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Since: Sep 09, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:28 am
Post subject: Engine Swaps
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I am going to attempt to swap in a 2jz-gte into my 02 celica, i am
aware that it is a rear wheel drive engine going into a front wheel
drive car. I would like any help that is there to be had. any advice,
websites, books, and people that i should talk to would be great. the
first big hurdles are in my mind if the engine will even fit and how to
make the car rear wheel drive without completely tearing the car apart,
rebuilding it and setting the celica shell on top of it. thanks to
anyone who replys to this.
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Since: May 02, 2005
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:25 am
Post subject: Re: Engine Swaps [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<darkhavok21 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I am going to attempt to swap in a 2jz-gte into my 02 celica, i am
> aware that it is a rear wheel drive engine going into a front wheel
> drive car. The first big hurdles are in my mind if the engine will even
> fit and how to
> make the car rear wheel drive without completely tearing the car apart,
> rebuilding it and setting the celica shell on top of it.
You want to do WHAT? This is might be feasible for a track only car, but
ridiculous for a road car. It would be unsafe, uninsurable and illegal in
any jurisdiction I know of. The primary issue is fitting the engine NS in an
EW engine bay. The fire wall would need to be cut out and extended for the
back of the engine and the gearbox, and a transmission tunnel fabricated to
the rear.
You can't just cut pieces out here and there and weld new bits in, because
this results in major loss of structural integrity.
The second issue is how the rear suspension points would be redesigned and
body shell strengthened to handle the loads that rear drive would feed into
the body. The rear of a FWD car is not designed for these loads.
> ...completely tearing the car apart,
> rebuilding it and setting the celica shell on top of it.
This is EXACTLY what is needed, and requires major facility and expensive
metal fabrication equipment and engineering skills which you obviously don't
have or you would not be asking the question.
The only way this MIGHT be possible is to fabricate a full chassis (or use a
chassis from something else) and drop the Celica body on top. This is
commonly done with 4wd chassis, but the result is a high and heavy vehicle.
Here in Ottawa there's a 79 Dodge Arrow (Mitsu Celeste) on a Bronco chassis,
and an 82 Jaguar XJ6 on a lwb GM 4wd chassis.
Come up with another project ...
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Engine Swaps [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In Las Vegas we have a company called pick-a-part who specializes in
specific parts and installations. They will help you with any info or
advice you need. search their number in an internet phone directory.
http://www.safelotvegas.com/ darkhavok21 RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> I am going to attempt to swap in a 2jz-gte into my 02 celica, i am
> aware that it is a rear wheel drive engine going into a front wheel
> drive car. I would like any help that is there to be had. any advice,
> websites, books, and people that i should talk to would be great. the
> first big hurdles are in my mind if the engine will even fit and how to
> make the car rear wheel drive without completely tearing the car apart,
> rebuilding it and setting the celica shell on top of it. thanks to
> anyone who replys to this.
>
> Robert >> Stay informed about: Engine Swaps |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Engine Swaps [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 00:28:34 -0700, darkhavok21 wrote:
> I am going to attempt to swap in a 2jz-gte into my 02 celica, i am
> aware that it is a rear wheel drive engine going into a front wheel
> drive car. I would like any help that is there to be had. any advice,
> websites, books, and people that i should talk to would be great. the
> first big hurdles are in my mind if the engine will even fit and how to
> make the car rear wheel drive without completely tearing the car apart,
> rebuilding it and setting the celica shell on top of it. thanks to
> anyone who replys to this.
>
> Robert
Are yew bullshittin' me? 
(Or are you a closet suicidal maniac?!?!) Let us know what happens... >> Stay informed about: Engine Swaps |
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Since: Apr 08, 2006
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:55 pm
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<darkhavok21 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1157786914.477688.244180@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>I am going to attempt to swap in a 2jz-gte into my 02 celica, i am
> aware that it is a rear wheel drive engine going into a front wheel
> drive car. I would like any help that is there to be had. any advice,
> websites, books, and people that i should talk to would be great. the
> first big hurdles are in my mind if the engine will even fit and how to
> make the car rear wheel drive without completely tearing the car apart,
> rebuilding it and setting the celica shell on top of it. thanks to
> anyone who replys to this.
>
> Robert
>
Ha-ha, That reminds me of a guy in high school who thought he would give his firebird
a targa top. I'm still laughing at the thought of what that poor firebird looked like when
the body literally bent right in the middle. oh god. hahahahahahahaha
GL
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Engine Swaps [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 9 Sep 2006 00:28:34 -0700, darkhavok21.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
>I am going to attempt to swap in a 2jz-gte into my 02 celica, i am
>aware that it is a rear wheel drive engine going into a front wheel
>drive car. I would like any help that is there to be had. any advice,
>websites, books, and people that i should talk to would be great. the
>first big hurdles are in my mind if the engine will even fit and how to
>make the car rear wheel drive without completely tearing the car apart,
>rebuilding it and setting the celica shell on top of it. thanks to
>anyone who replys to this.
>
>Robert
I'd be easier if you bought a Supra to begin with. >> Stay informed about: Engine Swaps |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:55 am
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<darkhavok21.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I am going to attempt to swap in a 2jz-gte into my 02 celica, i am
> aware that it is a rear wheel drive engine going into a front wheel
> drive car. I would like any help that is there to be had. any advice,
> websites, books, and people that i should talk to would be great. the
> first big hurdles are in my mind if the engine will even fit and how to
> make the car rear wheel drive without completely tearing the car apart,
> rebuilding it and setting the celica shell on top of it. thanks to
> anyone who replys to this.
>
> Robert
Robert,
Are you nucking futs? Go and get yourself a nice Chevelle or something.
What you contemplate can't be done short of swapping in a frame (say, from a
pick-up as sedans are all unibody) or fabricating your own - and in either
case you'd better doggone well know what you are doing. And this is what
you are trying to avoid - "rebuilding it and setting the celica shell on top
of it."
I consider myself reasonably knowledgable and have several successful engine
swaps behind me - but I would not even think about doing what you are
considering.
You'd be better off finding a different engine which will bolt in to your
current drivetrain configuration, or turbo/super charging your existing
engine. Either option would be less expensive and certainly far safer.
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Mike Harris
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Engine Swaps [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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darkhavok21.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>I am going to attempt to swap in a 2jz-gte into my 02 celica, i am
>aware that it is a rear wheel drive engine going into a front wheel
>drive car. I would like any help that is there to be had. any advice,
>websites, books, and people that i should talk to would be great. the
>first big hurdles are in my mind if the engine will even fit and how to
>make the car rear wheel drive without completely tearing the car apart,
>rebuilding it and setting the celica shell on top of it. thanks to
>anyone who replys to this.
You're freaking cracked in the head. It won't fit. Not even close.
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