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GTHawkguy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:01 am
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I went out to start my Hwak yesterday, and for the first time ever it
did not start right up. I started to trouble shoot it, I had spark, so
I got the can of starting fluid (eather) sprayed it in the carb and it
fired right up. so I took the fuel filter off, and turned the engine
over and no gasoline came out of the line so I assume that the fuel
pump went bad, I had just filled the tank up last weekend and drove the
car about 20 miles and it was running fine when I got home.

So I guess I have to replace the fuel pump, I was looking at it this
morning and the pump looks to be a real pain to remove, as it looks
like the power steering has to be disconnected and the resiovur has to
be removed.

I am wondering about putting on an electric fuel pump, has any one
done this, is it easier to replace the stock fuel pump or put an
electric one on the car.

My car is a 1963 Gt hawk 289. I run an edlebrock 4 barrel( it is not an
R1)

Bob

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midlant

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:30 am
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Interesting thing there. Either your carb bowl is draining of the pump
quit while you were moving and you got it parked with what was in the
bowl. Great timing!

Karl


GTHawkguy wrote:
> I went out to start my Hwak yesterday, and for the first time ever it
> did not start right up. I started to trouble shoot it, I had spark, so
> I got the can of starting fluid (eather) sprayed it in the carb and it
> fired right up. so I took the fuel filter off, and turned the engine
> over and no gasoline came out of the line so I assume that the fuel
> pump went bad, I had just filled the tank up last weekend and drove the
> car about 20 miles and it was running fine when I got home.
>
> So I guess I have to replace the fuel pump, I was looking at it this
> morning and the pump looks to be a real pain to remove, as it looks
> like the power steering has to be disconnected and the resiovur has to
> be removed.
>
> I am wondering about putting on an electric fuel pump, has any one
> done this, is it easier to replace the stock fuel pump or put an
> electric one on the car.
>
> My car is a 1963 Gt hawk 289. I run an edlebrock 4 barrel( it is not an
> R1)
>
> Bob

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John Poulos

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:24 pm
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You just need to unbolt the pump and move it out of the way, maybe a 1
hour job total.


GTHawkguy wrote:
> I went out to start my Hwak yesterday, and for the first time ever it
> did not start right up. I started to trouble shoot it, I had spark, so
> I got the can of starting fluid (eather) sprayed it in the carb and it
> fired right up. so I took the fuel filter off, and turned the engine
> over and no gasoline came out of the line so I assume that the fuel
> pump went bad, I had just filled the tank up last weekend and drove the
> car about 20 miles and it was running fine when I got home.
>
> So I guess I have to replace the fuel pump, I was looking at it this
> morning and the pump looks to be a real pain to remove, as it looks
> like the power steering has to be disconnected and the resiovur has to
> be removed.
>
> I am wondering about putting on an electric fuel pump, has any one
> done this, is it easier to replace the stock fuel pump or put an
> electric one on the car.
>
> My car is a 1963 Gt hawk 289. I run an edlebrock 4 barrel( it is not an
> R1)
>
> Bob
>


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Grumpy AuContraire

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:30 pm
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I would second that and add that if you DO INSTALL an electric pump, you
remove the mechanical unit and use one of the *chebby* type fuel pump
covers available at any FLAPS. Don't risk the diaphragm failing and
filling up the crankcase with gas...

JT





John Poulos wrote:
>
> You just need to unbolt the pump and move it out of the way, maybe a 1
> hour job total.
>
> GTHawkguy wrote:
> > I went out to start my Hwak yesterday, and for the first time ever it
> > did not start right up. I started to trouble shoot it, I had spark, so
> > I got the can of starting fluid (eather) sprayed it in the carb and it
> > fired right up. so I took the fuel filter off, and turned the engine
> > over and no gasoline came out of the line so I assume that the fuel
> > pump went bad, I had just filled the tank up last weekend and drove the
> > car about 20 miles and it was running fine when I got home.
> >
> > So I guess I have to replace the fuel pump, I was looking at it this
> > morning and the pump looks to be a real pain to remove, as it looks
> > like the power steering has to be disconnected and the resiovur has to
> > be removed.
> >
> > I am wondering about putting on an electric fuel pump, has any one
> > done this, is it easier to replace the stock fuel pump or put an
> > electric one on the car.
> >
> > My car is a 1963 Gt hawk 289. I run an edlebrock 4 barrel( it is not an
> > R1)
> >
> > Bob
> >
>
> --
> JP/Maryland
> Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
> My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
> 64 Daytona HT
> 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black)
> 63 R1 GT Hawk
> 63 Avanti R1
> 63 Avanti R2 (sold)
> 63 Daytona convert
> 62 Lark 2 door
> 60 Hawk
> 60 Lark Convert
> 57 Silver Hawk
> 51 Commander
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The Other Dave

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Since: May 29, 2004
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 6:30 pm
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Also, if you go the electric fuel pump route, it is wise to set up a
pressure switch to sense oil pressure. In the event of an accident, loss of
oil pressure in the engine will cause the fuel pump to shut off, preventing
possible fuel spillage and fire if a fuel line is ruptured. My mechanic
used a switch from a Cadillac, and it bypasses the pressure switch when the
starter is cranking.

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster RemoveThis @GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
news:452009F3.12C3A05F@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>I would second that and add that if you DO INSTALL an electric pump, you
> remove the mechanical unit and use one of the *chebby* type fuel pump
> covers available at any FLAPS. Don't risk the diaphragm failing and
> filling up the crankcase with gas...
>
> JT
>
>
>
>
>
> John Poulos wrote:
>>
>> You just need to unbolt the pump and move it out of the way, maybe a 1
>> hour job total.
>>
>> GTHawkguy wrote:
>> > I went out to start my Hwak yesterday, and for the first time ever it
>> > did not start right up. I started to trouble shoot it, I had spark, so
>> > I got the can of starting fluid (eather) sprayed it in the carb and it
>> > fired right up. so I took the fuel filter off, and turned the engine
>> > over and no gasoline came out of the line so I assume that the fuel
>> > pump went bad, I had just filled the tank up last weekend and drove the
>> > car about 20 miles and it was running fine when I got home.
>> >
>> > So I guess I have to replace the fuel pump, I was looking at it this
>> > morning and the pump looks to be a real pain to remove, as it looks
>> > like the power steering has to be disconnected and the resiovur has to
>> > be removed.
>> >
>> > I am wondering about putting on an electric fuel pump, has any one
>> > done this, is it easier to replace the stock fuel pump or put an
>> > electric one on the car.
>> >
>> > My car is a 1963 Gt hawk 289. I run an edlebrock 4 barrel( it is not an
>> > R1)
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>>
>> --
>> JP/Maryland
>> Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
>> My Ebay items:http://www.stude.com/EBAY/
>> 64 Daytona HT
>> 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk (Black)
>> 63 R1 GT Hawk
>> 63 Avanti R1
>> 63 Avanti R2 (sold)
>> 63 Daytona convert
>> 62 Lark 2 door
>> 60 Hawk
>> 60 Lark Convert
>> 57 Silver Hawk
>> 51 Commander
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roach02

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:33 am
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Just my two cents(about what it's worth). Careful with the elec. pump
pressure. The electric pumps are able to push alot more pressure than
the stock pump. I don't know what other N.G.'S do (insert opinions
here) but I would think an pressure regulator up by the carb would be
smart.
Dont ask how I learned this. Rich
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Big E

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 7:46 am
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Before you blame the fuel pump make sure the distributor is turning
when you crank it.

Ernie R
am not r2 wrote:
> Just my two cents(about what it's worth). Careful with the elec. pump
> pressure. The electric pumps are able to push alot more pressure than
> the stock pump. I don't know what other N.G.'S do (insert opinions
> here) but I would think an pressure regulator up by the carb would be
> smart.
> Dont ask how I learned this. Rich
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Mark Dunning

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:43 pm
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Ok I won't ask how you know.
But did it involve flames?

Mark (always curious) Dunning

"am not r2" <roach02.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Just my two cents(about what it's worth). Careful with the elec. pump
> pressure. The electric pumps are able to push alot more pressure than
> the stock pump. I don't know what other N.G.'S do (insert opinions
> here) but I would think an pressure regulator up by the carb would be
> smart.
> Dont ask how I learned this. Rich
>



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