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GM

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:55 pm
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I have a 1990 560 SEC European Spec ( Japanese Import ) that is absolute
pristine condition.
I havn't been driving it over the winter, except for a good warm up run on a
dry sunny day.
This afternoon I was going to take it out for a drive, started it and left
it running in my drive while I moved another vehicle.
I noticed a puddle behind the right real wheel, and noticed something
spraying under pressure out into this puddle from the underside of the car.
Suspected fuel, and smell test confirmed my suspicion.
In this location what could be the source of the fuel leak? And what would
be the fix?

Any and all help or advice is greatly appreciated.

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roland franzius

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:55 am
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GM wrote:
> I have a 1990 560 SEC European Spec ( Japanese Import ) that is absolute
> pristine condition.
> I havn't been driving it over the winter, except for a good warm up run on a
> dry sunny day.
> This afternoon I was going to take it out for a drive, started it and left
> it running in my drive while I moved another vehicle.
> I noticed a puddle behind the right real wheel, and noticed something
> spraying under pressure out into this puddle from the underside of the car.
> Suspected fuel, and smell test confirmed my suspicion.
> In this location what could be the source of the fuel leak? And what would
> be the fix?
>
> Any and all help or advice is greatly appreciated.

If its spraying with ignition on there is a leak in the presssure line
after the pump. If its leaking ignition off replace all the rubber hoses
between tank and pump.

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Roland Franzius

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:55 am
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"roland franzius" <roland.franzius.TakeThisOut@uos.de> wrote in message
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> GM wrote:
>> I have a 1990 560 SEC European Spec ( Japanese Import ) that is absolute
>> pristine condition.
>> I havn't been driving it over the winter, except for a good warm up run
>> on a dry sunny day.
>> This afternoon I was going to take it out for a drive, started it and
>> left it running in my drive while I moved another vehicle.
>> I noticed a puddle behind the right real wheel, and noticed something
>> spraying under pressure out into this puddle from the underside of the
>> car.
>> Suspected fuel, and smell test confirmed my suspicion.
>> In this location what could be the source of the fuel leak? And what
>> would be the fix?
>>
>> Any and all help or advice is greatly appreciated.
>
> If its spraying with ignition on there is a leak in the presssure line
> after the pump. If its leaking ignition off replace all the rubber hoses
> between tank and pump.
>
> --
>
> Roland Franzius

It is spraying with the ignition on.
So is that a bad fitting, or do I have to replace the entire line?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:55 am
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GM schrieb:
> "roland franzius" <roland.franzius.TakeThisOut@uos.de> wrote in message
> news:f1bue2$g7q$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de...
>> GM wrote:
>>> I have a 1990 560 SEC European Spec ( Japanese Import ) that is absolute
>>> pristine condition.
>>> I havn't been driving it over the winter, except for a good warm up run
>>> on a dry sunny day.
>>> This afternoon I was going to take it out for a drive, started it and
>>> left it running in my drive while I moved another vehicle.
>>> I noticed a puddle behind the right real wheel, and noticed something
>>> spraying under pressure out into this puddle from the underside of the
>>> car.
>>> Suspected fuel, and smell test confirmed my suspicion.
>>> In this location what could be the source of the fuel leak? And what
>>> would be the fix?
>>>
>>> Any and all help or advice is greatly appreciated.
>> If its spraying with ignition on there is a leak in the presssure line
>> after the pump. If its leaking ignition off replace all the rubber hoses
>> between tank and pump.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Roland Franzius
>
> It is spraying with the ignition on.
> So is that a bad fitting, or do I have to replace the entire line?

Most probably corrosion at the double pump/filter connection
aluminium/brass with alu fittings.

For cars older than 15 years I recommend replacing both pump and filter
together with the matalic cage. You get an impression then of the state
of rest of the assembly there.

Depending on the fuel history (lead, unleaded, additives) over the years
in your country it may be nessecary to replace all the rubber parts too.

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Roland Franzius
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:12 am
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That is definitely fuel pump area. Most likely are the fuel hoses... the
rubber one that are leaking. I suggest you let your mechanic replace all the
rubber hoses in that area. Change all copper washers for hard lines and
change your fuel filter while they are at it.

Don't drive the car... let a tow truck take it to shop. The thing is all the
fuel will drain down when replacing the hose so it is not a job to do at
home nor when full tank.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:55 am
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In article <ocl_h.4$Z22.1@newsfe12.lga>, Tiger <tiger0002.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>That is definitely fuel pump area. Most likely are the fuel hoses... the
>rubber one that are leaking. I suggest you let your mechanic replace all the
>rubber hoses in that area. Change all copper washers for hard lines and
>change your fuel filter while they are at it.
>
>Don't drive the car... let a tow truck take it to shop. The thing is all the
>fuel will drain down when replacing the hose so it is not a job to do at
>home nor when full tank.
>

..... Amen to that. Speaking from experience and a consequent
wrecked asphalt driveway and gas up my wazoo.

cheers, guenter
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:06 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:55 pm
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Thank you for all the informative input.


>I have a 1990 560 SEC European Spec ( Japanese Import ) that is absolute
>pristine condition.
> I havn't been driving it over the winter, except for a good warm up run on
> a dry sunny day.
> This afternoon I was going to take it out for a drive, started it and left
> it running in my drive while I moved another vehicle.
> I noticed a puddle behind the right real wheel, and noticed something
> spraying under pressure out into this puddle from the underside of the
> car.
> Suspected fuel, and smell test confirmed my suspicion.
> In this location what could be the source of the fuel leak? And what would
> be the fix?
>
> Any and all help or advice is greatly appreciated.
>
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The Spanish Inquisition

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:15 pm
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Roland Franzius wrote:
> GM schrieb:
>> "roland franzius" <roland.franzius.TakeThisOut@uos.de> wrote in message
>> news:f1bue2$g7q$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de...
>>> GM wrote:
>>>> I have a 1990 560 SEC European Spec ( Japanese Import ) that is
>>>> absolute pristine condition.
>>>> I havn't been driving it over the winter, except for a good warm up
>>>> run on a dry sunny day.
>>>> This afternoon I was going to take it out for a drive, started it
>>>> and left it running in my drive while I moved another vehicle.
>>>> I noticed a puddle behind the right real wheel, and noticed
>>>> something spraying under pressure out into this puddle from the
>>>> underside of the car.
>>>> Suspected fuel, and smell test confirmed my suspicion.
>>>> In this location what could be the source of the fuel leak? And what
>>>> would be the fix?
>>>>
>>>> Any and all help or advice is greatly appreciated.
>>> If its spraying with ignition on there is a leak in the presssure
>>> line after the pump. If its leaking ignition off replace all the
>>> rubber hoses between tank and pump.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Roland Franzius
>>
>> It is spraying with the ignition on.
>> So is that a bad fitting, or do I have to replace the entire line?
>
> Most probably corrosion at the double pump/filter connection
> aluminium/brass with alu fittings.
>
> For cars older than 15 years I recommend replacing both pump and filter
> together with the matalic cage. You get an impression then of the state
> of rest of the assembly there.
>
> Depending on the fuel history (lead, unleaded, additives) over the years
> in your country it may be nessecary to replace all the rubber parts too.

Hmm, makes you wonder what keeps my 20 yo car going. Only rubber
casualties so far are the tires and one broken orthopaedic seat valve.
Who needs that anyway.

Ximinez
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and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....
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