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bob urz

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:43 am
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I just got this 97 taurus as a fixer upper and put a 3.0 in it.
(head gaskets blown on its motor). Got the motor in and running.
Its running a little hot for my tastes. Fans are running.

I am going to pull the water pump and check for impeller rotting.
If the pump is ok or changed, that leaves the radiator and flushing.

I have the ford PDF on this "brown coolant".
How do you guys normally flush out the cooling systems on one
of these and what chemical flush do you use?

Is there a updated water pump for these? If so, are the aftermarket
units updated or changed? i saw some bit on line about a disk or
something on the impeller on a newer pump.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:43 am
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On Aug 24, 11:43 am, bob urz wrote:

>
> Is there a updated water pump for these? If so, are the aftermarket
> units updated or changed? i saw some bit on line about a disk or
> something on the impeller on a newer pump.
>

Any particular reason the head gasket went out? These engines are not
known for that.
I normally don't recommend brand names, but get an Airtex water pump.
If nobody local carries them, get one from Northern Auto out of Sioux
City, Iowa. (Google the company)

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Rick

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:10 pm
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"bob urz" wrote in message
> I just got this 97 taurus as a fixer upper and put a 3.0 in it.
> (head gaskets blown on its motor). Got the motor in and running.
> Its running a little hot for my tastes. Fans are running.
>
> I am going to pull the water pump and check for impeller rotting.
> If the pump is ok or changed, that leaves the radiator and flushing.
>
> I have the ford PDF on this "brown coolant".
> How do you guys normally flush out the cooling systems on one
> of these and what chemical flush do you use?
>
> Is there a updated water pump for these? If so, are the aftermarket
> units updated or changed? i saw some bit on line about a disk or
> something on the impeller on a newer pump.
>
> bob

The updated pump has a shrouded impeller. Can't say if aftermarket ones have it.
Don't forget the bypass circuit and degas restrictor installation if not already done.
Flush procedure is documented in Article 01-11-6. Is that the one you have?
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SC Tom

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:49 pm
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"Kruse" wrote in message

> On Aug 24, 11:43 am, bob urz wrote:
>
>>
>> Is there a updated water pump for these? If so, are the aftermarket
>> units updated or changed? i saw some bit on line about a disk or
>> something on the impeller on a newer pump.
>>
>
> Any particular reason the head gasket went out? These engines are not
> known for that.
> I normally don't recommend brand names, but get an Airtex water pump.
> If nobody local carries them, get one from Northern Auto out of Sioux
> City, Iowa. (Google the company)

RockAuto.com carries them for $27.79, but also lists it as "discontinued." I
wonder if just by them, or by everyone, and why?
Good luck!

SC Tom
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bob urz

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:10 am
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SC Tom wrote:

> "Kruse" wrote in message
>
>
>>On Aug 24, 11:43 am, bob urz wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Is there a updated water pump for these? If so, are the aftermarket
>>>units updated or changed? i saw some bit on line about a disk or
>>>something on the impeller on a newer pump.
>>>
>>
>>Any particular reason the head gasket went out? These engines are not
>>known for that.
>>I normally don't recommend brand names, but get an Airtex water pump.
>>If nobody local carries them, get one from Northern Auto out of Sioux
>>City, Iowa. (Google the company)
>
>
> RockAuto.com carries them for $27.79, but also lists it as "discontinued." I
> wonder if just by them, or by everyone, and why?
> Good luck!
>
> SC Tom
>
>
For some reason about 95/96, ford changed the 3.0 some and in the
process caused internal corrosion of the cooling system. This seemed
to lead to head gasket failure in the otherwise rock solid 3.0 vulcan.
The motor i pulled out of the car did not have a cracked head, but
when trying to start it, you could see air blowing into the coolant
reservoirs.

bob



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bob urz

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:22 am
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Rick wrote:

> "bob urz" wrote in message
>
>>I just got this 97 taurus as a fixer upper and put a 3.0 in it.
>>(head gaskets blown on its motor). Got the motor in and running.
>>Its running a little hot for my tastes. Fans are running.
>>
>>I am going to pull the water pump and check for impeller rotting.
>>If the pump is ok or changed, that leaves the radiator and flushing.
>>
>>I have the ford PDF on this "brown coolant".
>>How do you guys normally flush out the cooling systems on one
>>of these and what chemical flush do you use?
>>
>>Is there a updated water pump for these? If so, are the aftermarket
>>units updated or changed? i saw some bit on line about a disk or
>>something on the impeller on a newer pump.
>>
>>bob
>
>
> The updated pump has a shrouded impeller. Can't say if aftermarket ones have it.
> Don't forget the bypass circuit and degas restrictor installation if not already done.
> Flush procedure is documented in Article 01-11-6. Is that the one you have?
>
>
Its got the bypass hose around the heater core.
Not sure about the degass restrictor. if its a metal insert in the small
pipe it has it.

I have the flush procedure. The engine came out of a running 97 with
a bad trannie. put it in, and it seems to jump up 3/4+ on the heat
gauge to fast for my tastes. Pulled the water pump off today and
the impellers are intact. I am going to replace it new anyway. there
was some corrosion on the outside of the pump housing and i am not sure
if it was weeping, or it was just fluid from the coolant tank bubbling
over. I also shot water and air through the radiator core in case it was
plugged externally. It also has new thermostat with giggle valve in it.


What type of flush do you recommend? Any tips on what else to check or do?

bob


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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:38 am
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On Aug 24, 11:43 am, bob urz wrote:
> I just got this 97 taurus as a fixer upper and put a 3.0 in it.
> (head gaskets blown on its motor). Got the motor in and running.
> Its running a little hot for my tastes. Fans are running.
>
> I am going to pull the water pump and check for impeller rotting.
> If the pump is ok or changed, that leaves the radiator and flushing.
>
> I have the ford PDF on this "brown coolant".
> How do you guys normally flush out the cooling systems on one
> of these and what chemical flush do you use?
>
> Is there a updated water pump for these? If so, are the aftermarket
> units updated or changed? i saw some bit on line about a disk or
> something on the impeller on a newer pump.
>
> bob
>
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A car is too big to flush. Most people just have them towed to a junk-
yard. I hear that cars are going for around $500 at junkyards, just
for the metal.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:56 pm
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we dont flush these newer radiators anymore,just replace them . it was
a waste of time flushing them . its possible the engine you put i has a
problem . ive seen some of these with the waterpump impeller ccorroded
away . if you run a wire from the radiator metal to the neg batter post
it will stop this from happining. electrolasis.

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