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Since: Dec 14, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:40 am
Post subject: Ethanol Question
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I have a 2002 Camry with the 4-cyl engine. Approximately 58000 miles on
it.
Is it safe to use gasoline with 10% ethanol in it? Are there any
preparations I might need to make to do so?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:06 am
Post subject: Re: Ethanol Question [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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As far as I know all "modern" cars are designed to use the 10% ethanol
blend. We've used plenty of it in a number of cars (inccluding older
carburated) without any problem. Whether it makes good sense to use it is
another matter. The way it's manufactured here in the US it takes a lot of
fossil fuel to make it plus the corn consumption tends to drive food
prices up. In addition there's less energy in alcohol compared to
gasoline so mileage suffers slightly. (I live in corn country -- my
neighbors wouldn't like those comments.) I don't use it much anymore even
though it's cheaper here (subsidized).
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:08 am
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"Yardclerk" wrote in message
>I have a 2002 Camry with the 4-cyl engine. Approximately 58000 miles on
>it.
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> Is it safe to use gasoline with 10% ethanol in it? Are there any
> preparations I might need to make to do so?
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> Appreciate anyt info anyone might have.
It is actually safer for your car than it is for you. There have been
reports that it affects humans in an adverse manor.
Just about every major city is required to use gas that is up to 10%
ethanol. There is not anything else you need to do. >> Stay informed about: Ethanol Question |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:57 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:57 pm
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On Dec 14, 8:57 pm, "jimhigh66" wrote:
> Ransley makes a good point about water absorbtion. One place I do NOT use
> ethanol is with 2 stroke engines that use an oil mix (I have a PPC and an
> ultralight with Rotax 2-strokes.) The "conventional wisdom" is that
> ethanol modifies the fuel-oil mixture ratio. But some users claim use
> with no problem. I'll stick with the Rotax recommendations. There's also
> information that the rubber compounds used in fuel pumps, for example, back
> in the middle of the last century won't withstand ethanol.
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Here all we get is 10% alcohol and my 2 stroke 83 Lawnboy is fine and
everyone uses 2 stroke lawn equipment. More than 10% I would not do,
it has to do with the oil loosing effectiveness and alcohol, I think. >> Stay informed about: Ethanol Question |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:25 am
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"ransley" wrote in message
> On Dec 14, 8:57 pm, "jimhigh66" wrote:
>> Ransley makes a good point about water absorbtion. One place I do NOT use
>> ethanol is with 2 stroke engines that use an oil mix (I have a PPC and an
>> ultralight with Rotax 2-strokes.) The "conventional wisdom" is that
>> ethanol modifies the fuel-oil mixture ratio. But some users claim use
>> with no problem. I'll stick with the Rotax recommendations. There's also
>> information that the rubber compounds used in fuel pumps, for example,
>> back
>> in the middle of the last century won't withstand ethanol.
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>> --
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>> usinghttp://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.toyota.camry/
>> More information athttp://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
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> Here all we get is 10% alcohol and my 2 stroke 83 Lawnboy is fine and
> everyone uses 2 stroke lawn equipment. More than 10% I would not do,
> it has to do with the oil loosing effectiveness and alcohol, I think.
Most of us HERE use FOUR stroke engines. Two stroke engines STINK STINK
STINK and usually smoke, too. >> Stay informed about: Ethanol Question |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:07 am
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On Dec 15, 12:50 am, "Sharx35" wrote:
> "ransley" wrote in message
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> > On Dec 14, 8:57 pm, "jimhigh66" wrote:
> >> Ransley makes a good point about water absorbtion. One place I do NOT use
> >> ethanol is with 2 stroke engines that use an oil mix (I have a PPC and an
> >> ultralight with Rotax 2-strokes.) The "conventional wisdom" is that
> >> ethanol modifies the fuel-oil mixture ratio. But some users claim use
> >> with no problem. I'll stick with the Rotax recommendations. There's also
> >> information that the rubber compounds used in fuel pumps, for example,
> >> back
> >> in the middle of the last century won't withstand ethanol.
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> >> Message posted
> >> usinghttp://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.toyota.camry/
> >> More information athttp://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
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> > Here all we get is 10% alcohol and my 2 stroke 83 Lawnboy is fine and
> > everyone uses 2 stroke lawn equipment. More than 10% I would not do,
> > it has to do with the oil loosing effectiveness and alcohol, I think.
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> Most of us HERE use FOUR stroke engines. Two stroke engines STINK STINK
> STINK and usually smoke, too.- Hide quoted text -
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HERE, you mean nobody HERE goes fishing with a small motor, rode a
motorbike, cuts their grass, trims, blows leaves, cuts wood, does
their snow, so everyone HERE you say is a indoor lazy condo bore. Who
makes a chainsaw, leaf blower, trimmer, snow blower, as cheap, light,
and reliable as Echo-Sthil, the lawn industry needs 4 stroke but now
they are just to expensive in that class. Maybe you can afford a 500$
4 stroke Honda trimmer. >> Stay informed about: Ethanol Question |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:25 pm
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"ransley" wrote in message
> On Dec 15, 12:50 am, "Sharx35" wrote:
>> "ransley" wrote in message
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>> > On Dec 14, 8:57 pm, "jimhigh66" wrote:
>> >> Ransley makes a good point about water absorbtion. One place I do NOT
>> >> use
>> >> ethanol is with 2 stroke engines that use an oil mix (I have a PPC and
>> >> an
>> >> ultralight with Rotax 2-strokes.) The "conventional wisdom" is that
>> >> ethanol modifies the fuel-oil mixture ratio. But some users claim use
>> >> with no problem. I'll stick with the Rotax recommendations. There's
>> >> also
>> >> information that the rubber compounds used in fuel pumps, for example,
>> >> back
>> >> in the middle of the last century won't withstand ethanol.
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>> >> --
>> >> Message posted
>> >> usinghttp://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.toyota.camry/
>> >> More information athttp://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
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>> > Here all we get is 10% alcohol and my 2 stroke 83 Lawnboy is fine and
>> > everyone uses 2 stroke lawn equipment. More than 10% I would not do,
>> > it has to do with the oil loosing effectiveness and alcohol, I think.
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>> Most of us HERE use FOUR stroke engines. Two stroke engines STINK STINK
>> STINK and usually smoke, too.- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
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> HERE, you mean nobody HERE goes fishing with a small motor, rode a
> motorbike, cuts their grass, trims, blows leaves, cuts wood, does
> their snow, so everyone HERE you say is a indoor lazy condo bore. Who
> makes a chainsaw, leaf blower, trimmer, snow blower, as cheap, light,
> and reliable as Echo-Sthil, the lawn industry needs 4 stroke but now
> they are just to expensive in that class. Maybe you can afford a 500$
> 4 stroke Honda trimmer.
All of my standard-sized lawnmowers have ALWAYS been 4 stroke..and that
goes back more than 20 years.
Ditto for snow blowers. For trimmers, I've always used electric. >> Stay informed about: Ethanol Question |
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