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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:24 am
Post subject: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear
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The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
out to fix it
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:27 am
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Forgot to mention, its a Manual Tranny. Also I meant it keeps dropping
down to Neutral randomly sometimes.
ChrisJ wrote:
> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>
> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
> out to fix it
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:27 am
Post subject: Re: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Forgot to mention, its a Manual Tranny. Also I meant it keeps dropping
down to Neutral randomly sometimes.
ChrisJ wrote:
> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>
> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
> out to fix it
>
>
> Thanks >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:27 am
Post subject: Re: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Forgot to mention, its a Manual Tranny. Also I meant it keeps dropping
down to Neutral randomly sometimes.
ChrisJ wrote:
> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>
> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
> out to fix it
>
>
> Thanks >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:27 am
Post subject: Re: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Forgot to mention, its a Manual Tranny. Also I meant it keeps dropping
down to Neutral randomly sometimes.
ChrisJ wrote:
> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>
> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
> out to fix it
>
>
> Thanks >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:37 am
Post subject: Re: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"ChrisJ" <welcomeback.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162542432.662358.13210@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Forgot to mention, its a Manual Tranny. Also I meant it keeps dropping
> down to Neutral randomly sometimes.
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> ChrisJ wrote:
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>> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
>> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
>> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
>> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
>> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
>> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
>> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
>> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>>
>> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
>> out to fix it
It could be because the gear is not not engaging fully.
Either because the g/lever, or the selector fork is not moving enough.
You don't give the mileage, but a 3rd alternative is that the dog clutch for
3rd gear is worn.
The last 2 possibilities would involve removing the g/box to fix.
The first might be finding and fixing something that is restricting the
movement of the g/lever itself.
Mike. >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:37 am
Post subject: Re: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"ChrisJ" <welcomeback.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162542432.662358.13210@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Forgot to mention, its a Manual Tranny. Also I meant it keeps dropping
> down to Neutral randomly sometimes.
>
> ChrisJ wrote:
>
>> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
>> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
>> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
>> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
>> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
>> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
>> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
>> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>>
>> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
>> out to fix it
It could be because the gear is not not engaging fully.
Either because the g/lever, or the selector fork is not moving enough.
You don't give the mileage, but a 3rd alternative is that the dog clutch for
3rd gear is worn.
The last 2 possibilities would involve removing the g/box to fix.
The first might be finding and fixing something that is restricting the
movement of the g/lever itself.
Mike. >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:37 am
Post subject: Re: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"ChrisJ" <welcomeback.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162542432.662358.13210@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Forgot to mention, its a Manual Tranny. Also I meant it keeps dropping
> down to Neutral randomly sometimes.
>
> ChrisJ wrote:
>
>> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
>> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
>> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
>> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
>> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
>> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
>> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
>> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>>
>> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
>> out to fix it
It could be because the gear is not not engaging fully.
Either because the g/lever, or the selector fork is not moving enough.
You don't give the mileage, but a 3rd alternative is that the dog clutch for
3rd gear is worn.
The last 2 possibilities would involve removing the g/box to fix.
The first might be finding and fixing something that is restricting the
movement of the g/lever itself.
Mike. >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:37 am
Post subject: Re: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"ChrisJ" <welcomeback.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162542432.662358.13210@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Forgot to mention, its a Manual Tranny. Also I meant it keeps dropping
> down to Neutral randomly sometimes.
>
> ChrisJ wrote:
>
>> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
>> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
>> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
>> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
>> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
>> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
>> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
>> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>>
>> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
>> out to fix it
It could be because the gear is not not engaging fully.
Either because the g/lever, or the selector fork is not moving enough.
You don't give the mileage, but a 3rd alternative is that the dog clutch for
3rd gear is worn.
The last 2 possibilities would involve removing the g/box to fix.
The first might be finding and fixing something that is restricting the
movement of the g/lever itself.
Mike. >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:16 am
Post subject: Re: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jumping out of gear can be a sign of a worn (broken) motor or transmission
mount, or it can be a fried transmission. I suppose there _could_ be an
issue with the linkage, but searching for the transmission mount should
discover such a malady. I suspect linkage problems would be noticable in
other ways too, and since you did not discuss any other symptoms, I tend to
discount linkage related problems.
"ChrisJ" <welcomeback.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162542278.693439.325200@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>
> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
> out to fix it
>
>
> Thanks
> >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:16 am
Post subject: Re: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jumping out of gear can be a sign of a worn (broken) motor or transmission
mount, or it can be a fried transmission. I suppose there _could_ be an
issue with the linkage, but searching for the transmission mount should
discover such a malady. I suspect linkage problems would be noticable in
other ways too, and since you did not discuss any other symptoms, I tend to
discount linkage related problems.
"ChrisJ" <welcomeback.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162542278.693439.325200@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>
> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
> out to fix it
>
>
> Thanks
> >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:16 am
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Jumping out of gear can be a sign of a worn (broken) motor or transmission
mount, or it can be a fried transmission. I suppose there _could_ be an
issue with the linkage, but searching for the transmission mount should
discover such a malady. I suspect linkage problems would be noticable in
other ways too, and since you did not discuss any other symptoms, I tend to
discount linkage related problems.
"ChrisJ" <welcomeback.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162542278.693439.325200@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>
> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
> out to fix it
>
>
> Thanks
> >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:16 am
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Jumping out of gear can be a sign of a worn (broken) motor or transmission
mount, or it can be a fried transmission. I suppose there _could_ be an
issue with the linkage, but searching for the transmission mount should
discover such a malady. I suspect linkage problems would be noticable in
other ways too, and since you did not discuss any other symptoms, I tend to
discount linkage related problems.
"ChrisJ" <welcomeback.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162542278.693439.325200@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
> When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
> random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
> seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
> other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
> means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
> it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
> the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
>
> Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
> out to fix it
>
>
> Thanks
> >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:22 am
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Got 102K on the clock.
I'm not sure what other problems should be noticeable, as of now all I
see is sometimes in 3rd and moving and it justs shunts back to neutral
by itsef.
It seems to happen sometimes, my guess is it would need for the gearbox
dropped out before I can know for sure. I'm not exactly sure what would
cause a worn or broken transmission mount, maybe cos I work my way down
the gears when braking??
I'm not sure whats involved, any ideas on how long/how much to fix the
problems you've suggested??
Thanks
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> Jumping out of gear can be a sign of a worn (broken) motor or transmission
> mount, or it can be a fried transmission. I suppose there _could_ be an
> issue with the linkage, but searching for the transmission mount should
> discover such a malady. I suspect linkage problems would be noticable in
> other ways too, and since you did not discuss any other symptoms, I tend to
> discount linkage related problems.
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> "ChrisJ" <welcomeback.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162542278.693439.325200@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
> > When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
> > random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
> > seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
> > other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
> > means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
> > it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
> > the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
> >
> > Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
> > out to fix it
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:22 am
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Got 102K on the clock.
I'm not sure what other problems should be noticeable, as of now all I
see is sometimes in 3rd and moving and it justs shunts back to neutral
by itsef.
It seems to happen sometimes, my guess is it would need for the gearbox
dropped out before I can know for sure. I'm not exactly sure what would
cause a worn or broken transmission mount, maybe cos I work my way down
the gears when braking??
I'm not sure whats involved, any ideas on how long/how much to fix the
problems you've suggested??
Thanks
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> Jumping out of gear can be a sign of a worn (broken) motor or transmission
> mount, or it can be a fried transmission. I suppose there _could_ be an
> issue with the linkage, but searching for the transmission mount should
> discover such a malady. I suspect linkage problems would be noticable in
> other ways too, and since you did not discuss any other symptoms, I tend to
> discount linkage related problems.
>
>
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> "ChrisJ" <welcomeback DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162542278.693439.325200@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > The E39 520 seems to have suddenly started disliking the 3rd gear.
> > When driving, and shift to 3rd, half the time after driving for a
> > random amount of time, the gear will simply drop back to manual. This
> > seems to happen especially when slow driving. It doesn't happen in any
> > other gear position. Also resting my hand on the gear stick in 3rd
> > means it will randomly drop out of 3rd and I find that I can easily get
> > it out of 3rd without depressing the cluth by just gently pulling on
> > the lever. Again this doesn't happen in any other gear position.
> >
> > Anyone know of this problem, how to fix it and what i'm looking to lay
> > out to fix it
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > >> Stay informed about: E39 keeps jumping out of 3rd gear |
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