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Since: Jan 11, 2008 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:12 pm
Post subject: Fight Back Against Big Oil Archived from groups: alt>autos>ford>focus (more info?)
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Fight Back Against Big Oil
By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, Apr 24, 2008
So now we have the presidential candidates running around telling
voters that they will help solve high gas prices. Well, if you believe that,
you'll believe that Hugo Chavez drives a Yugo. It's just bull.
Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are calling for "investigations"
into "price gouging" by American oil companies. Good. There's plenty of
price manipulation going on and, under Presidents Bush and Clinton, little
federal oversight. If a big oil company wants to tighten supply, for
example, it's a snap. Just slow down the refinery process by ordering some
extra "maintenance" or something.
But who is going to investigate Senators Obama and Clinton over their
opposition to oil drilling? The Democratic Party has consistently opposed
new drilling, and nuclear energy as well. Even the dedicated liberal
governments in France and Sweden bought into nuclear. But not the American
left, no way.
On the Republican side, President Bush has done absolutely nothing
about rising gas prices, which is part of the reason is approval rating is
approaching 20%. He blames the Democrats. Fine. But the President should be
telling all Americans to cut back their gas consumption by 15%. He should be
urging us to use less gas. That would at least cut into big oil's record
profit margins.
Senator John McCain proposes a gas tax "holiday" this summer. True,
that would save the folks a few bucks, but it would also add to the massive
spending deficit. The government better start balancing the budget soon
before Häagen-Dazs becomes more valuable than the U.S. currency.
The sad truth is that both political parties have sold out the folks.
For decades, economists knew China and India were industrializing and those
countries would demand much greater amounts of oil. Everybody knew that OPEC
could slow down production and gouge the world if it could and, of course,
now it can.
But if Americans would get angry and begin punishing the oil bandits,
then prices would drop. However, we are often a selfish people. We want
those gas-guzzling Hummers and SUVs, and we're paying a big price for that
above and beyond the sticker. >> Stay informed about: Fight Back Against Big Oil |
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Since: Sep 23, 2004 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Fight Back Against Big Oil [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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1 Litre of Diesel now costs £1.20 (about $2.5) here in the UK.
"K2NNJ" <k2nnj DeleteThis @nospam.optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Fight Back Against Big Oil
> By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
> Thursday, Apr 24, 2008
>
> So now we have the presidential candidates running around telling
> voters that they will help solve high gas prices. Well, if you believe
> that, you'll believe that Hugo Chavez drives a Yugo. It's just bull.
>
> Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are calling for
> "investigations" into "price gouging" by American oil companies. Good.
> There's plenty of price manipulation going on and, under Presidents Bush
> and Clinton, little federal oversight. If a big oil company wants to
> tighten supply, for example, it's a snap. Just slow down the refinery
> process by ordering some extra "maintenance" or something.
>
> But who is going to investigate Senators Obama and Clinton over their
> opposition to oil drilling? The Democratic Party has consistently opposed
> new drilling, and nuclear energy as well. Even the dedicated liberal
> governments in France and Sweden bought into nuclear. But not the American
> left, no way.
>
> On the Republican side, President Bush has done absolutely nothing
> about rising gas prices, which is part of the reason is approval rating is
> approaching 20%. He blames the Democrats. Fine. But the President should
> be telling all Americans to cut back their gas consumption by 15%. He
> should be urging us to use less gas. That would at least cut into big
> oil's record profit margins.
>
> Senator John McCain proposes a gas tax "holiday" this summer. True,
> that would save the folks a few bucks, but it would also add to the
> massive spending deficit. The government better start balancing the budget
> soon before Häagen-Dazs becomes more valuable than the U.S. currency.
>
> The sad truth is that both political parties have sold out the folks.
> For decades, economists knew China and India were industrializing and
> those countries would demand much greater amounts of oil. Everybody knew
> that OPEC could slow down production and gouge the world if it could and,
> of course, now it can.
>
> But if Americans would get angry and begin punishing the oil bandits,
> then prices would drop. However, we are often a selfish people. We want
> those gas-guzzling Hummers and SUVs, and we're paying a big price for that
> above and beyond the sticker.
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Fight Back Against Big Oil |
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Since: Dec 03, 2006 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Fight Back Against Big Oil [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Out here in the Canadian prairies, a liter of gas is around $1.25 a liter
and diesel is about the same. This equates to about $4.75 a US gallon.
Since when does any government care about the working people, they are
bought and paid for by big business, always was always will be - no matter
which party!
I wonder how much tax those big multinational oil company's pay on their
billions and billions in profits. I bet you and me pay more than they do!
The ultimate energy source will be nuclear power but that is still down the
road. Big business cannot make enough money out of it or will not get
enough handouts from the government currently and probably not "politically
correct" either.
"Mike" <notavailable.TakeThisOut@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:HIOdnRgZ8P9M74nVnZ2dnUVZ8qWhnZ2d@bt.com...
1 Litre of Diesel now costs £1.20 (about $2.5) here in the UK.
"K2NNJ" <k2nnj.TakeThisOut@nospam.optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4812819e$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> Fight Back Against Big Oil
> By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
> Thursday, Apr 24, 2008
>
> So now we have the presidential candidates running around telling
> voters that they will help solve high gas prices. Well, if you believe
> that, you'll believe that Hugo Chavez drives a Yugo. It's just bull.
>
> Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are calling for
> "investigations" into "price gouging" by American oil companies. Good.
> There's plenty of price manipulation going on and, under Presidents Bush
> and Clinton, little federal oversight. If a big oil company wants to
> tighten supply, for example, it's a snap. Just slow down the refinery
> process by ordering some extra "maintenance" or something.
>
> But who is going to investigate Senators Obama and Clinton over their
> opposition to oil drilling? The Democratic Party has consistently opposed
> new drilling, and nuclear energy as well. Even the dedicated liberal
> governments in France and Sweden bought into nuclear. But not the American
> left, no way.
>
> On the Republican side, President Bush has done absolutely nothing
> about rising gas prices, which is part of the reason is approval rating is
> approaching 20%. He blames the Democrats. Fine. But the President should
> be telling all Americans to cut back their gas consumption by 15%. He
> should be urging us to use less gas. That would at least cut into big
> oil's record profit margins.
>
> Senator John McCain proposes a gas tax "holiday" this summer. True,
> that would save the folks a few bucks, but it would also add to the
> massive spending deficit. The government better start balancing the budget
> soon before Häagen-Dazs becomes more valuable than the U.S. currency.
>
> The sad truth is that both political parties have sold out the folks.
> For decades, economists knew China and India were industrializing and
> those countries would demand much greater amounts of oil. Everybody knew
> that OPEC could slow down production and gouge the world if it could and,
> of course, now it can.
>
> But if Americans would get angry and begin punishing the oil bandits,
> then prices would drop. However, we are often a selfish people. We want
> those gas-guzzling Hummers and SUVs, and we're paying a big price for that
> above and beyond the sticker.
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Fight Back Against Big Oil |
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Since: May 03, 2008 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:23 pm
Post subject: Re: Fight Back Against Big Oil [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:12:25 -0400, "K2NNJ"
<k2nnj.DeleteThis@nospam.optonline.net> wrote:
Lets see, average something like $0.47 / gallon in direct taxes, and
probably at least that in indirect taxes and the oil companies make
what, $0.05/ gallon pre tax, or is it after tax.
Hmmm, yeah, definitely the oil companies, yeah. OH, and they are
common stock companies owned by the pension funds so the idea is to
really shove it to the widows and orphans. Yeah, must me another
instance of "social justice." >> Stay informed about: Fight Back Against Big Oil |
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Since: Jan 11, 2008 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:35 pm
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Cheap $3.45 in the U.S. most places higher.
"Mike" <notavailable DeleteThis @btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>1 Litre of Diesel now costs £1.20 (about $2.5) here in the UK.
>
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> "K2NNJ" <k2nnj DeleteThis @nospam.optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4812819e$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> Fight Back Against Big Oil
>> By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
>> Thursday, Apr 24, 2008
>>
>> So now we have the presidential candidates running around telling
>> voters that they will help solve high gas prices. Well, if you believe
>> that, you'll believe that Hugo Chavez drives a Yugo. It's just bull.
>>
>> Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are calling for
>> "investigations" into "price gouging" by American oil companies. Good.
>> There's plenty of price manipulation going on and, under Presidents Bush
>> and Clinton, little federal oversight. If a big oil company wants to
>> tighten supply, for example, it's a snap. Just slow down the refinery
>> process by ordering some extra "maintenance" or something.
>>
>> But who is going to investigate Senators Obama and Clinton over
>> their opposition to oil drilling? The Democratic Party has consistently
>> opposed new drilling, and nuclear energy as well. Even the dedicated
>> liberal governments in France and Sweden bought into nuclear. But not the
>> American left, no way.
>>
>> On the Republican side, President Bush has done absolutely nothing
>> about rising gas prices, which is part of the reason is approval rating
>> is approaching 20%. He blames the Democrats. Fine. But the President
>> should be telling all Americans to cut back their gas consumption by 15%.
>> He should be urging us to use less gas. That would at least cut into big
>> oil's record profit margins.
>>
>> Senator John McCain proposes a gas tax "holiday" this summer. True,
>> that would save the folks a few bucks, but it would also add to the
>> massive spending deficit. The government better start balancing the
>> budget soon before Häagen-Dazs becomes more valuable than the U.S.
>> currency.
>>
>> The sad truth is that both political parties have sold out the
>> folks. For decades, economists knew China and India were industrializing
>> and those countries would demand much greater amounts of oil. Everybody
>> knew that OPEC could slow down production and gouge the world if it could
>> and, of course, now it can.
>>
>> But if Americans would get angry and begin punishing the oil
>> bandits, then prices would drop. However, we are often a selfish people.
>> We want those gas-guzzling Hummers and SUVs, and we're paying a big price
>> for that above and beyond the sticker.
>>
>>
>>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Fight Back Against Big Oil |
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Since: May 09, 2006 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 10:42 am
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Rearranged the top posting
> "K2NNJ" <k2nnj.TakeThisOut@nospam.optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4812819e$0$15161$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> Fight Back Against Big Oil
>> By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
>> Thursday, Apr 24, 2008
>>
>> So now we have the presidential candidates running around telling
>> voters that they will help solve high gas prices. Well, if you believe
>> that, you'll believe that Hugo Chavez drives a Yugo. It's just bull.
>>
>> Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are calling for
>> "investigations" into "price gouging" by American oil companies. Good.
>> There's plenty of price manipulation going on and, under Presidents Bush
>> and Clinton, little federal oversight. If a big oil company wants to
>> tighten supply, for example, it's a snap. Just slow down the refinery
>> process by ordering some extra "maintenance" or something.
>>
>> But who is going to investigate Senators Obama and Clinton over their
>> opposition to oil drilling? The Democratic Party has consistently opposed
>> new drilling, and nuclear energy as well. Even the dedicated liberal
>> governments in France and Sweden bought into nuclear. But not the American
>> left, no way.
>>
>> On the Republican side, President Bush has done absolutely nothing
>> about rising gas prices, which is part of the reason is approval rating is
>> approaching 20%. He blames the Democrats. Fine. But the President should
>> be telling all Americans to cut back their gas consumption by 15%. He
>> should be urging us to use less gas. That would at least cut into big
>> oil's record profit margins.
>>
>> Senator John McCain proposes a gas tax "holiday" this summer. True,
>> that would save the folks a few bucks, but it would also add to the
>> massive spending deficit. The government better start balancing the budget
>> soon before Häagen-Dazs becomes more valuable than the U.S. currency.
>>
>> The sad truth is that both political parties have sold out the folks.
>> For decades, economists knew China and India were industrializing and
>> those countries would demand much greater amounts of oil. Everybody knew
>> that OPEC could slow down production and gouge the world if it could and,
>> of course, now it can.
>>
>> But if Americans would get angry and begin punishing the oil bandits,
>> then prices would drop. However, we are often a selfish people. We want
>> those gas-guzzling Hummers and SUVs, and we're paying a big price for that
>> above and beyond the sticker.
>>
>>
>>
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John Gangl wrote:
> Out here in the Canadian prairies, a liter of gas is around $1.25 a
liter
> and diesel is about the same. This equates to about $4.75 a US gallon.
>
>
>
> Since when does any government care about the working people, they are
> bought and paid for by big business, always was always will be - no
matter
> which party!
>
>
>
> I wonder how much tax those big multinational oil company's pay on their
> billions and billions in profits. I bet you and me pay more than
they do!
>
>
>
> The ultimate energy source will be nuclear power but that is still
down the
> road. Big business cannot make enough money out of it or will not get
> enough handouts from the government currently and probably not
"politically
> correct" either.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Mike" <notavailable.TakeThisOut@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:HIOdnRgZ8P9M74nVnZ2dnUVZ8qWhnZ2d@bt.com...
> 1 Litre of Diesel now costs £1.20 (about $2.5) here in the UK.
>
>
Last year when Exxon was blasted for making ~$10B profit in a quarter I
read that they made about $3B in US sales $7B in international sales,
and paid ~$4B in US taxes about 40%, they paid more in taxes then they
made in US sales.
Also on worldnetdaily there are a few articles of people making oil from
organic waste, ie. trash, leaves, grass clippings etc. >> Stay informed about: Fight Back Against Big Oil |
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Since: Mar 06, 2004 Posts: 25
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:40 am
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Ron Todd <rltodd DeleteThis @ix.netcom.nospam.com> wrote in
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> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:12:25 -0400, "K2NNJ"
> <k2nnj DeleteThis @nospam.optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
> Lets see, average something like $0.47 / gallon in direct taxes, and
> probably at least that in indirect taxes and the oil companies make
> what, $0.05/ gallon pre tax, or is it after tax.
>
> Hmmm, yeah, definitely the oil companies, yeah. OH, and they are
> common stock companies owned by the pension funds so the idea is to
> really shove it to the widows and orphans. Yeah, must me another
> instance of "social justice."
>
>
>
You confuse retail dealers and OIL companies. Oil companies are the only
ones who know how much a gallon they make. >> Stay informed about: Fight Back Against Big Oil |
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