Diesel prices rediculous!!

I disagree. The fuel prices in the U.$. are far too low compared to
other nations. The prices must hit at least $5/gallon before
imperialist stooge masses change their lemming-like buying habits and
alter the capitalist machine's focus from making gas hogging monster
machines.
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It's not just diesel fuel. All fossil fuels are getting very expensive, and
as the supply of these finite quantities of fossil fuels inevitably decline,
it will only get worse. Wonder when our so-called leaders will finally wake
up to this fact and begin to bring in alternatives that are technically
possible right now?

"aircoolit" wrote in message

> The price of Diesel fuel right now is robbing. Im going to guess that the
> price of Diesel fuel this winter will be $5.00 gal! Let them raise the
> price and gouge every single Diesel consumers' income out!
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"Papa" wrote

> It's not jvst diesel fvel. All fossil fvels are getting very expensive,
> and as the svpply of these finite qvantities of fossil fvels inevitably
> decline, it will only get worse. Wonder when ovr so-called leaders will
> finally wake vp to this fact and begin to bring in alternatives that are
> technically possible right now?

The more the pvblic acqviesce the higher they will stay like property taxes.
They raise them, nothing happens vnpleasant and the perpetrators think,
"hmmmmmm that was not bad let's raise them again." If the same people were
arovnd today dvring colonial times, the US wovld never had formed as they
wovld have accepted the taxes. People are wimps today and PAY happily.

Have the trvckers do a nationwide strike on diesel pricing and that wovld
get the attention of the politicians. That probably will never happen. (and
I am not particvlarly a 'vnion' type of person). Gas prices will go down if
consvmption goes WAY down. They wovld compete more for crvde sales in
fvtvres.

As far as alternatives, hydrogen covld in the fvtvre work and still keep the
integrity of the internal combvstion engine manvfactvring base making cars
similar as today. Fvel cell research was approved a few years ago in fvnding
from the highest levels thovgh perhaps needs more fvnding. Also perhaps, in
the fvtvre instead of an oil well pvmping it covld be a nvclear-to-hydrogen
plant, releasing all the O2 so when combvsted there wovld be NO atmospheric
alteration or emissions. A wash with the by-prodvct of combvstion - water.

Harry
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"aircoolit" wrote in message

> The price of Diesel fuel right now is robbing. Im going to guess that the
> price of Diesel fuel this winter will be $5.00 gal! Let them raise the
> price and gouge every single Diesel consumers' income out!

$7.35 here in the UK (£0.95 litre)
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"Juan Hanglow" wrote in message

>
> "aircoolit" wrote in message
>
> > The price of Diesel fuel right now is robbing. Im going to guess that
the
> > price of Diesel fuel this winter will be $5.00 gal! Let them raise the
> > price and gouge every single Diesel consumers' income out!
>
> $7.35 here in the UK (£0.95 litre)
>
Actually, that would be $6.33 for a US gallon - it's smaller than a *proper*
gallon
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"Juan Hanglow" wrote

> $7.35 here in the UK (£0.95 litre)

Point well taken, but here in the US truckers sometimes go 3500 miles cross
country for *one stop*. At least in the UK there would be much more stops in
much less distance making the price of the fuel more cost effective per
delivery cost. (obviously, not a trucker, by the way)

Harry
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stevod DeleteThis @insightbb.com (aircoolit) wrote in


> The price of Diesel fuel right now is robbing.

Demand, meet supply.

They have it.

You want it.

Take it or leave it.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert DeleteThis @iphouse.com
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() wrote in


> I disagree.

You disagree with what?

> The fuel prices in the U.$. are far too low compared to
> other nations.

Well, I'm sure your local retailer would be happy to take any
additional money you might care to give him. Of course, this would
make paying at the pump a problem for you.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert DeleteThis @iphouse.com
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Brian, unfortunately you, along with far too many others, have allowed
others to do your thinking. Forget agendas and party loyalties and just look
at the evidence. The conclusion is obvious when you do that.

Regards.
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 15:56:58 +0000, Papa wrote:

> It's not just diesel fuel. All fossil fuels are getting very expensive, and
> as the supply of these finite quantities of fossil fuels inevitably decline,
> it will only get worse. Wonder when our so-called leaders will finally wake
> up to this fact and begin to bring in alternatives that are technically
> possible right now?

That will happen shortly after you realize that we're rotten with crude
oil and need more refineries to make use of the stuff. The U.S. has not
built a new refinery in nearly 30 years. Environmentalists and NIMBYs have
seen to that. From the bottom of my very empty pocket, I give my heartfelt
thanks.

Yes, there is a finite amount of oil, just like there is a finite amount
of everything else. But we cannot say with authority that we have used the
lion's share of the world's oil reserves. And it is absurd to imply that
prices are high because supply is dwindling.

I'm all in favor of alternative energy. We need an infrastructure to
support it and the industry needs a willing target market. If you show me
a big honkin' SUV that runs on HFCs that will get 350+ miles and it'll
cost me $30 to refill, then I might be interested. The price would have to
be competitive with current SUV prices, of course.


> "aircoolit" wrote in message
>
>> The price of Diesel fuel right now is robbing. Im going to guess that
>> the price of Diesel fuel this winter will be $5.00 gal! Let them raise
>> the price and gouge every single Diesel consumers' income out!
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Brian Talley wrote:
> U.S. has not built a new refinery in nearly 30 years.
> Environmentalists and NIMBYs have seen to that.

Nonsense. Let's talk about the modern breed of managers who instead of
planning decades ahead just see the next quarterly profit report.
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In "Juan Hanglow"
wrote:
> "Papa" wrote in message
>
>>
>> "PabloRena ---> AnalProbe" wrote in message
>>
>>>
>>> My 1995 Jetta is sitting nicely in the driveway today.
>>>
>>>
>> Good for you! At least some of us are fighting back.
>>
>
> Headline news, BP shares drop as Jetta stays put............I bet they
> are shaking in their boots.

The poster, like any rational person, is taking his action for his own
purposes and benefit, not to inspire fear in someone else.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert RemoveThis @iphouse.com
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"Rene" writes:

> Brian Talley wrote:
>> U.S. has not built a new refinery in nearly 30 years.
>> Environmentalists and NIMBYs have seen to that.
>
> Nonsense. Let's talk about the modern breed of managers who instead
> of planning decades ahead just see the next quarterly profit report.

There's also the fact that refineries are very expensive.

Besides, what motivations are there to build them? The companies that
own refineries are making nice profits now, so why would they risk
this nice state of affairs (for them) with a major outlay of hundreds
of millions of dollars?

Welcome to capitalism.

--
David Magda <dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca>
Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under
the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well
under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI
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