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Simon Dean

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:56 pm
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Im starting to wonder whether my poor fuel economy might just be down to
a fuel leak of some kind.

SR20De engine, Nissan Primera, 1994, 2.0L Auto...

I can drive along, and the fuel guage will be steady. Pull up, stop, go
in to the house. Come out the next morning, start the car and the needle
will have dipped a little.

It's like petrol is being lost when I stop the car.

Certainly every now and again after I've pulled up and switched off, I
can smell petrol.

Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not. But I can't find a petrol leak.

Any thoughts?

Simon

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:59 pm
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amstaffs.DeleteThis@home.com wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:25:57 GMT, AS graced this
> newsgroup with:
>
> >Do you park your car on a level surface or on an incline?
> >
> >Most fuel gauges are affected by the slope of the road you are in. I
> >have seen some that the needle goes down when the car is going up hill
> >(nissan) and some that the needle goes up (renault)
> >
> >In case of a leak, Look for it around the fuel tank or the high pressure
> >hoses, fuel filter in the engine compartment.
> >
> >Do you feel the smell when the tank is full, empty, or regarless?
> >Sometimes gas leaks through the seal between the fuel level sender-fuel
> >pump and the gas tank.
> >
> >Good luck
> >
> >

What I have noticed in my Maxima is that while the car is being driven,
presumably there are more fumes in the tank, fuel is sloshing around,
the guage tends to stay ever so slightly higher. Once I park for the
night and start the car in the AM, the gauge has dropped - however,
after having driving around again the needle rises that delta again.

I usually notice this on my way home - when I park I'll be at a 1/4
tank and remind myself to refuel in the AM.. then first thing in the
AM, I notice the needle is infact a notch to 2 below the 1/4 tank
mark...

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:55 pm
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Do you park your car on a level surface or on an incline?

Most fuel gauges are affected by the slope of the road you are in. I
have seen some that the needle goes down when the car is going up hill
(nissan) and some that the needle goes up (renault)

In case of a leak, Look for it around the fuel tank or the high pressure
hoses, fuel filter in the engine compartment.

Do you feel the smell when the tank is full, empty, or regarless?
Sometimes gas leaks through the seal between the fuel level sender-fuel
pump and the gas tank.

Good luck


Simon Dean wrote:

> Im starting to wonder whether my poor fuel economy might just be down to
> a fuel leak of some kind.
>
> SR20De engine, Nissan Primera, 1994, 2.0L Auto...
>
> I can drive along, and the fuel guage will be steady. Pull up, stop, go
> in to the house. Come out the next morning, start the car and the needle
> will have dipped a little.
>
> It's like petrol is being lost when I stop the car.
>
> Certainly every now and again after I've pulled up and switched off, I
> can smell petrol.
>
> Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not. But I can't find a petrol leak.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Simon
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:55 pm
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:25:57 GMT, AS graced this
newsgroup with:

>Do you park your car on a level surface or on an incline?
>
>Most fuel gauges are affected by the slope of the road you are in. I
>have seen some that the needle goes down when the car is going up hill
>(nissan) and some that the needle goes up (renault)
>
>In case of a leak, Look for it around the fuel tank or the high pressure
>hoses, fuel filter in the engine compartment.
>
>Do you feel the smell when the tank is full, empty, or regarless?
>Sometimes gas leaks through the seal between the fuel level sender-fuel
>pump and the gas tank.
>
>Good luck
>
>

I would think that to actually affect the position of the fuel gauge,
the fuel loss would have to be *significant*. There would be a pretty
sizeable pool of fuel (a gallon or more) to have to be lost for the
gauge to indicate a loss. And if you lost THAT much, you'd see it in
the morning. That much fuel isn't going to evaporate and leave no
trace in that short of a period of time.

I suspect that he has something going on with the float or sensor
rather than actual loss of fuel.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:00 am
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"njmodi" wrote in message

> I usually notice this on my way home - when I park I'll be at a 1/4
> tank and remind myself to refuel in the AM.. then first thing in the
> AM, I notice the needle is infact a notch to 2 below the 1/4 tank
> mark...
>

I have noticed this as well. My theory was that the gasoline expanded in
volume with the warmer temperatures in the afternoon. Then in the cool of
the morning the volume was reduced. I had heard a gas station owner explain
this phenomenon when it came to the quantity of gasoline that went into the
storage tanks. However, I am not sure if the capacity of a car's gas tank is
large enough for this to be measurable by the gas gauge.

-- R Flowers
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Simon Dean

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:33 pm
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Thanks for the reply by the way..

I mostly park on the flat. I seem to have more fuel in my car when I
slope to the right as opposed to the left. It's the difference between
an 1/8th of a tank!

I pulled up last night, had 7/8ths of a tank. Pulled off this morning, I
was down to 3/4. Thought I'd try an experiment. Put in 12.61 Litres of
Petrol today and that had taken me 50 miles! 50 miles I ask!

18 mpg!

EEK!

I was trying to smell out for the gas. I couldn't quite remember whether
it was when full, empty or whatever. I think it's actually when it's
warmer out. Now it's cold, I don't notice it. I'll try and leave the
tank to go empty to test.

Cheers
Simon

AS wrote:
> Do you park your car on a level surface or on an incline?
>
> Most fuel gauges are affected by the slope of the road you are in. I
> have seen some that the needle goes down when the car is going up hill
> (nissan) and some that the needle goes up (renault)
>
> In case of a leak, Look for it around the fuel tank or the high pressure
> hoses, fuel filter in the engine compartment.
>
> Do you feel the smell when the tank is full, empty, or regarless?
> Sometimes gas leaks through the seal between the fuel level sender-fuel
> pump and the gas tank.
>
> Good luck
>
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:33 pm
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Thanks for the reply by the way..

I mostly park on the flat. I seem to have more fuel in my car when I
slope to the right as opposed to the left. It's the difference between
an 1/8th of a tank!

I pulled up last night, had 7/8ths of a tank. Pulled off this morning, I
was down to 3/4. Thought I'd try an experiment. Put in 12.61 Litres of
Petrol today and that had taken me 50 miles! 50 miles I ask!

18 mpg!

EEK!

I was trying to smell out for the gas. I couldn't quite remember whether
it was when full, empty or whatever. I think it's actually when it's
warmer out. Now it's cold, I don't notice it. I'll try and leave the
tank to go empty to test.

Cheers
Simon

AS wrote:
> Do you park your car on a level surface or on an incline?
>
> Most fuel gauges are affected by the slope of the road you are in. I
> have seen some that the needle goes down when the car is going up hill
> (nissan) and some that the needle goes up (renault)
>
> In case of a leak, Look for it around the fuel tank or the high pressure
> hoses, fuel filter in the engine compartment.
>
> Do you feel the smell when the tank is full, empty, or regarless?
> Sometimes gas leaks through the seal between the fuel level sender-fuel
> pump and the gas tank.
>
> Good luck
>
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:33 pm
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Thanks for the reply by the way..

I mostly park on the flat. I seem to have more fuel in my car when I
slope to the right as opposed to the left. It's the difference between
an 1/8th of a tank!

I pulled up last night, had 7/8ths of a tank. Pulled off this morning, I
was down to 3/4. Thought I'd try an experiment. Put in 12.61 Litres of
Petrol today and that had taken me 50 miles! 50 miles I ask!

18 mpg!

EEK!

I was trying to smell out for the gas. I couldn't quite remember whether
it was when full, empty or whatever. I think it's actually when it's
warmer out. Now it's cold, I don't notice it. I'll try and leave the
tank to go empty to test.

Cheers
Simon

AS wrote:
> Do you park your car on a level surface or on an incline?
>
> Most fuel gauges are affected by the slope of the road you are in. I
> have seen some that the needle goes down when the car is going up hill
> (nissan) and some that the needle goes up (renault)
>
> In case of a leak, Look for it around the fuel tank or the high pressure
> hoses, fuel filter in the engine compartment.
>
> Do you feel the smell when the tank is full, empty, or regarless?
> Sometimes gas leaks through the seal between the fuel level sender-fuel
> pump and the gas tank.
>
> Good luck
>
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:34 pm
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amstaffs DeleteThis @home.com wrote:

>
> I would think that to actually affect the position of the fuel gauge,
> the fuel loss would have to be *significant*. There would be a pretty
> sizeable pool of fuel (a gallon or more) to have to be lost for the
> gauge to indicate a loss. And if you lost THAT much, you'd see it in
> the morning. That much fuel isn't going to evaporate and leave no
> trace in that short of a period of time.
>
> I suspect that he has something going on with the float or sensor
> rather than actual loss of fuel.

I think it's something very physical in that 50 miles = 12.61 litres!
ie, 18 mpg...

Cya
Simon
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:34 pm
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amstaffs.DeleteThis@home.com wrote:

>
> I would think that to actually affect the position of the fuel gauge,
> the fuel loss would have to be *significant*. There would be a pretty
> sizeable pool of fuel (a gallon or more) to have to be lost for the
> gauge to indicate a loss. And if you lost THAT much, you'd see it in
> the morning. That much fuel isn't going to evaporate and leave no
> trace in that short of a period of time.
>
> I suspect that he has something going on with the float or sensor
> rather than actual loss of fuel.

I think it's something very physical in that 50 miles = 12.61 litres!
ie, 18 mpg...

Cya
Simon
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:34 pm
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amstaffs.TakeThisOut@home.com wrote:

>
> I would think that to actually affect the position of the fuel gauge,
> the fuel loss would have to be *significant*. There would be a pretty
> sizeable pool of fuel (a gallon or more) to have to be lost for the
> gauge to indicate a loss. And if you lost THAT much, you'd see it in
> the morning. That much fuel isn't going to evaporate and leave no
> trace in that short of a period of time.
>
> I suspect that he has something going on with the float or sensor
> rather than actual loss of fuel.

I think it's something very physical in that 50 miles = 12.61 litres!
ie, 18 mpg...

Cya
Simon
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