Diesel and heating oil?

I found a statement released by the Consumer Energy Council of America,
which states:

Q: What is the difference between diesel fuel and home heating oil?

A: Home heating oil and transportation diesel are chemically identical, but
in the refinery they are processed in slightly different ways for their
respective sectors. In addition to having specified regulations and taxes,
transportation diesel has a low sulfur standard, meaning that it must
contain 0.05 percent sulfur or less. Home heating oil is required by law to
contain a maximum of 0.5 percent sulfur, but due to unintentional mixing of
transportation diesel and home heating oil at the refinery, the sulfur
content of home heating oil usually hovers around 0.2 percent. In order to
distinguish home heating oil from transportation diesel, the refiner will
typically dye heating oil a cranberry color, but otherwise these fuels are
the same.

END OF QUOTE

I'm not sure as to whether or not the above statement is true. It is
certainly worth verifying.

Regards.
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D&LBusch wrote:
> What exactly will happen if I try and use my home heating oil to
> power my 2000 Jetta Diesel?

Besides breaking the law, you could run into some mechanical problems.
The two are very similar but there are differences. I would guess that most
of the time it would work. How lucky do you feel?

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit
 >> Stay informed about: Diesel and heating oil? 

"Papa" wroteIn order to

> distinguish home heating oil from transportation diesel, the refiner will
> typically dye heating oil a cranberry color, but otherwise these fuels are
> the same.

They put red dye in "off road diesel" too. In some States however unlikely,
if you get caught with the dyed stuff somehow, either being checked or by an
accident, it is a humongous fine like 10 Grand. At my local station off
road diesel that is dyed red is about 30 ro 40 cents a gallon cheaper than
diesel but no transportation taxes paid on it like the full Diesel.

One could conceivably I guess, sneak in with fuel containers and buy off
road and then put it the diesel auto in but it is taking a chance and
illegal.

Harry
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I'm all for using heating oil, but I think filtering its the problem, and
not worth the trouble involved unless your using enough to make it worth
while, say 100 gallons a month, and I wouldn,t even dream of putting it in a
finicky TDI's fuel pump thats already pushed to the limit by high fuel
pressures, and is using diesel as an internal lubricant. You would be
better off setting up a "REAL" biodiesel setup for 2-3 grand , and getting
primo diesel, but its not cost effective either unless youre using 100
gallons or so a month and can get the oil free. If I had a big diesel pickup
truck and wanted to drive around all day at 10 mpg.....Well, thats
something else, but a VW getting 40-50 mpg.. It just kills the idea
altogether..
"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message

> D&LBusch wrote:
>> What exactly will happen if I try and use my home heating oil to
>> power my 2000 Jetta Diesel?
>
> Besides breaking the law, you could run into some mechanical problems.
> The two are very similar but there are differences. I would guess that
> most of the time it would work. How lucky do you feel?
>
> --
> Joseph Meehan
>
> Dia duit
>
 >> Stay informed about: Diesel and heating oil? 

Farmers get off road fuel , and thats why they love diesel cars and trucks,
theres no tax on farmers fuel. used in their personal vehicles..
"Harry" wrote in message

> "Papa" wroteIn order to
>
>> distinguish home heating oil from transportation diesel, the refiner will
>> typically dye heating oil a cranberry color, but otherwise these fuels
>> are the same.
>
> They put red dye in "off road diesel" too. In some States however
> unlikely, if you get caught with the dyed stuff somehow, either being
> checked or by an accident, it is a humongous fine like 10 Grand. At my
> local station off road diesel that is dyed red is about 30 ro 40 cents a
> gallon cheaper than diesel but no transportation taxes paid on it like the
> full Diesel.
>
> One could conceivably I guess, sneak in with fuel containers and buy off
> road and then put it the diesel auto in but it is taking a chance and
> illegal.
>
> Harry
>
>
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The best argument of all.... The current dealer list price on a 2000 TDI
diesel injector pump is over 3200 bucks U.S. Makes me want to put heating
oil in it..
"none2u" wrote in message

> I'm all for using heating oil, but I think filtering its the problem,
> and not worth the trouble involved unless your using enough to make it
> worth while, say 100 gallons a month, and I wouldn,t even dream of putting
> it in a finicky TDI's fuel pump thats already pushed to the limit by high
> fuel pressures, and is using diesel as an internal lubricant. You would
> be better off setting up a "REAL" biodiesel setup for 2-3 grand , and
> getting primo diesel, but its not cost effective either unless youre using
> 100 gallons or so a month and can get the oil free. If I had a big diesel
> pickup truck and wanted to drive around all day at 10 mpg.....Well, thats
> something else, but a VW getting 40-50 mpg.. It just kills the idea
> altogether..
> "Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
>
>> D&LBusch wrote:
>>> What exactly will happen if I try and use my home heating oil to
>>> power my 2000 Jetta Diesel?
>>
>> Besides breaking the law, you could run into some mechanical problems.
>> The two are very similar but there are differences. I would guess that
>> most of the time it would work. How lucky do you feel?
>>
>> --
>> Joseph Meehan
>>
>> Dia duit
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Diesel and heating oil? 

"D&LBusch" wrote in message

> What exactly will happen if I try and use my home heating oil to power my
> 2000 Jetta Diesel?
>
>

Can't say what might happen with a TDI, but I have done it plenty of times
on older diesels with no notable problems. My understanding is that the
major difference is the dye. If you run a trucking company, or have trucks
moving non-road taxed diesel you may be checked for the proper color/tax
diesel...but in close to a million miles of driving diesel passenger cars in
the US, no one has ever checked to see what color fuel I was running. There
was a while where I had a place where the home heating oil tank was right in
the garage, and I ran my 79 diesel on nothing but heating oil for a couple
of years.
--
Tony Bad
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02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)
 >> Stay informed about: Diesel and heating oil? 

Another difference is that diesel fuel has additives to:

(a) prevent gelling in cold weather
(b) lubricate the injection pump and injectors

It's the second one that would give me pause, given how expensive injection
pumps are.


"D&LBusch" wrote in message

> What exactly will happen if I try and use my home heating oil to power my
> 2000 Jetta Diesel?
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Diesel and heating oil? 

In article , "Tony Bad" wrote:
>
>"D&LBusch" wrote in message
>
>> What exactly will happen if I try and use my home heating oil to power my
>> 2000 Jetta Diesel?
>>
>>
>
>Can't say what might happen with a TDI, but I have done it plenty of times
>on older diesels with no notable problems. My understanding is that the
>major difference is the dye. If you run a trucking company, or have trucks
>moving non-road taxed diesel you may be checked for the proper color/tax
>diesel...but in close to a million miles of driving diesel passenger cars in
>the US, no one has ever checked to see what color fuel I was running. There
>was a while where I had a place where the home heating oil tank was right in
>the garage, and I ran my 79 diesel on nothing but heating oil for a couple
>of years.

I work right on the waterfront in Portland Maine, where there are lots of
fisherman who love to put off-road untaxed diesel in their cars. The State
Police do fuel checks several times a year where they put up a road block and
dip the tanks on all diesel vehicles. When I had my Peugeots and TDI I was
checked several times. And as a previous poster pointed out, the fine starts
at $10000....

Kevin Rhodes
Westbrook, Maine
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"Kevin Rhodes" wrote in message

>
> I work right on the waterfront in Portland Maine, where there are lots of
> fisherman who love to put off-road untaxed diesel in their cars. The State
> Police do fuel checks several times a year where they put up a road block
and
> dip the tanks on all diesel vehicles. When I had my Peugeots and TDI I was
> checked several times. And as a previous poster pointed out, the fine
starts
> at $10000....
>
> Kevin Rhodes
> Westbrook, Maine

That is what I was trying to say (but didn't very well)...if you are someone
who is likely to be checked because of a work situation, it certainly isn't
worth the risk. I do not fit that profile, and have never been checked in
almost 30 years of driving diesel cars.

--
Tony Bad
--------------

02 Jetta Wagon
01 Eurovan MV
91 Jetta 1.6 Diesel
86 Jetta
79 Rabbit 1.5 Diesel (semi-retired for now)
Schwinn Continental 10 Speed
Radio Flyer Pedal Car (my daughter made me add this)
 >> Stay informed about: Diesel and heating oil?