Environmentalists. vs. Prius

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" ...

> "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>
>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/69534
>>
>> Interesting. I saw you guys discussing this recently. Sounds like
>> Toyota
>> can't win either way.
>>
>> Natalie
>
> It's because stupid people can't understand the concept of not wanting
> laws passed.
>
> It isn't that Toyota doesn't want to be green, or build green cars.
> They simply don't want to be forced to do something by law, something
> that the market doesn't want.

I remember someone saying that the regs were unrealistically strict.
>
> Let the market decide. If the gummint wants to pass laws, let them pass
> laws on the individuals buying the cars. As it is now, though,
> lawmakers would rather hide from the individuals and not force through
> higher fuel taxes, for example, and instead try to make the carmakers be
> the bad guy.
>
And this is surprising, why?

> When the public wants to buy a truck but Toyota doesn't have any to
> sell, the public blames Toyota, not the gummint that caused the
> situation.

That would require actually researching things. We can't have that.
>
> But when the public is forced to pay $5/gallon in taxes because the
> gummint wants the public to be green, the legislators get thrown out of
> office and out of a job--and for some, the only job they can ever get.
>

We tried that with congress, for all the good it did. Bunch of spineless
weenies.

Natalie
 >> Stay informed about: Environmentalists. vs. Prius 

"C. E. White" ...
>
> "Wickeddoll" ...
>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/69534
>>
>> Interesting. I saw you guys discussing this recently. Sounds like
>> Toyota can't win either way.
>>
>> Natalie
>
> Toyota is in the green business - the money kind of green (just like all
> the other car manufacturers). They don't build Priuses because they are
> warm hearted environmentalist, they build them because they can sell them
> and make money (either directly, or indirectly because they are image
> builders, or CAFE improvers). Toyota wants a big piece of the Truck/SUV
> pie. They have invested billions to build big trucks in the US. They have
> upsized their entire fleet (car and truck) in a an effort to appeal to
> Americans. The rules the environmentalist are trying to ram down our
> throats put the investment at risk. Ask Ford how well having a soft head
> environmentalist CEO saying wacky things works out.
>
I'll take your word for it.

> If the people that run this country weren't cowards, they would slap a
> substantial and escalating tax on imported oil and repeal the CAFE
> nonsense. Instead they think that the CAFE smoke and mirrors will let them
> have their cake and eat it too.
>
> Ed

It's worked all this time, so why not? Once again, screw the consumer.

Natalie
 >> Stay informed about: Environmentalists. vs. Prius 

"nico" <nicokpe.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194875032.401752.218100@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>> > Natalie
*snipping great observations for brevity.
>>
>> If the people that run this country weren't cowards, they would slap a
>> substantial and escalating tax on imported oil and repeal the CAFE
>> nonsense. Instead they think that the CAFE smoke and mirrors will let
>> them have their cake and eat it too.
>>
>> Ed
>
> That's correct Natalie
>
> ____________________
> nico

Oh, I believe him.

Natalie
 >> Stay informed about: Environmentalists. vs. Prius 

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:27:22 -0500, Wickeddoll wrote:

> http://www.newsweek.com/id/69534
>
> Interesting. I saw you guys discussing this recently. Sounds like Toyota
> can't win either way.
>
> Natalie


I saw a Prius, a Nissan Altima Hybrid and a Honda Civic Hybrid on the raod
today.

Know what? They still run on gas.
 >> Stay informed about: Environmentalists. vs. Prius 

"Hachiroku"
Wickeddoll wrote:
>
>> http://www.newsweek.com/id/69534
>>
>> Interesting. I saw you guys discussing this recently. Sounds like
>> Toyota
>> can't win either way.
>>
>> Natalie
>
>
> I saw a Prius, a Nissan Altima Hybrid and a Honda Civic Hybrid on the raod
> today.
>
> Know what? They still run on gas.
>
>
LOL yeah, but not nearly as much.

Natalie
 >> Stay informed about: Environmentalists. vs. Prius