Exhaust Headers

On 7 Jul 2006 17:21:54 -0700, "brian" <brians4.RemoveThis@skybest.com> wrote:

>I have a 92' power ram 150 with the 318. I'm thinking about getting a
>set of headers to go on it. I have dual exhaust with the flowmaster 40
>on it and it sounds pretty darn good. What kind of a sound could i
>expect with headers? I'v read that you gain a little power and gas
>MPG, is this true? Also what brand is the best, don't want no crome or
>high priced headers. It looks to me that they would be pretty easy to
>put on, just a few bolts is all you take out and i,v got plenty of room
>to work with.
>
>Thanks, Brian


Headers tend to ring a bit at times and as far as MPG gains' you will
see not around town (you are already loosing there now with duals) and
maybe a little bit on highway. THe reason is because a engine is a
heat engine it that it extracts energy from expanding gasses to drive
piston down and rotate crank and when you let the pressure blow off
too quickly at lower RPM. power and efficency are lost. (if dual help
that much, truck would come with them given the HP and MPG wars at
detriot) Headers do best at middle and upper RPM's and in your case if
you get them make sure that they have about 34 inch tube that are 1/5
inches in diameter with a 2.5 inch collector. If you get shorter tubs
(and or bigger diameter ones) tyour lower and middle RPM's will suffer
even more. ALso if you do not have one now, you need a cross over or X
pipe between the banks as it will improve sound more and help lower
RPM responce as well and keep pipes at 2.25 inchs max too as bigger
pipe are hurting not helping power and efficency.
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Keep the stock manifolds
TTI Headers are the best brand for what you need. Figure on spending
$500 The cheap $79 specials will always leak & are a big pain
in the A
You are also modifying the emission system which is illegal
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On 7 Jul 2006 20:24:47 -0700, "brian" <brians4 RemoveThis @skybest.com> wrote:

>
>sqdancerLynn wrote:
>> Keep the stock manifolds
>> TTI Headers are the best brand for what you need. Figure on spending
>> $500 The cheap $79 specials will always leak & are a big pain
>> in the A
>> You are also modifying the emission system which is illegal
>
>Well, if I have to spend $500 the heck with it! I'll just leave it
>like it is. Besides I have to fix up my girlfriends turck. Its a
>Black Dakota, i'm going to take it and put her on some custom exhaust
>to make that V8 sing for her, for her birthday.


Get some Thorley Tri Y's, they are the best street header you can get
period. THey can usually be nad for less than 500 bucks and have the
best midrange of any street header.
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SnoMan wrote:
> On 7 Jul 2006 20:24:47 -0700, "brian" <brians4.TakeThisOut@skybest.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >sqdancerLynn wrote:
> >> Keep the stock manifolds
> >> TTI Headers are the best brand for what you need. Figure on spending
> >> $500 The cheap $79 specials will always leak & are a big pain
> >> in the A
> >> You are also modifying the emission system which is illegal
> >
> >Well, if I have to spend $500 the heck with it! I'll just leave it
> >like it is. Besides I have to fix up my girlfriends turck. Its a
> >Black Dakota, i'm going to take it and put her on some custom exhaust
> >to make that V8 sing for her, for her birthday.
>
>
> Get some Thorley Tri Y's, they are the best street header you can get
> period. THey can usually be nad for less than 500 bucks and have the
> best midrange of any street header.
> -----------------
> The SnoMan
> www.thesnoman.com

I will check them out and see what I think of them. Thanks for the
suggestions.
Brian
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On 8 Jul 2006 09:27:28 -0700, "brian" <brians4.TakeThisOut@skybest.com> wrote:

>
>SnoMan wrote:
>> On 7 Jul 2006 20:24:47 -0700, "brian" <brians4.TakeThisOut@skybest.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >sqdancerLynn wrote:
>> >> Keep the stock manifolds
>> >> TTI Headers are the best brand for what you need. Figure on spending
>> >> $500 The cheap $79 specials will always leak & are a big pain
>> >> in the A
>> >> You are also modifying the emission system which is illegal
>> >
>> >Well, if I have to spend $500 the heck with it! I'll just leave it
>> >like it is. Besides I have to fix up my girlfriends turck. Its a
>> >Black Dakota, i'm going to take it and put her on some custom exhaust
>> >to make that V8 sing for her, for her birthday.
>>
>>
>> Get some Thorley Tri Y's, they are the best street header you can get
>> period. THey can usually be nad for less than 500 bucks and have the
>> best midrange of any street header.
>> -----------------
>> The SnoMan
>> www.thesnoman.com
>
>I will check them out and see what I think of them. Thanks for the
>suggestions.
>Brian


Those TriY's date back to the 50's in design. It is a well proven
concept.
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Brian, what Snobrain is referencign aout releasing heat energy too soon is
due to CAM timing, and has nothing to do with headers.

Regarding make of headers, check with Hedman or if you want, get a set of
cheapies. Either one will give improved performance for the 318, despite
what you've been told.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)


"brian" <brians4.TakeThisOut@skybest.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 92' power ram 150 with the 318. I'm thinking about getting a
> set of headers to go on it. I have dual exhaust with the flowmaster 40
> on it and it sounds pretty darn good. What kind of a sound could i
> expect with headers? I'v read that you gain a little power and gas
> MPG, is this true? Also what brand is the best, don't want no crome or
> high priced headers. It looks to me that they would be pretty easy to
> put on, just a few bolts is all you take out and i,v got plenty of room
> to work with.
>
> Thanks, Brian
>
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On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:02:15 GMT, "Max Dodge" <max340.DeleteThis@verizon.net>
wrote:

>Brian, what Snobrain is referencign aout releasing heat energy too soon is
>due to CAM timing, and has nothing to do with headers.


Again showing your limited comprehension of the dynamics of engine
operation, it does make a difeferance on how much back pressure is on
the port at lower RPM's. New engines are TUNED to cam and exhaust and
installing header to take a good bit away for low end responce and
torque. You should take some course in IC engine design and
thermodynamic priciple before you make some unfounded statements and
call people names while doing it. I guess it makes you feel big huh?
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"SnoMan" <admin RemoveThis @snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:02:15 GMT, "Max Dodge" <max340 RemoveThis @verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Brian, what Snobrain is referencign aout releasing heat energy too soon is
>>due to CAM timing, and has nothing to do with headers.
>
>

Hey WTF is the word below? You are so quick to correct others.....
"responce"
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"Roy" <Roy DeleteThis @home.net> wrote in message
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> "SnoMan" <admin DeleteThis @snoman.com> wrote in message
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> > On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:02:15 GMT, "Max Dodge" <max340 DeleteThis @verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Brian, what Snobrain is referencign aout releasing heat energy too soon
is
> >>due to CAM timing, and has nothing to do with headers.
> >
> >
>
> Hey WTF is the word below? You are so quick to correct others.....
> "responce"


Geeze Roy, resorting to spelling errors. As sad as it may be, snowman is
completely correct here.

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> Geeze Roy, resorting to spelling errors. As sad as it may be, snowman is
> completely correct here.

Got proof? Neither does Snobrain.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)


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> "Roy" <Roy.DeleteThis@home.net> wrote in message
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>> "SnoMan" <admin.DeleteThis@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>> > On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:02:15 GMT, "Max Dodge" <max340.DeleteThis@verizon.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Brian, what Snobrain is referencign aout releasing heat energy too soon
> is
>> >>due to CAM timing, and has nothing to do with headers.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Hey WTF is the word below? You are so quick to correct others.....
>> "responce"
>
>
> Geeze Roy, resorting to spelling errors. As sad as it may be, snowman is
> completely correct here.
>
> --
> If at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving
>
>
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"TBone" <tboneNOSPAM.RemoveThis@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Roy" <Roy.RemoveThis@home.net> wrote in message
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>> "SnoMan" <admin.RemoveThis@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>> > On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:02:15 GMT, "Max Dodge" <max340.RemoveThis@verizon.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Brian, what Snobrain is referencign aout releasing heat energy too soon
> is
>> >>due to CAM timing, and has nothing to do with headers.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Hey WTF is the word below? You are so quick to correct others.....
>> "responce"
>
>
> Geeze Roy, resorting to spelling errors. As sad as it may be, snowman is
> completely correct here.


Really? Care to show me?
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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 03:21:17 GMT, "TBone" <tboneNOSPAM.RemoveThis@nc.rr.com>
wrote:

>"Roy" <Roy.RemoveThis@home.net> wrote in message
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>> "SnoMan" <admin.RemoveThis@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>> > On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 18:02:15 GMT, "Max Dodge" <max340.RemoveThis@verizon.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>Brian, what Snobrain is referencign aout releasing heat energy too soon
>is
>> >>due to CAM timing, and has nothing to do with headers.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Hey WTF is the word below? You are so quick to correct others.....
>> "responce"
>

i don't want to get into the middle of this, but common sense says
that snoman couldn't be completely correct about much of anything.

tom, just saying, i wouldn't want to be hitchin my wagon to snoman.

>
>Geeze Roy, resorting to spelling errors. As sad as it may be, snowman is
>completely correct here.
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"Max Dodge" <max340.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> > Geeze Roy, resorting to spelling errors. As sad as it may be, snowman
is
> > completely correct here.
>
> Got proof? Neither does Snobrain.


Sure I do but what would be the point as you are incapable of understanding
it anyway.

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