E39 2.8i stalling when hot query

"drd" <drd RemoveThis @CITYZOO.COM> wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> I've searched on this but can only find vague references to possible crank
> sensor failure from 2002 ...
>
> Any more recent thoughts on this?
>
> Symptoms are stalling when hot both on coastdown and idling in stationary
> traffic ... you can see and feel it losing control of idle speed and it
> evetually loses it and it dies - recently its been reluactant to restart
> also ...
>
> tia
>
> Dr D
>

Vapour lock in the fuel lines?

Check routing or for exhaust leak.
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave.RemoveThis@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <dtOli.35044$_14.347@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,
> drd <drd.RemoveThis@CITYZOO.COM> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>
>> I've searched on this but can only find vague references to possible
>> crank sensor failure from 2002 ...
>
>> Any more recent thoughts on this?
>
>> Symptoms are stalling when hot both on coastdown and idling in
>> stationary traffic ... you can see and feel it losing control of idle
>> speed and it evetually loses it and it dies - recently its been
>> reluactant to restart also ...
>
> When mine failed it was also very 'flat' pulling away from rest after
> re-starting. However, it threw up a code showing the crank sensor to be at
> fault so it's worth checking. It's a fairly easy DIY job to fit a new one,
> and it cost me about 50 gbp. So may be worth just changing it if you have
> to pay a similar amount to have the codes read.
>
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> Dave Plowman dave.RemoveThis@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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aha - s'funny you say that coz I recently posted about a flat spot which I
put down to a failing vanos unit but perhaps I should look at the crank
sensor first ...

I am loathed to pay main dealer costs for a 10year old car ... can
independant types read codes etc these days?
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"drd" wrote
> I am loathed to pay main dealer costs for a 10year old car ... can
> independant types read codes etc these days?

If they specialize in BMW/euro cars, they usually can.

If you post where you're from, someone may be able to even recommend a good
indy shop near you.

Pete
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In article <9tQli.23613$uR5.8772@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>,
drd <drd.DeleteThis@CITYZOO.COM> wrote:
> > When mine failed it was also very 'flat' pulling away from rest after
> > re-starting. However, it threw up a code showing the crank sensor to
> > be at fault so it's worth checking. It's a fairly easy DIY job to fit
> > a new one, and it cost me about 50 gbp. So may be worth just changing
> > it if you have to pay a similar amount to have the codes read.

> aha - s'funny you say that coz I recently posted about a flat spot which
> I put down to a failing vanos unit but perhaps I should look at the
> crank sensor first ...

> I am loathed to pay main dealer costs for a 10year old car ... can
> independant types read codes etc these days?

I dunno - I have a Peake code reader.

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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:32:53 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave.RemoveThis@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I am loathed to pay main dealer costs for a 10year old car ... can
>> independant types read codes etc these days?
>
>I dunno - I have a Peake code reader.

So do I. With the adapter for the serial connector-looking under-dash
OBD as well as the circular connector on the engine.

Mine works fine on a 1991 e30 and a 2001 e39. It will also reset
codes. I think the code reader and the extra OBD2 cable were about
$100 or so.
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"Pete" <nouser.RemoveThis@nodomain.com> wrote in message
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>
> "drd" wrote
>> I am loathed to pay main dealer costs for a 10year old car ... can
>> independant types read codes etc these days?
>
> If they specialize in BMW/euro cars, they usually can.
>
> If you post where you're from, someone may be able to even recommend a
> good indy shop near you.
>
> Pete
>
>
doh ...

I'm near Brighton, UK.

and a recommendation for a decent gargage would be most welcome ...
atb
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:53:16 GMT, "drd" <drd DeleteThis @CITYZOO.COM> wrote:

>
>"Pete" <nouser DeleteThis @nodomain.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "drd" wrote
>>> I am loathed to pay main dealer costs for a 10year old car ... can
>>> independant types read codes etc these days?
>>
>> If they specialize in BMW/euro cars, they usually can.
>>
>> If you post where you're from, someone may be able to even recommend a
>> good indy shop near you.
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>doh ...
>
>I'm near Brighton, UK.
>
>and a recommendation for a decent gargage would be most welcome ...
>atb
>
There must be some in Brighton but I have used

Auto-Tecnik
Fort Wallington Ind Est
Fareham
Hants
PO16 8TT

01329 823550

Subsidiary of SNOWS BMW Main Dealer in Portsmouth and their body-shop.

I have also used:

E-Tech Motorsport Ltd
Unit 4 The Tanneries
Brockhampton Lane
Havant
PO9 1JB
023 9247 8300

Independent BMW specialists.

My local garage/repair shop owner has several BMWs himself (X5 Diesel - M5 and
an M3) and I sometimes used him especially when jobs deed doing for MOT - He
offers cut-price MOT whether you are a regular or not.
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave DeleteThis @davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <dtOli.35044$_14.347@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,
> drd <drd DeleteThis @CITYZOO.COM> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>
>> I've searched on this but can only find vague references to possible
>> crank sensor failure from 2002 ...
>
>> Any more recent thoughts on this?
>
>> Symptoms are stalling when hot both on coastdown and idling in
>> stationary traffic ... you can see and feel it losing control of idle
>> speed and it evetually loses it and it dies - recently its been
>> reluactant to restart also ...
>
> When mine failed it was also very 'flat' pulling away from rest after
> re-starting. However, it threw up a code showing the crank sensor to be at
> fault so it's worth checking. It's a fairly easy DIY job to fit a new one,
> and it cost me about 50 gbp. So may be worth just changing it if you have
> to pay a similar amount to have the codes read.
>
> --
aha - I had the codes read at my local garage and indeed the crank sensor is
"impausible or missing" ... A quick blast to my local GSF provided a new one
for about £50 and I shall fit it tomorrow ...

I understand the sensor picks up from the front pulley but it was not
visible from on top - does it need to come off from underneath?

atb

Steve
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In article <CZRmi.39260$ri2.10094@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>,
drd <drd.DeleteThis@CITYZOO.COM> wrote:
> > When mine failed it was also very 'flat' pulling away from rest after
> > re-starting. However, it threw up a code showing the crank sensor to
> > be at fault so it's worth checking. It's a fairly easy DIY job to fit
> > a new one, and it cost me about 50 gbp. So may be worth just changing
> > it if you have to pay a similar amount to have the codes read.
> >
> > --
> aha - I had the codes read at my local garage and indeed the crank
> sensor is "impausible or missing" ... A quick blast to my local GSF
> provided a new one for about £50 and I shall fit it tomorrow ...

> I understand the sensor picks up from the front pulley but it was not
> visible from on top - does it need to come off from underneath?

It can be done from the top - take off the fan shroud and fan/coupling.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave.RemoveThis@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <CZRmi.39260$ri2.10094@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>,
> drd <drd.RemoveThis@CITYZOO.COM> wrote:
>> > When mine failed it was also very 'flat' pulling away from rest after
>> > re-starting. However, it threw up a code showing the crank sensor to
>> > be at fault so it's worth checking. It's a fairly easy DIY job to fit
>> > a new one, and it cost me about 50 gbp. So may be worth just changing
>> > it if you have to pay a similar amount to have the codes read.
>> >
>> > --
>> aha - I had the codes read at my local garage and indeed the crank
>> sensor is "impausible or missing" ... A quick blast to my local GSF
>> provided a new one for about £50 and I shall fit it tomorrow ...
>
>> I understand the sensor picks up from the front pulley but it was not
>> visible from on top - does it need to come off from underneath?
>
> It can be done from the top - take off the fan shroud and fan/coupling.
>
one minute to locate and undo the sensor bolt (it's just under the bottom
hose at engine end)

30 minutes to clear enough engine bay debris to access where the sensor plug
joins the loom and unthread the cable ! Remove front lifting eye, oil
filter cover, breather hose, beauty cover and two fiddly c-clips holding the
cable shield across the front of the engine ...

it runs a LOT smoother and quicker and no stalling yet ...

thanks all

Steve
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In article <bx5ni.34053$nE2.21646@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>, drd
<drd RemoveThis @CITYZOO.COM> wrote:
> > It can be done from the top - take off the fan shroud and fan/coupling.
> >
> one minute to locate and undo the sensor bolt (it's just under the
> bottom hose at engine end)

> 30 minutes to clear enough engine bay debris to access where the sensor
> plug joins the loom and unthread the cable ! Remove front lifting eye,
> oil filter cover, breather hose, beauty cover and two fiddly c-clips
> holding the cable shield across the front of the engine ...

Yes - plugging it in is the awkward part. Probably easier with small hands
- like many of these jobs.

> it runs a LOT smoother and quicker and no stalling yet ...

Hopefully sorted.

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