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michaeld121

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:42 pm
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I've got a 2004 Ford Focus with 22,000 miles on the clock. When
moving off from stationery (whether in 1st or reverse) I get a noise
when coming off the clutch. The noise is hard to describe - it's like
a groaning / whining sound.

It's been making the noise for about 2 yrs or so, but is getting
worse. It might be worse when the car's cold.

A local garage suggested thrust bearings - does that sound right? If
so - does that mean a new clutch? Also - the noise was first noticed
by Ford when it was under warranty - but wasn't properly diagnosed -
I'm assuming Ford won't be interested as it's over a year out of
warranty.

Michael

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:31 pm
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In article <5eb2673d-55a1-4bfb-9b78-00d4558a1460
@a9g2000prl.googlegroups.com>, says...
>
> I've got a 2004 Ford Focus with 22,000 miles on the clock. When
> moving off from stationery (whether in 1st or reverse) I get a noise
> when coming off the clutch. The noise is hard to describe - it's like
> a groaning / whining sound.
>
> It's been making the noise for about 2 yrs or so, but is getting
> worse. It might be worse when the car's cold.
>
> A local garage suggested thrust bearings - does that sound right? If
> so - does that mean a new clutch? Also - the noise was first noticed
> by Ford when it was under warranty - but wasn't properly diagnosed -
> I'm assuming Ford won't be interested as it's over a year out of
> warranty.
>
Yeah...thrust bearing would be my first bet followed by input shaft
bearing if you're unlucky.

Ford won't be interested anyway as a clutch is a consumable.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:59 pm
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<michaeld121.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5eb2673d-55a1-4bfb-9b78-00d4558a1460@a9g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>
> I've got a 2004 Ford Focus with 22,000 miles on the clock. When
> moving off from stationery (whether in 1st or reverse) I get a noise
> when coming off the clutch. The noise is hard to describe - it's like
> a groaning / whining sound.
>
> It's been making the noise for about 2 yrs or so, but is getting
> worse. It might be worse when the car's cold.
>
> A local garage suggested thrust bearings - does that sound right? If
> so - does that mean a new clutch? Also - the noise was first noticed
> by Ford when it was under warranty - but wasn't properly diagnosed -
> I'm assuming Ford won't be interested as it's over a year out of
> warranty.
>

But I'd have a go at them, given that the problem was reported before it was
out of warranty.

Rob Graham
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:23 am
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In article <dbKdnbdHRMcrWJ7VnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d.RemoveThis@bt.com>, Rob graham
says...


>
> But I'd have a go at them, given that the problem was reported before it was
> out of warranty.

Clutches are consumables the same as brake pads and filters.


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:59 pm
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"Conor" <conor_turton.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <dbKdnbdHRMcrWJ7VnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d.TakeThisOut@bt.com>, Rob graham
> says...
>
>
>>
>> But I'd have a go at them, given that the problem was reported before it
>> was
>> out of warranty.
>
> Clutches are consumables the same as brake pads and filters.
>
>
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> looking good either. - Scott Adams

Engine mount - flexible exhaust section?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:03 pm
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"Conor" <conor_turton RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <dbKdnbdHRMcrWJ7VnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d RemoveThis @bt.com>, Rob graham
> says...
>
>
>>
>> But I'd have a go at them, given that the problem was reported before it
>> was
>> out of warranty.
>
> Clutches are consumables the same as brake pads and filters.

Release bearing isn't though, as it's part of a concentric slave cylinder on
Focuses from what I remember.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:26 pm
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>>>
>>> But I'd have a go at them, given that the problem was reported before it

>>> was
>>> out of warranty.
>>
>> Clutches are consumables the same as brake pads and filters.

Counsumables yes, but that does not mean they are never covered under warranty. You have to
seperate failure due to wear from faiure due to defect When it's clear the failure is due to
defect, consumables can be replaced/repaired under warranty. Case in point..I had FORD
replace brake pads and rotor under warranty when a pad prematurely broke off causing the
rotor to be gouged beyond resurfacing. They replaced the pads and rotor and labor was
included.

Regards,

Frank


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:44 am
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On 14 Apr, 21:31, Conor <conor_tur....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah...thrust bearing would be my first bet followed by input shaft
> bearing if you're unlucky.

Pls forgive my ignorance - if it's the thrust bearing does that mean a
new clutch, or is it separate? (I did a quick google but couldn't
quite work it out).

Thanks,

Michael
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:17 pm
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michaeld121 DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> On 14 Apr, 21:31, Conor <conor_tur... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah...thrust bearing would be my first bet followed by input shaft
>> bearing if you're unlucky.
>
> Pls forgive my ignorance - if it's the thrust bearing does that mean a
> new clutch, or is it separate? (I did a quick google but couldn't
> quite work it out).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael

the thrust bearing is a seperate bit to the clutch itself, but it is the
same work to get at, if it is the type with a thrust bearing built onto the
release cylinder (sounds like it is) then it is an expensive part (about a
100 or more) the labour to change it will be about 300 at a guess. it would
be usual to change the clutch at the same time unless it was perfect.

I would be surprised if it was the thrust bearing from your description. my
first query would be the clutch center plate cushion drive and (if it has
one) the dual mass flywheel
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:46 pm
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Mrcheerful wrote:
> michaeld121 DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
>> On 14 Apr, 21:31, Conor <conor_tur... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah...thrust bearing would be my first bet followed by input shaft
>>> bearing if you're unlucky.
>> Pls forgive my ignorance - if it's the thrust bearing does that mean a
>> new clutch, or is it separate? (I did a quick google but couldn't
>> quite work it out).
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Michael
>
> the thrust bearing is a seperate bit to the clutch itself, but it is the
> same work to get at, if it is the type with a thrust bearing built onto the
> release cylinder (sounds like it is) then it is an expensive part (about a
> 100 or more) the labour to change it will be about 300 at a guess. it would
> be usual to change the clutch at the same time unless it was perfect.
>
> I would be surprised if it was the thrust bearing from your description. my
> first query would be the clutch center plate cushion drive and (if it has
> one) the dual mass flywheel

To answer the DMF question... is the car a petrol or a diesel, and what
engine size is it?

D
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