Honda Pilot EXL 2007 - remote start

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> "random electron" <fake.TakeThisOut@fake.net> wrote in message
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>> Hi
>>
>> Is the Pilot capable of remote start? If so, can it be activated?
>
>
> You have to install an auto-start unit first.
>

Thanks for the response. Can you tell me more?
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"random electron" <fake.DeleteThis@fake.net> wrote in message
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>> "random electron" <fake.DeleteThis@fake.net> wrote in message
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>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Is the Pilot capable of remote start? If so, can it be activated?
>>
>> You have to install an auto-start unit first.
>
> Thanks for the response. Can you tell me more?

Unless you are asking for a step-by-step walkthrough of installing a unit,
no, not really.

You want to add a remote control starter to your car, you will have to buy
an appropriate unit and install it. There are many makes and models.
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> "random electron" <fake.TakeThisOut@fake.net> wrote in message
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>>> "random electron" <fake.TakeThisOut@fake.net> wrote in message
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>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Is the Pilot capable of remote start? If so, can it be activated?
>>>
>>> You have to install an auto-start unit first.
>>
>> Thanks for the response. Can you tell me more?
>
> Unless you are asking for a step-by-step walkthrough of installing a
> unit, no, not really.
>
> You want to add a remote control starter to your car, you will have to
> buy an appropriate unit and install it. There are many makes and
> models.
>
>
>
No, I'm not looking for a step by step. More precisely, I am interested in
adding OEM equipment. So if it were a matter of buying the radio, or
enabling a feature in the Honda computer or buying a Honda key with a
remote start button.... That's what I was really looking for.

Thanks
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random electron wrote:
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>>>> "random electron" <fake DeleteThis @fake.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the Pilot capable of remote start? If so, can it be activated?
>>>> You have to install an auto-start unit first.
>>> Thanks for the response. Can you tell me more?
>> Unless you are asking for a step-by-step walkthrough of installing a
>> unit, no, not really.
>>
>> You want to add a remote control starter to your car, you will have to
>> buy an appropriate unit and install it. There are many makes and
>> models.
>>
>>
>>
> No, I'm not looking for a step by step. More precisely, I am interested in
> adding OEM equipment. So if it were a matter of buying the radio, or
> enabling a feature in the Honda computer or buying a Honda key with a
> remote start button.... That's what I was really looking for.
>
> Thanks

remote start is not a great idea. engine wear is greatest when the
engine is cold. remote start ensures the engine reaches operating
temperature as slowly as possible - it's much better to start and drive
away immediately as it minimizes the time at which the engine is
operating cold. habitual use of remote start also increases the rate at
which engine oil contaminates - for the same reason.

if you're interested in remote start for climatic reasons, you're better
off with a block heater and synthetic oil.

oh, and remote start also requires you leave a key near the ignition
sensor so the security chip can disarm the computer lock.
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"random electron" <fake.TakeThisOut@fake.net> wrote in message
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> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>> "random electron" <fake.TakeThisOut@fake.net> wrote in message
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>>>> "random electron" <fake.TakeThisOut@fake.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the Pilot capable of remote start? If so, can it be activated?
>>>>
>>>> You have to install an auto-start unit first.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the response. Can you tell me more?
>>
>> Unless you are asking for a step-by-step walkthrough of installing a
>> unit, no, not really.
>>
>> You want to add a remote control starter to your car, you will have to
>> buy an appropriate unit and install it. There are many makes and
>> models.
>>
> No, I'm not looking for a step by step. More precisely, I am interested in
> adding OEM equipment. So if it were a matter of buying the radio, or
> enabling a feature in the Honda computer or buying a Honda key with a
> remote start button.... That's what I was really looking for.


I know of no OEM unit to do this. That's why I say there are many makes and
models. This is an aftermarket device.
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Seth wrote:
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>>>>> "random electron" <fake.RemoveThis@fake.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns996D50464AEA3fakefakenet@140.99.99.130...
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the Pilot capable of remote start? If so, can it be activated?
>>>>>
>>>>> You have to install an auto-start unit first.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the response. Can you tell me more?
>>>
>>> Unless you are asking for a step-by-step walkthrough of installing a
>>> unit, no, not really.
>>>
>>> You want to add a remote control starter to your car, you will have to
>>> buy an appropriate unit and install it. There are many makes and
>>> models.
>>>
>> No, I'm not looking for a step by step. More precisely, I am
>> interested in
>> adding OEM equipment. So if it were a matter of buying the radio, or
>> enabling a feature in the Honda computer or buying a Honda key with a
>> remote start button.... That's what I was really looking for.
>
>
> I know of no OEM unit to do this.

because it's not necessary and it's bad for the engine!

> That's why I say there are many makes
> and models. This is an aftermarket device.
>
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"jim beam" <spamvortex.RemoveThis@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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>
> oh, and remote start also requires you leave a key near the ignition
> sensor so the security chip can disarm the computer lock.


This part hasn't been true in a long time (at least when dealing with a
decent brand and reputable shop). The better brands have add-on modules
that memorize your key's signature and re-broadcast it when it receives a
proper signal from the starter's main module. It lies dormant otherwise.
 >> Stay informed about: Honda Pilot EXL 2007 - remote start 

Seth wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex.DeleteThis@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:GdydnWA1I7NARAfbnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>
>> oh, and remote start also requires you leave a key near the ignition
>> sensor so the security chip can disarm the computer lock.
>
>
> This part hasn't been true in a long time (at least when dealing with a
> decent brand and reputable shop). The better brands have add-on modules
> that memorize your key's signature and re-broadcast it when it receives
> a proper signal from the starter's main module. It lies dormant otherwise.
>

fair enough. but now i can capture the code from /that/ transmitter
instead and i /still/ don't need the key!
 >> Stay informed about: Honda Pilot EXL 2007 - remote start 

jim beam <spamvortex RemoveThis @bad.example.net> wrote in
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> random electron wrote:
>> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
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>>> "random electron" <fake RemoveThis @fake.net> wrote in message
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>>>> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in news:oW4mi.4$Kf1.0
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>>>>
>>>>> "random electron" <fake RemoveThis @fake.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns996D50464AEA3fakefakenet@140.99.99.130...
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the Pilot capable of remote start? If so, can it be activated?
>>>>> You have to install an auto-start unit first.
>>>> Thanks for the response. Can you tell me more?
>>> Unless you are asking for a step-by-step walkthrough of installing a
>>> unit, no, not really.
>>>
>>> You want to add a remote control starter to your car, you will have
>>> to buy an appropriate unit and install it. There are many makes and
>>> models.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> No, I'm not looking for a step by step. More precisely, I am
>> interested in adding OEM equipment. So if it were a matter of buying
>> the radio, or enabling a feature in the Honda computer or buying a
>> Honda key with a remote start button.... That's what I was really
>> looking for.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> remote start is not a great idea. engine wear is greatest when the
> engine is cold. remote start ensures the engine reaches operating
> temperature as slowly as possible - it's much better to start and
> drive away immediately as it minimizes the time at which the engine is
> operating cold. habitual use of remote start also increases the rate
> at which engine oil contaminates - for the same reason.
>
> if you're interested in remote start for climatic reasons, you're
> better off with a block heater and synthetic oil.
>
> oh, and remote start also requires you leave a key near the ignition
> sensor so the security chip can disarm the computer lock.
>

Thanks for your help and insight.
 >> Stay informed about: Honda Pilot EXL 2007 - remote start 

"jim beam" <spamvortex.TakeThisOut@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> Seth wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex.TakeThisOut@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:GdydnWA1I7NARAfbnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>>
>>> oh, and remote start also requires you leave a key near the ignition
>>> sensor so the security chip can disarm the computer lock.
>>
>>
>> This part hasn't been true in a long time (at least when dealing with a
>> decent brand and reputable shop). The better brands have add-on modules
>> that memorize your key's signature and re-broadcast it when it receives a
>> proper signal from the starter's main module. It lies dormant otherwise.
>
> fair enough. but now i can capture the code from /that/ transmitter
> instead and i /still/ don't need the key!


But how are you going to capture it from that transmitter? It only
transmits when told to by it's controller and it's short distance (you need
to be in the car, near the column, ready to receive when the auto-start is
triggered remotely).

Pretty small window of exposure as opposed to reading the original key
signature by brushing past the car owner as they walk away from the car.
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Seth wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex.DeleteThis@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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>> Seth wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex.DeleteThis@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> oh, and remote start also requires you leave a key near the ignition
>>>> sensor so the security chip can disarm the computer lock.
>>>
>>>
>>> This part hasn't been true in a long time (at least when dealing with
>>> a decent brand and reputable shop). The better brands have add-on
>>> modules that memorize your key's signature and re-broadcast it when
>>> it receives a proper signal from the starter's main module. It lies
>>> dormant otherwise.
>>
>> fair enough. but now i can capture the code from /that/ transmitter
>> instead and i /still/ don't need the key!
>
>
> But how are you going to capture it from that transmitter? It only
> transmits when told to by it's controller

if i can capture the key code, i'm /definitely/ capable of transmitting
the handshake that initiates it!

> and it's short distance (you
> need to be in the car, near the column, ready to receive when the
> auto-start is triggered remotely).
>
> Pretty small window of exposure as opposed to reading the original key
> signature by brushing past the car owner as they walk away from the car.
>

the point is, remote start leaves the tools of the job in the car. no
remote start means you need to access the driver instead - not something
most high tech car thieves are interested in doing.
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"jim beam" <spamvortex.DeleteThis@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> Seth wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex.DeleteThis@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>> news:lb6dnUZ64f3qrgHbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>> Seth wrote:
>>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex.DeleteThis@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:GdydnWA1I7NARAfbnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> oh, and remote start also requires you leave a key near the ignition
>>>>> sensor so the security chip can disarm the computer lock.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This part hasn't been true in a long time (at least when dealing with a
>>>> decent brand and reputable shop). The better brands have add-on
>>>> modules that memorize your key's signature and re-broadcast it when it
>>>> receives a proper signal from the starter's main module. It lies
>>>> dormant otherwise.
>>>
>>> fair enough. but now i can capture the code from /that/ transmitter
>>> instead and i /still/ don't need the key!
>>
>>
>> But how are you going to capture it from that transmitter? It only
>> transmits when told to by it's controller
>
> if i can capture the key code, i'm /definitely/ capable of transmitting
> the handshake that initiates it!
>
>> and it's short distance (you need to be in the car, near the column,
>> ready to receive when the auto-start is triggered remotely).
>>
>> Pretty small window of exposure as opposed to reading the original key
>> signature by brushing past the car owner as they walk away from the car.
>>
>
> the point is, remote start leaves the tools of the job in the car. no
> remote start means you need to access the driver instead - not something
> most high tech car thieves are interested in doing.


They'd flatbed the car before going through the trouble you describe.
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Seth wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex.RemoveThis@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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>> Seth wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex.RemoveThis@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:lb6dnUZ64f3qrgHbnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>>> Seth wrote:
>>>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex.RemoveThis@bad.example.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:GdydnWA1I7NARAfbnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oh, and remote start also requires you leave a key near the
>>>>>> ignition sensor so the security chip can disarm the computer lock.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This part hasn't been true in a long time (at least when dealing
>>>>> with a decent brand and reputable shop). The better brands have
>>>>> add-on modules that memorize your key's signature and re-broadcast
>>>>> it when it receives a proper signal from the starter's main
>>>>> module. It lies dormant otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> fair enough. but now i can capture the code from /that/ transmitter
>>>> instead and i /still/ don't need the key!
>>>
>>>
>>> But how are you going to capture it from that transmitter? It only
>>> transmits when told to by it's controller
>>
>> if i can capture the key code, i'm /definitely/ capable of
>> transmitting the handshake that initiates it!
>>
>>> and it's short distance (you need to be in the car, near the column,
>>> ready to receive when the auto-start is triggered remotely).
>>>
>>> Pretty small window of exposure as opposed to reading the original
>>> key signature by brushing past the car owner as they walk away from
>>> the car.
>>>
>>
>> the point is, remote start leaves the tools of the job in the car. no
>> remote start means you need to access the driver instead - not
>> something most high tech car thieves are interested in doing.
>
>
> They'd flatbed the car before going through the trouble you describe.
>
that's common, but if i were a tech geek with a little code capture box,
it would take me literally seconds to retrieve the code. skeleton key,
code box, drive away. much easier than flatbed.
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