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grandad




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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:58 am
Post subject: E320 CDi 1999 gear selection & display problem

Sad My E320 has defaulted to crippled mode.

It is not showing any automatic gear selection in the dashboard indicator and when you select D it only runs in first gear.

You can select R with slight difficulty (going back from D to P is slightly difficult)

Recently it stuck in P and had to be unlocked via the secret hole!

... the only other problem I noticed was that the cruise control did not always work on first start.

My engineer has fault codes 034 and 130 but is not sure what they are.

I note one fault code links the cruse control and brake switch is that a clue?

We did change the battery and that helped for a day ... but then it came back.

Help appreciated

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:57 pm
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Brake light switch disengages the cruise control - so when you step on
the brake the cruise is cut off.

If your "engineer" doesn't know what the codes mean you MUST find a
mechanic who does; these cars are too complicated and their parts too
expensive to play guessing games. Remember, it's YOUR money that buys
the wrong parts and pays for wasted labor.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:55 pm
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..... are you certain you have a 1999 CDI? These did not come to NA until
the early 2000's. Where did you get this car from?

cheers, guenter


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Take A Guess wrote:
>Brake light switch disengages the cruise control - so when you step on
>the brake the cruise is cut off.
>
>If your "engineer" doesn't know what the codes mean you MUST find a
>mechanic who does; these cars are too complicated and their parts too
>expensive to play guessing games. Remember, it's YOUR money that buys
>the wrong parts and pays for wasted labor.
>
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grandad




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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:47 am
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Thanks. Sound advice and on the case.

I was giving my local guy the chance to see if the problem was not too complex ... in the hands of MB specialist now.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:48 am
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:00 am
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LATEST INFORMATION:

New tests with more specific equipment indicate a value sticking in the gearbox

recommendation is a flush cleaner in the gearbox fluid and a change of fluid filter and fluid in the gearbox.

This was last done in 2002 at 64k miles so now at over 200k it is well overdue. Mercedes servicing in last few years has not done it!

Will keep you posted if this solves the problem
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:55 pm
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On 04.01.2007 20:25, grandad wrote:
> LATEST INFORMATION:
>
> New tests with more specific equipment indicate a value sticking in
> the gearbox
>
> recommendation is a flush cleaner in the gearbox fluid and a change of
> fluid filter and fluid in the gearbox.
>
> This was last done in 2002 at 64k miles so now at over 200k it is well
> overdue. Mercedes servicing in last few years has not done it!
>
> Will keep you posted if this solves the problem

Sorry to highjack the thread but I did not see a valid reply address...
Quick question, what fuel consumption do you have on average and what
driving do you mostly do? (city, long distance...) Thanks!

Kind regards

robert
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:28 am
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Fuel consumption very good around an overall 40 mpg

Do a mixture of short and long distance driving now ... prior to that a lot of long distance. 40k per year.

Car is now in what they call "crippled mode" ...will not go out of low gear, will not go over 30,000 revs ... this appears to be a defualt mode due to the selector/transmission problem.

Car running well and drivable within those limitations ...seems to be a get you home or to garage mode.

Confirm computer software shows transmission valve sticking and transmission fluid change/treatment possible solution ... this not worked.

MB dealer appears to be only option at present ... paying for a one way ticket to hell!!

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:55 am
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On 06.01.2007 19:24, grandad wrote:
> Fuel consumption very good around an overall 40 mpg

Really, that's under 6 liters on 100km - that's pretty good for such a
bug car!

> Do a mixture of short and long distance driving now ... prior to that
> a lot of long distance. 40k per year.

That's quite a bit (I assume 40k miles) - but then again "long distance"
in the US is typically longer than over here in Europe.

> Car is now in what they call "crippled mode" ...will not go out of
> low gear, will not go over 30,000 revs ... this appears to be a
> defualt mode due to the selector/transmission problem.

I hope it never goes above 30,000 revs - not even motorcycle engines go
beyond 20,000 so... I guess you had a zero too many - or don't you use
minute as reference (i.e. rpm)? Ah, all these different measuring unit
systems...

> MB dealer appears to be only option at present ... paying for a one
> way ticket to hell!!

I hope it's not a major overhaul.

> thank for your interest

Thanks for the detailed info!

Kind regards

robert
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:55 am
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"Robert Klemme" wrote in message

> On 06.01.2007 19:24, grandad wrote:
>> Fuel consumption very good around an overall 40 mpg
>
> Really, that's under 6 liters on 100km - that's pretty good for such a bug
> car!
>
>> Do a mixture of short and long distance driving now ... prior to that
>> a lot of long distance. 40k per year.
>
> That's quite a bit (I assume 40k miles) - but then again "long distance"
> in the US is typically longer than over here in Europe.
>
Was the 1999 E320 CDI sold in the US, I assume this was 40 miles per an
imperial gallon(4.54609 litres?). Still not bad at all.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:52 am
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:53 am
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:55 am
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"jdoe" wrote in message

> On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 11:20:30 GMT, "Me" wrote:
>
>>
>>"Robert Klemme" wrote in message
>>
>>> On 06.01.2007 19:24, grandad wrote:
>>>> Fuel consumption very good around an overall 40 mpg
>>>
>>> Really, that's under 6 liters on 100km - that's pretty good for such a
>>> bug
>>> car!
>>>
>>>> Do a mixture of short and long distance driving now ... prior to that
>>>> a lot of long distance. 40k per year.
>>>
>>> That's quite a bit (I assume 40k miles) - but then again "long distance"
>>> in the US is typically longer than over here in Europe.
>>>
>>Was the 1999 E320 CDI sold in the US, I assume this was 40 miles per an
>>imperial gallon(4.54609 litres?). Still not bad at all.
>>
> it's average, I can get 36+ mpg on long highway runs
On longish highway trips at moderate speed I've done 40 miles per US gallon
with a W210 E320CDI. With a W211 I6 E320CDI I've done better than 40 but for
an average of 7.2 litres per 100 km I've had a mix of driving "mostly"
highway (but an average over more than 20 000 km). Isn't this about 39 miles
per Imperial gallon, not actually far from the 40 (but my experience is that
a W211 drives with less than the W210 320CDI).
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:47 am
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Very Happy

Firstly, yes it was 3000 rpm cut off in the limp mode!

I get 40 miles per UK gallon overall, on a long Motoway (Freeway) trip up to 42 cruising at around 70 mph (our limit)

Fuel consumption has never been a problem.

Good news!!! and I take back some of what I said about MD dealers .... I took the car in limp mode into a new MB Dealer today .... 45 mins it was fixed .... Air Volume sensor replaced ... total cost around £120!!!

Car running very well again now. Seems that the engine goes into limp mode if key sensors fail ... don't see why this locked the gear-stick in the first place but all ok now

Thanks for all your interest
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:55 pm
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jdoe wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 11:49:08 +0100, Robert Klemme
> wrote:
>
>> On 06.01.2007 19:24, grandad wrote:
>>> Fuel consumption very good around an overall 40 mpg
>> Really, that's under 6 liters on 100km - that's pretty good for such a
>> bug car!
>>
>>> Do a mixture of short and long distance driving now ... prior to that
>>> a lot of long distance. 40k per year.
>> That's quite a bit (I assume 40k miles) - but then again "long distance"
>> in the US is typically longer than over here in Europe.
>>
> their, UK, gallon is larger than ours
Sorry about the lateness of this contribution but I have a similar car
and it has exhibited similar problems.

Sticking in P (relieved by pencil down secret hole) and cruise control
failure are both symptoms of one single and easily remedied fault: bad
electrical contact in the brake sensor. On my instruction my mechanic
applied contact cleaner to it and both problems went away. Didn't charge
me anything (wasn't MB mechanic, obviously).

I get long term average a little above 40mpg on mine and have once
observed 50mpg on a 250 mile run. This on a large car with acceleration
that can terrify your mother.
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