse
<dplacourse.DeleteThis@pirateaol.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:37:33 -0400, "Ken K" <kkowalk13.DeleteThis@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking at buying a 02-04 A6. Do any of the available engines
>> require
>> that you run premium fuel?
>
> As long as the engine is non-turbo, you should have no problems
> burning 89 octane. The car will adjust to the type of gas you choose
> to buy. You will probably experience less than the maximum
> performance level of the engine, however, with a lower octane. I have
> put 89 octane in my RS6 (V8 with twin turbos) and it ran just fine. I
> did notice a decline in performance, but that was because of how I
> drive. d;o)
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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G-man uk

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:50 pm
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Russell Lewis wrote:
> Ok... Seriously... if you have an RS6 (or any newer audi) you can
> afford the $4-5 more a fillup for premium. If you can't, you should
> probably be looking at a cheaper car.
> I love my 2.0T A4, and will never put anything but premium in my car.
> -Russell

http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/premium/questions.html
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Dave LaCourse

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:55 pm
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:43:31 -0400, "Russell Lewis"
<russlewi RemoveThis @cisco.com> wrote:

>Ok... Seriously... if you have an RS6 (or any newer audi) you can afford
>the $4-5 more a fillup for premium. If you can't, you should probably be
>looking at a cheaper car.
>I love my 2.0T A4, and will never put anything but premium in my car.


Sure, I can afford it. But if ya get stuck with only 89 octane (the
91 (or was it 93?) pump is broken, whatya want me to do? Get a cab
and try to find a higher octane somewhere. I mean, it was 2 in the
morning, raining, cold, in the middle of nowhere, wind blowing like a
son-of-gun, and I had to exit from the NY Thruway, my wife was having
labor pains, and our other four kids were in the back seat crying
because their mom was making all these strange noises. I mean, what
the hell did ya want me to do, buster? Oh, the humanity.

An RS6 will run just fine on 89; it simply means ya can't play.

Dave
(who is wonderin' what the little boy will do when I tell him I put 89
in my new R8 {when it arrives}) d;o)
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Sri Krsna

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:44 pm
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Dave LaCourse wrote:

>
>Sure, I can afford it. But if ya get stuck with only 89 octane (the
>91 (or was it 93?) pump is broken, whatya want me to do? Get a cab
>and try to find a higher octane somewhere. I mean, it was 2 in the
>morning, raining, cold, in the middle of nowhere, wind blowing like a
>son-of-gun, and I had to exit from the NY Thruway, my wife was having
>labor pains, and our other four kids were in the back seat crying
>because their mom was making all these strange noises. I mean, what
>the hell did ya want me to do, buster? Oh, the humanity.
>
>An RS6 will run just fine on 89; it simply means ya can't play.
>
>
>
The problem I have here in Boston is that most gas stations, save
Sunoco, doesn't offer 91. It's either 89 or 93. When I picked up my 2.0T
Quattro last year, my salesman went over this and advised that I should
alternate fill-ups with 89 one week and 93 the next. So far, this has
worked out fine even though I tend to fill-up more with 93. And even
with a full tank of 89, you can still play with little difference in
performance.....well, at least with my car.
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Mick x

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:47 am
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Do a search on 'Octane' within this group - tons of info......


On 2/8/07 16:50, in article 5hecm6F3kbionU1 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net, "G-man uk"
<me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote:

> Russell Lewis wrote:
>> Ok... Seriously... if you have an RS6 (or any newer audi) you can
>> afford the $4-5 more a fillup for premium. If you can't, you should
>> probably be looking at a cheaper car.
>> I love my 2.0T A4, and will never put anything but premium in my car.
>> -Russell
>
> http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/premium/questions.html
>
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Russell Lewis

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:48 am
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Lol, sounds like a fun situation that you were in. I'm just used to
hearing the people at audiworld bitch about how they don't want to have to
pay for premium gas in their new 2.0T's they just spent over 30k on.

As for me, I don't mind the 93 octane (there is no 91 in GA). And I
suppose if I was out of gas and the only station had 89, I could always
drop my car out of APR 93 mode and back to stock :->. I'd miss the
horsepower though.

Cheers to the R8 tho! I hope you don't have to wait too long. I hear
that wait list is approaching F430 waits (for low rank ferrari owners).

-Russell



On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:55:59 -0400, Dave LaCourse
<dplacourse RemoveThis @pirateaol.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:43:31 -0400, "Russell Lewis"
> <russlewi RemoveThis @cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok... Seriously... if you have an RS6 (or any newer audi) you can afford
>> the $4-5 more a fillup for premium. If you can't, you should probably
>> be
>> looking at a cheaper car.
>> I love my 2.0T A4, and will never put anything but premium in my car.
>
>
> Sure, I can afford it. But if ya get stuck with only 89 octane (the
> 91 (or was it 93?) pump is broken, whatya want me to do? Get a cab
> and try to find a higher octane somewhere. I mean, it was 2 in the
> morning, raining, cold, in the middle of nowhere, wind blowing like a
> son-of-gun, and I had to exit from the NY Thruway, my wife was having
> labor pains, and our other four kids were in the back seat crying
> because their mom was making all these strange noises. I mean, what
> the hell did ya want me to do, buster? Oh, the humanity.
>
> An RS6 will run just fine on 89; it simply means ya can't play.
>
> Dave
> (who is wonderin' what the little boy will do when I tell him I put 89
> in my new R8 {when it arrives}) d;o)
>
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:30 pm
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 11:48:32 -0400, "Russell Lewis" <russlewi.TakeThisOut@cisco.com>
wrote:
>
>On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 21:55:59 -0400, Dave LaCourse
><dplacourse.TakeThisOut@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:43:31 -0400, "Russell Lewis"
>> <russlewi.TakeThisOut@cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok... Seriously... if you have an RS6 (or any newer audi) you can afford
>>> the $4-5 more a fillup for premium. If you can't, you should probably
>>> be
>>> looking at a cheaper car.
>>> I love my 2.0T A4, and will never put anything but premium in my car.
>>
>>
>> Sure, I can afford it. But if ya get stuck with only 89 octane (the
>> 91 (or was it 93?) pump is broken, whatya want me to do? Get a cab
>> and try to find a higher octane somewhere. I mean, it was 2 in the
>> morning, raining, cold, in the middle of nowhere, wind blowing like a
>> son-of-gun, and I had to exit from the NY Thruway, my wife was having
>> labor pains, and our other four kids were in the back seat crying
>> because their mom was making all these strange noises. I mean, what
>> the hell did ya want me to do, buster? Oh, the humanity.
>>
>> An RS6 will run just fine on 89; it simply means ya can't play.
>>
>> Dave
>> (who is wonderin' what the little boy will do when I tell him I put 89
>> in my new R8 {when it arrives}) d;o)
>>
>Lol, sounds like a fun situation that you were in. I'm just used to
>hearing the people at audiworld bitch about how they don't want to have to
>pay for premium gas in their new 2.0T's they just spent over 30k on.
>
>As for me, I don't mind the 93 octane (there is no 91 in GA). And I
>suppose if I was out of gas and the only station had 89, I could always
>drop my car out of APR 93 mode and back to stock :->. I'd miss the
>horsepower though.
>
>Cheers to the R8 tho! I hope you don't have to wait too long. I hear
>that wait list is approaching F430 waits (for low rank ferrari owners).
>
>-Russell

You actually bought that tall tale? ahahahahahahahaha!
The last kid he had is about Moses's age by now Wink

It's also rather startling someone could be so warm and cuddly about putting
regular in his twin turbo high output car now, but when someone once
innocently filled his NON-TURBO A6 tank with regular many years ago, he threw
a most unsightly public hissy-fit, and to this day still finds reasons to
bring it up again, as if it mortally wounded his ride.

The worst of it is, he drives like an old woman. It's going to be even more
pathetic to have him riding around in an R8 while dowagers pass him on the
highway like he's standing still Wink ahahahahahahahaha!

/daytripper
'00 s4 6spd
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:36 pm
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:30:27 -0400, daytripper
<day_trippr.RemoveThis@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:

>It's also rather startling someone could be so warm and cuddly about putting
>regular in his twin turbo high output car now, but when someone once
>innocently filled his NON-TURBO A6 tank with regular many years ago, he threw
>a most unsightly public hissy-fit, and to this day still finds reasons to
>bring it up again, as if it mortally wounded his ride.

Actually the fool put 87 octane in because it was the cheapest. There
was 89 pctame avalable, but Bozo chose 87. Unbelievable. He of
course didn't know any better, and in a total of about 2000 miles that
trip, that was the only tank of gas he bought. Nice work if you can
get it.

>
>The worst of it is, he drives like an old woman. It's going to be even more
>pathetic to have him riding around in an R8 while dowagers pass him on the
>highway like he's standing still Wink ahahahahahahahaha!

He's ready to take on anyone who wants to challenge him. Pick a spot:
Ft. Deven runway. NHIS with the Audi Club. You name it, cheapskate.
As a matter of fact, he'll even put his granson in HIS 2000 S4 against
you. I've seen the way you drive. You'll loose.

Better yet, come with me to Poccono in October to drive the R8 and
RS4. Uhhhh, this time, however, you can drive your own car. I
needn't have to worry about how cheap you are. And, no, before you
ask, el cheapo, I won't pay for the school. d;op

Whatja think of my troll, sucker? Bwwaaaahahahahahahaha. Your
performance was anticipated. In fact, it was called for. d;o)
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:17 am
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Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
>
> The type of engine and climate probably matters a lot. The A3 3.2
> doesn't have a turbo, a high compression ratio, or any exotic designs
> that would require high octane gas. Except for that intake comb-over,
> it seems like a pretty boring engine.

Direct injection doesn't count?

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:18 am
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Mick x wrote:
> Do a search on 'Octane' within this group - tons of info......

A lot of it isn't necessarily what I'd call "info".

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:19 am
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
>
> Dave
> (who is wonderin' what the little boy will do when I tell him I put 89
> in my new R8 {when it arrives}) d;o)

I suppose calling him a "little boy" is supposed to make you appear mature?

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