I Expected More !!!!

On Jan 24, 6:00 pm, MerliniH... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> Ive always been interested in SLS andSTS models, I have heard for
> years how great they are !
> Recently a 96 SLS fell into my lap for almost nothing, So i of course
> jumped at the chance to
> finally get my hands on one ! Its a relatively clean 110k car all
> stock .
>
> So ! Whats the problem ? Right ?
> The car starts right up idles like a rock , has no signs of the
> infamous cooling system issues ,
> But when i drive it i am convinced something has to be wrong ! I have
> over the years owned several older muscle type cars and there is in my
> opinion no way this car pulls like a 300 hp car !
>
> What i get is , five or ten feet of rubber then ,a long boggy pull
> towards second gear ! Is this normal ??? It doesnt seem right to me !
> What it reminds me of , if any of you remember , is and old badly
> tuned quadrajet lol !!
>
> I haven't had a chance to check it out yet ,so any advice you guys
> could give as to where to start would be highly appreciated ....a
> friend advised to clean or replace the EGR valve so i guess ill start
> there !! As it is my old 180hp 4.5 Deville would probably dust this
> car !!! ((  HELP PLEASE

You shouldn't get even five or ten feet of rubber, with the traction
control and all. The egr is full electronic and if it had a problem,
it should set a performance type code. It will either stick closed, or
stick open. Elaborate on the 'idles like a rock', is this a good or
bad thing. The transmission is adaptive, if Grandma has been driving
the car, then it will think Grandma is driving the car until it learns
different. How does it accel when it is manually shifted through the
gears? It is an SLS which is going to deliver you a bit less
performance than the STS. It could be a little choked up with carbon
as well, a lot of people don't drive these cars like they need to be
driven. If at higher rpms of hard accel, you see a trail of gray sooty
emissions, it is carbon. Check the plugs, found to run best on ac
delco platinums. Use a good brand of mid grade fuel as well. Have the
cooling system tested for presence of combustion gases.
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On Jan 24, 11:31 pm, Certainly <gStace... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 6:00 pm, MerliniH... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ive always been interested in SLS andSTS models, I have heard for
> > years how great they are !
> > Recently a 96 SLS fell into my lap for almost nothing, So i of course
> > jumped at the chance to
> > finally get my hands on one ! Its a relatively clean 110k car all
> > stock .
>
> > So ! Whats the problem ? Right ?
> > The car starts right up idles like a rock , has no signs of the
> > infamous cooling system issues ,
> > But when i drive it i am convinced something has to be wrong ! I have
> > over the years owned several older muscle type cars and there is in my
> > opinion no way this car pulls like a 300 hp car !
>
> > What i get is , five or ten feet of rubber then ,a long boggy pull
> > towards second gear ! Is this normal ??? It doesnt seem right to me !
> > What it reminds me of , if any of you remember , is and old badly
> > tuned quadrajet lol !!
>
> > I haven't had a chance to check it out yet ,so any advice you guys
> > could give as to where to start would be highly appreciated ....a
> > friend advised to clean or replace the EGR valve so i guess ill start
> > there !! As it is my old 180hp 4.5 Deville would probably dust this
> > car !!! (( HELP PLEASE
>
> You shouldn't get even five or ten feet of rubber, with the traction
> control and all. The egr is full electronic and if it had a problem,
> it should set a performance type code. It will either stick closed, or
> stick open. Elaborate on the 'idles like a rock', is this a good or
> bad thing. The transmission is adaptive, if Grandma has been driving
> the car, then it will think Grandma is driving the car until it learns
> different. How does it accel when it is manually shifted through the
> gears? It is an SLS which is going to deliver you a bit less
> performance than the STS. It could be a little choked up with carbon
> as well, a lot of people don't drive these cars like they need to be
> driven. If at higher rpms of hard accel, you see a trail of gray sooty
> emissions, it is carbon. Check the plugs, found to run best on ac
> delco platinums. Use a good brand of mid grade fuel as well. Have the
> cooling system tested for presence of combustion gases.



Thank You both very much for the tips and info.......I will be giveing
the car
a good going over this weekend .......plugs wires air filter etc .ill
let you know how it goes
As far as it "idles like a rock " i meant it shows no sign of skipping
or misfireing .......thx again
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I too have owned and been involved with muscle cars for entire adult life.
My wife has a 2005 STS, with the 320hp northstar engine, which is some 45+
hp more than your 96 SLS. Designed to be Caddy's top of the line 4 door
performance sedan, the STS is very quick for a heavy 4 door luxury sedan,
loaded with options, but at my 5,500' altitude, is some 1-2 seconds slower
0-60 and 2 seconds slower through the quarter than my stock 305hp 2000 LS1
Trans-am (5.1 sec 0-60, 13.6 sec, 106mph -quarter mile). Even though,
compared other 4 door luxury sedans it is outstanding, I'd of been quite
surprised had the Caddy come any closer to the T/A.

You are trying to compare apples to oranges. You didn't buy a muscle car,
you bought a performance oriented, quite heavy luxury automobile. It should
compete quite well with similar year Beemers, Lexus and Mercedes, which,
inspite of all the bullshit they put in their advertising, are not muscle
cars either.

What were your 0 to 60 and quarter mile times compared to you old Caddy? I
think the seat of the pants difference you perceive in performance between
your old caddy and your new one is just the difference in ride and sound
proofing a newer caddy enjoys over the old runs. Go stomp on a old rattlely
'59 Deville hard top or 'vert and it will sound an vibrate the seat of your
pants like it is going a heck of a lot faster than it really is.




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> Ive always been interested in SLS andSTS models, I have heard for
> years how great they are !
> Recently a 96 SLS fell into my lap for almost nothing, So i of course
> jumped at the chance to
> finally get my hands on one ! Its a relatively clean 110k car all
> stock .
>
> So ! Whats the problem ? Right ?
> The car starts right up idles like a rock , has no signs of the
> infamous cooling system issues ,
> But when i drive it i am convinced something has to be wrong ! I have
> over the years owned several older muscle type cars and there is in my
> opinion no way this car pulls like a 300 hp car !
>
> What i get is , five or ten feet of rubber then ,a long boggy pull
> towards second gear ! Is this normal ??? It doesnt seem right to me !
> What it reminds me of , if any of you remember , is and old badly
> tuned quadrajet lol !!
>
> I haven't had a chance to check it out yet ,so any advice you guys
> could give as to where to start would be highly appreciated ....a
> friend advised to clean or replace the EGR valve so i guess ill start
> there !! As it is my old 180hp 4.5 Deville would probably dust this
> car !!! (( HELP PLEASE
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