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Steve50

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:22 am
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Had an intermittent starting problem on my 96 E320. It would crank but not
start. I would let it sit and it would eventually start. Now, it cranks
but doesn't start at all. Noticed it on Friday, and it didn't start all
weekend, or this morning (Monday). Since there could be multiple issues on
why it won't start, does anyone know where to start? I would assume any of
the fuel system parts from the pump, pressure regulator, injectors, and on
down the line.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:50 am
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I owned a '97 and had this happen: I installed a new battery and all was
fine for about 9 months. Then one day I turned the key but didn't hear
the fuel pump run for the usual one second prior to cranking the motor.
I immediately knew the motor wouldn't start - and it didn't. But why no
fuel pump?

Turned out that the new battery had leaked and acid not only corroded
but disconnected the "christmas tree" of added-on wire connectors on the
battery's positive terminal. The fuel pump was one of these corrosion
disconnected wires yet the main connection was OK and therefore the
engine still cranked!

So another new battery and soaking the corrosion damaged connectors in
baking soda and water cleaned up the mess, a new 6 mm clamping bolt in a
new "on bolt clamps all" arrangement lieu of the 8 mm original and it
was fixed.

So take a look at the car's battery before attacking the engine.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:55 am
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I agree with TG... change the battery first. Pick up a cheap one at
Autozone... comes with 7 years warranty.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:39 am
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"-->> T.G. Lambach <<--" <"T.G. Lambach at NoHamorSpamcomcast.net"> wrote
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> I owned a '97 and had this happen: I installed a new battery and all was
> fine for about 9 months. Then one day I turned the key but didn't hear
> the fuel pump run for the usual one second prior to cranking the motor.
> I immediately knew the motor wouldn't start - and it didn't. But why no
> fuel pump?
>
> Turned out that the new battery had leaked and acid not only corroded
> but disconnected the "christmas tree" of added-on wire connectors on the
> battery's positive terminal. The fuel pump was one of these corrosion
> disconnected wires yet the main connection was OK and therefore the
> engine still cranked!
>
> So another new battery and soaking the corrosion damaged connectors in
> baking soda and water cleaned up the mess, a new 6 mm clamping bolt in a
> new "on bolt clamps all" arrangement lieu of the 8 mm original and it
> was fixed.
>
> So take a look at the car's battery before attacking the engine.


I just changed the battery just 3 months ago, and didn't see any corrosion.
But I'll check again. I do hear the fuel pump run before I try to start
it.

Funny thing, after 3 days of not starting, I got a OBDII code reader from a
friend that owns a Mercedes garage (no check engine light on, but just
wanted to see if it picked up anything), and not codes came up. I figure I
would try it again, and it fired up. My Mercedes mechanic friend thinks
since there are no error codes, fuel pump works, could be the computer
itself. He said he has seen them go up. The car has 200k on it.

Even though it fired up, I tried it about 10 more times. Half of those
times it cranks for a few seconds, then gives me a clunking noise before it
starts. (Also, I just replaced the alternator 2 weeks ago because of a
previous issue).

Any other thoughts?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:15 am
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it cranks for a few seconds, then gives me a clunking noise before it
starts



Please elaborate on this "clunking noise". Is the motor sputtering and
misfiring before it starts or is the noise mechanical?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:24 pm
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How about overload protection relay... this would cause non-start too. I'd
go to part counter and see if any of those guys are helpful on this
symptoms...

Another possibiltiy is the crank position sensor... I would bet on this over
the OVP (above) as you are not getting an error code.
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chizel




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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:13 pm
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get the broken part replaced or repaired. consult your car's manual for other specific problems you might be facing. this will help to speed up diagnosis.
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colt450




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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:19 am
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Does the light in your
http://www.eurobzparts.com/mercedes-benz-glow-plug/ (Mercedes Benz glow plug) working? It serves to produce heat and it maybe the one thing to be replaced.
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