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Ford F series loses title as top-selling vehicle in May
Richard Truett
Automotive News
June 3, 2008 - 2:17 pm ET
The Ford F-150 pickup truck has been dethroned as America's favorite vehicle
for the first time since 1991 -- by two Toyota sedans.
According to preliminary sales figures released by automakers, Ford Motor
Co. sold 42,973 F-series trucks in May, while Toyota Motor Corp. sold 52,826
Corollas and 51,291 Camrys.
The last time a car outsold the F series was October 1991.
Jim Farley, Ford group vice president for marketing and communications, said
the F series' loss to Toyota's cars was a "significant development."
"But it's not surprising, given the fuel price," Farley said. "That's just a
sign of the times. I think May has been a watershed month."
Toyota said Corolla sales rose 12.4 percent in May, but were down 9.5
percent for the first five months compared with the same period a year ago.
Camry sales have been flat.
A structural shift
"The all-new Corolla really found its stride this month," Toyota Motor Sales
President Jim Lentz said in a statement. "Launched amid soaring fuel prices
and economic uncertainty, Corolla strikes a sweet spot for buyers seeking
refinement in addition to fuel efficiency and affordability."
Ford CEO Alan Mulally said the fact that cars are outselling trucks is
further evidence that the industry is undergoing a change in consumer
preference.
"We really believe we are seeing a structural shift with the fuel prices
going through the $3.40-to-$3.60" range. It's interesting that a lot of
others are saying the same thing now," Mulally told reporters Monday, June
2, at a dinner in Washington.
"So I think we're seeing a structural shift where, with the prices being
high in the United States, we're seeing exactly what happened in Europe a
number of years ago, where the customers are going to make economic
decisions, and they're going to move toward smaller and medium-sized
vehicles."
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On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 14:54:03 -0400, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3.RemoveThis@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Ford F series loses title as top-selling vehicle in May
>
>Richard Truett
>Automotive News
>June 3, 2008 - 2:17 pm ET
>
>The Ford F-150 pickup truck has been dethroned as America's favorite vehicle
>for the first time since 1991 -- by two Toyota sedans.
>
>According to preliminary sales figures released by automakers, Ford Motor
>Co. sold 42,973 F-series trucks in May, while Toyota Motor Corp. sold 52,826
>Corollas and 51,291 Camrys.
>
>The last time a car outsold the F series was October 1991.
>
>Jim Farley, Ford group vice president for marketing and communications, said
>the F series' loss to Toyota's cars was a "significant development."
>
>"But it's not surprising, given the fuel price," Farley said. "That's just a
>sign of the times. I think May has been a watershed month."
>
>Toyota said Corolla sales rose 12.4 percent in May, but were down 9.5
>percent for the first five months compared with the same period a year ago.
>Camry sales have been flat.
>
>A structural shift
>
>"The all-new Corolla really found its stride this month," Toyota Motor Sales
>President Jim Lentz said in a statement. "Launched amid soaring fuel prices
>and economic uncertainty, Corolla strikes a sweet spot for buyers seeking
>refinement in addition to fuel efficiency and affordability."
>
>Ford CEO Alan Mulally said the fact that cars are outselling trucks is
>further evidence that the industry is undergoing a change in consumer
>preference.
>
>"We really believe we are seeing a structural shift with the fuel prices
>going through the $3.40-to-$3.60" range. It's interesting that a lot of
>others are saying the same thing now," Mulally told reporters Monday, June
>2, at a dinner in Washington.
>
>"So I think we're seeing a structural shift where, with the prices being
>high in the United States, we're seeing exactly what happened in Europe a
>number of years ago, where the customers are going to make economic
>decisions, and they're going to move toward smaller and medium-sized
>vehicles."
>
>Amy Wilson and Andrew Grossman contributed to this report.
>
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who gives a flying fiddlers fart.
lets see them try to haul 15 sheets of plywood home in one of them there jap
sardine cans.
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> Ford F series loses title as top-selling vehicle in May
>
> Richard Truett
> Automotive News
> June 3, 2008 - 2:17 pm ET
>
> The Ford F-150 pickup truck has been dethroned as America's favorite
> vehicle for the first time since 1991 -- by two Toyota sedans.
>
> According to preliminary sales figures released by automakers, Ford Motor
> Co. sold 42,973 F-series trucks in May, while Toyota Motor Corp. sold
> 52,826 Corollas and 51,291 Camrys.
>
> The last time a car outsold the F series was October 1991.
>
> Jim Farley, Ford group vice president for marketing and communications,
> said the F series' loss to Toyota's cars was a "significant development."
>
> "But it's not surprising, given the fuel price," Farley said. "That's just
> a sign of the times. I think May has been a watershed month."
>
> Toyota said Corolla sales rose 12.4 percent in May, but were down 9.5
> percent for the first five months compared with the same period a year
> ago. Camry sales have been flat.
>
> A structural shift
>
> "The all-new Corolla really found its stride this month," Toyota Motor
> Sales President Jim Lentz said in a statement. "Launched amid soaring fuel
> prices and economic uncertainty, Corolla strikes a sweet spot for buyers
> seeking refinement in addition to fuel efficiency and affordability."
>
> Ford CEO Alan Mulally said the fact that cars are outselling trucks is
> further evidence that the industry is undergoing a change in consumer
> preference.
>
> "We really believe we are seeing a structural shift with the fuel prices
> going through the $3.40-to-$3.60" range. It's interesting that a lot of
> others are saying the same thing now," Mulally told reporters Monday, June
> 2, at a dinner in Washington.
>
> "So I think we're seeing a structural shift where, with the prices being
> high in the United States, we're seeing exactly what happened in Europe a
> number of years ago, where the customers are going to make economic
> decisions, and they're going to move toward smaller and medium-sized
> vehicles."
>
> Amy Wilson and Andrew Grossman contributed to this report.
> >> Stay informed about: Ford F series loses title as top-selling vehicle in May |
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I wonder why Toyota is not listing the sales figures for the Tundra?
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> Ford F series loses title as top-selling vehicle in May
>
> Richard Truett
> Automotive News
> June 3, 2008 - 2:17 pm ET
>
> The Ford F-150 pickup truck has been dethroned as America's favorite
> vehicle for the first time since 1991 -- by two Toyota sedans.
>
> According to preliminary sales figures released by automakers, Ford Motor
> Co. sold 42,973 F-series trucks in May, while Toyota Motor Corp. sold
> 52,826 Corollas and 51,291 Camrys.
>
> The last time a car outsold the F series was October 1991.
>
> Jim Farley, Ford group vice president for marketing and communications,
> said the F series' loss to Toyota's cars was a "significant development."
>
> "But it's not surprising, given the fuel price," Farley said. "That's just
> a sign of the times. I think May has been a watershed month."
>
> Toyota said Corolla sales rose 12.4 percent in May, but were down 9.5
> percent for the first five months compared with the same period a year
> ago. Camry sales have been flat.
>
> A structural shift
>
> "The all-new Corolla really found its stride this month," Toyota Motor
> Sales President Jim Lentz said in a statement. "Launched amid soaring fuel
> prices and economic uncertainty, Corolla strikes a sweet spot for buyers
> seeking refinement in addition to fuel efficiency and affordability."
>
> Ford CEO Alan Mulally said the fact that cars are outselling trucks is
> further evidence that the industry is undergoing a change in consumer
> preference.
>
> "We really believe we are seeing a structural shift with the fuel prices
> going through the $3.40-to-$3.60" range. It's interesting that a lot of
> others are saying the same thing now," Mulally told reporters Monday, June
> 2, at a dinner in Washington.
>
> "So I think we're seeing a structural shift where, with the prices being
> high in the United States, we're seeing exactly what happened in Europe a
> number of years ago, where the customers are going to make economic
> decisions, and they're going to move toward smaller and medium-sized
> vehicles."
>
> Amy Wilson and Andrew Grossman contributed to this report.
> >> Stay informed about: Ford F series loses title as top-selling vehicle in May |
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The 1991 date is for sales during ONE month back then when Toyota sold more
as well. By the end of the model year is was a far different number.
Ford has had the number one spot in ANNUAL sales, the one that counts, for
thirty one years, since 1976
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> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 14:54:03 -0400, "C. E. White"
> <cewhite3.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Ford F series loses title as top-selling vehicle in May
>>
>>Richard Truett
>>Automotive News
>>June 3, 2008 - 2:17 pm ET
>>
>>The Ford F-150 pickup truck has been dethroned as America's favorite
>>vehicle
>>for the first time since 1991 -- by two Toyota sedans.
>>
>>According to preliminary sales figures released by automakers, Ford Motor
>>Co. sold 42,973 F-series trucks in May, while Toyota Motor Corp. sold
>>52,826
>>Corollas and 51,291 Camrys.
>>
>>The last time a car outsold the F series was October 1991.
>>
>>Jim Farley, Ford group vice president for marketing and communications,
>>said
>>the F series' loss to Toyota's cars was a "significant development."
>>
>>"But it's not surprising, given the fuel price," Farley said. "That's just
>>a
>>sign of the times. I think May has been a watershed month."
>>
>>Toyota said Corolla sales rose 12.4 percent in May, but were down 9.5
>>percent for the first five months compared with the same period a year
>>ago.
>>Camry sales have been flat.
>>
>>A structural shift
>>
>>"The all-new Corolla really found its stride this month," Toyota Motor
>>Sales
>>President Jim Lentz said in a statement. "Launched amid soaring fuel
>>prices
>>and economic uncertainty, Corolla strikes a sweet spot for buyers seeking
>>refinement in addition to fuel efficiency and affordability."
>>
>>Ford CEO Alan Mulally said the fact that cars are outselling trucks is
>>further evidence that the industry is undergoing a change in consumer
>>preference.
>>
>>"We really believe we are seeing a structural shift with the fuel prices
>>going through the $3.40-to-$3.60" range. It's interesting that a lot of
>>others are saying the same thing now," Mulally told reporters Monday, June
>>2, at a dinner in Washington.
>>
>>"So I think we're seeing a structural shift where, with the prices being
>>high in the United States, we're seeing exactly what happened in Europe a
>>number of years ago, where the customers are going to make economic
>>decisions, and they're going to move toward smaller and medium-sized
>>vehicles."
>>
>>Amy Wilson and Andrew Grossman contributed to this report.
>>
>
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>I wonder why Toyota is not listing the sales figures for the Tundra?
They have. The sales for the Tundra are in the toliet as well. But at least
for May, the F150 was outsold by numerous cars (Corolla, Camry, Accord,
Civic). Interestingly, the Camry sales were flat. Corollas actually outsold
Canrys in May (so did Civics). Totyotas sales were down a little under 5%
for May even though car sales were up slightly.
Actually F150 sales held up pretty well compared to other large trucks. From
Automotive News:
"Large trucks are not selling. The Ford F series lost 30.6 percent.
Chevrolet Suburbans, Tahoes and Silverados are all down 40 percent or more.
The Toyota Tundra is off 31.5 percent and Nissan's Titan plunged 55.8
percent."
Ed
> "C. E. White" <cewhite3 RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>> Ford F series loses title as top-selling vehicle in May
>>
>> Richard Truett
>> Automotive News
>> June 3, 2008 - 2:17 pm ET
>>
>> The Ford F-150 pickup truck has been dethroned as America's favorite
>> vehicle for the first time since 1991 -- by two Toyota sedans.
>>
>> According to preliminary sales figures released by automakers, Ford Motor
>> Co. sold 42,973 F-series trucks in May, while Toyota Motor Corp. sold
>> 52,826 Corollas and 51,291 Camrys.
>>
>> The last time a car outsold the F series was October 1991.
>>
>> Jim Farley, Ford group vice president for marketing and communications,
>> said the F series' loss to Toyota's cars was a "significant development."
>>
>> "But it's not surprising, given the fuel price," Farley said. "That's
>> just a sign of the times. I think May has been a watershed month."
>>
>> Toyota said Corolla sales rose 12.4 percent in May, but were down 9.5
>> percent for the first five months compared with the same period a year
>> ago. Camry sales have been flat.
>>
>> A structural shift
>>
>> "The all-new Corolla really found its stride this month," Toyota Motor
>> Sales President Jim Lentz said in a statement. "Launched amid soaring
>> fuel prices and economic uncertainty, Corolla strikes a sweet spot for
>> buyers seeking refinement in addition to fuel efficiency and
>> affordability."
>>
>> Ford CEO Alan Mulally said the fact that cars are outselling trucks is
>> further evidence that the industry is undergoing a change in consumer
>> preference.
>>
>> "We really believe we are seeing a structural shift with the fuel prices
>> going through the $3.40-to-$3.60" range. It's interesting that a lot of
>> others are saying the same thing now," Mulally told reporters Monday,
>> June 2, at a dinner in Washington.
>>
>> "So I think we're seeing a structural shift where, with the prices being
>> high in the United States, we're seeing exactly what happened in Europe a
>> number of years ago, where the customers are going to make economic
>> decisions, and they're going to move toward smaller and medium-sized
>> vehicles."
>>
>> Amy Wilson and Andrew Grossman contributed to this report.
>>
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Of course. The new F-150 is butt ugly!!
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> Ford F series loses title as top-selling vehicle in May
>
> Richard Truett
> Automotive News
> June 3, 2008 - 2:17 pm ET
>
> The Ford F-150 pickup truck has been dethroned as America's favorite
> vehicle for the first time since 1991 -- by two Toyota sedans.
>
> According to preliminary sales figures released by automakers, Ford Motor
> Co. sold 42,973 F-series trucks in May, while Toyota Motor Corp. sold
> 52,826 Corollas and 51,291 Camrys.
>
> The last time a car outsold the F series was October 1991.
>
> Jim Farley, Ford group vice president for marketing and communications,
> said the F series' loss to Toyota's cars was a "significant development."
>
> "But it's not surprising, given the fuel price," Farley said. "That's just
> a sign of the times. I think May has been a watershed month."
>
> Toyota said Corolla sales rose 12.4 percent in May, but were down 9.5
> percent for the first five months compared with the same period a year
> ago. Camry sales have been flat.
>
> A structural shift
>
> "The all-new Corolla really found its stride this month," Toyota Motor
> Sales President Jim Lentz said in a statement. "Launched amid soaring fuel
> prices and economic uncertainty, Corolla strikes a sweet spot for buyers
> seeking refinement in addition to fuel efficiency and affordability."
>
> Ford CEO Alan Mulally said the fact that cars are outselling trucks is
> further evidence that the industry is undergoing a change in consumer
> preference.
>
> "We really believe we are seeing a structural shift with the fuel prices
> going through the $3.40-to-$3.60" range. It's interesting that a lot of
> others are saying the same thing now," Mulally told reporters Monday, June
> 2, at a dinner in Washington.
>
> "So I think we're seeing a structural shift where, with the prices being
> high in the United States, we're seeing exactly what happened in Europe a
> number of years ago, where the customers are going to make economic
> decisions, and they're going to move toward smaller and medium-sized
> vehicles."
>
> Amy Wilson and Andrew Grossman contributed to this report.
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> "Mike hunt" <mikehunt22 DeleteThis @lycos.com> wrote in message
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>>I wonder why Toyota is not listing the sales figures for the Tundra?
>
> Toyota has modestly tried to get their name out there in the truck
> industry. The problem of course has been egotistical. They have had to get
> their hands in the mix as a third party... and the pissing contest between
> Chevy and Ford owners is literally on their back window.
>
> With that said, Tundra has made some strides at gaining in the market as
> more people shed the xenephobic lifestyle.
>
> Here are some links
>
> http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/01/16/toyota-tundra-sales-outgrowin...ord-gm-
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Tundra
The monster Turdra is perhaps the worst thought out investment Toyota has
made in 50 years. They have only been able to move them by loading them up
with incentives. It is a fourth rate product in a shrinking market. Even
before the recent run up in fuel prices Toyota admitted they were going to
miss their announced target for sales by tens of thousands of units. It is a
poorly designed, oversized piece of junk. Everyone associated with the
project from the planning staff to the engineers should be ashamed. It is
the Edsel of the new millennia. What a waste of several billion dollars.
I'll bet the Toyota management in Japan wishes they could send some Ninjas
over to clean out the idiots who convinced them to turn a reasonably sized
truck into the bloated gas sucking pig they are stuck trying to sell with
gas at $4. Oh well, at least they still have the Tacoma. How long before
they start importing the smaller trucks they sell in other markets? Maybe
they can get Ford to slap some Toyota labels on Rangers......
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>The monster Turdra is perhaps the worst thought out investment Toyota has
>made in 50 years.
Unfortunately, it's a nice truck at a bad time.
>I'll bet the Toyota management in Japan wishes they could send some Ninjas
>over to clean out the idiots who convinced them to turn a reasonably sized
>truck into the bloated gas sucking pig they are stuck trying to sell with
>gas at $4. Oh well, at least they still have the Tacoma.
The "gas sucking pig" Tundra gets ~ _1_ MPG less than my 4.0L Tacoma
in EPA tests, with greater capability.
>How long before
>they start importing the smaller trucks they sell in other markets?
Like the Hilux, A.K.A the current Tacoma?
There are no "smaller" trucks sold to other markets. The only real
difference is that the Hilux is available with a 3 litre turbo diesel.
I was in Iceland a short time ago, and the Euro-spec Toyota trucks I
saw there, along with the Nissan Patrol, etc... looked an awful lot
like the North American spec stuff, only with a small diesel
powerplant.
If you don't believe me, Google out the "Top Gear" episode where they
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>>I wonder why Toyota is not listing the sales figures for the Tundra?
>
> They have. The sales for the Tundra are in the toliet as well. But at
> least for May, the F150 was outsold by numerous cars (Corolla, Camry,
> Accord, Civic). Interestingly, the Camry sales were flat. Corollas
> actually outsold Canrys in May (so did Civics). Totyotas sales were down a
> little under 5% for May even though car sales were up slightly.
>
> Actually F150 sales held up pretty well compared to other large trucks.
> From Automotive News:
>
> "Large trucks are not selling. The Ford F series lost 30.6 percent.
> Chevrolet Suburbans, Tahoes and Silverados are all down 40 percent or
> more. The Toyota Tundra is off 31.5 percent and Nissan's Titan plunged
> 55.8 percent."
>
> Ed
That's par for the course with the drop in such low mpg vehicles.
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"C. E. White" <cewhite3.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> The monster Turdra is perhaps the worst thought out investment Toyota has
> made in 50 years. They have only been able to move them by loading them up
> with incentives.
All vehicle companies load up vehicles with incentives.
The Tundra has done just fine in a market not intended for foreign
companies.
> It is a fourth rate product in a shrinking market.
Which is why Toyota has not put as much investment into trucks. Yet they
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:23 pm
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"Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <One187.DeleteThis@NoWhere.Com> wrote in message
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> "C. E. White" <cewhite3.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:44KdnZBCO7QoKdjVnZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@earthlink.com...
>> The monster Turdra is perhaps the worst thought out investment Toyota has
>> made in 50 years. They have only been able to move them by loading them
>> up with incentives.
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> All vehicle companies load up vehicles with incentives.
Tundra incentives - up to $4500 and 0% interest
F150 incentives - up to $3500 or 0% interest
Silverado incentives - up to $1500 or 2.9% interest
> The Tundra has done just fine in a market not intended for foreign
> companies.
LOL...it has been an unmitigated disaster. Only a Toyota zealot would think
otherwise. Turdra commercial runs almost continuosuly around here, they have
more incentives on them than any other truck, and still they can't meet the
understated targets they announced when the truck was introduced. In the
real world that is called screwing the pooch. In the Toyota zealot world it
is called "doing just fine." A few more brilliant moves like that and
Hyundai will be replacing Toyota as the worlds largest vehicle manufacturer.
>> It is a fourth rate product in a shrinking market.
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> Which is why Toyota has not put as much investment into trucks. Yet they
> still managed to gain some money in the market.
What planet to you live on? Billion of dollars down the drain. The biggest
thing they did was drive Nissan out of the full size truck market.
Ed >> Stay informed about: Ford F series loses title as top-selling vehicle in May |
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