Diesel fuel prices

In article ,
Paul L. Hidey wrote:
>I don't know if this has been discussed before, but could someone in the
>know, explain why deisel fuel is so insanely high? And why the
>professional truck driver's and the railroads, aren't screaming their
>brains out? It's driving the price of everything we use out of reach!
>Thank you ,
>PH

Stop bitching like a little girl. In Europe diesel is now close to $7 a
gallon.

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"Paul L. Hidey" wrote in message

>I don't know if this has been discussed before, but could someone in the
>know, explain why deisel fuel is so insanely high? And why the professional
>truck driver's and the railroads, aren't screaming their brains out? It's
>driving the price of everything we use out of reach!
> Thank you ,
> PH

Its certainly cheaper ot make diesel compared to gasoline of any grade. At
least according to a local educational TV channel I recently viewed a
program about similar. If true, its either supply/demand thing, or
someone's or someones' making a fortune for no apparent reason than control
of the market. Or both, the former an interim excuse for the latter.
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Jonny
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"Peter Parker" wrote in message

> In article ,
> Paul L. Hidey wrote:
>>I don't know if this has been discussed before, but could someone in the
>>know, explain why deisel fuel is so insanely high? And why the
>>professional truck driver's and the railroads, aren't screaming their
>>brains out? It's driving the price of everything we use out of reach!
>>Thank you ,
>>PH
>
> Stop bitching like a little girl. In Europe diesel is now close to $7 a
> gallon.
>
> --
> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...


Europe is very generic term. Prices vary not only from country to country,
but also region to region with a country. At least that was my resulting
viewpoint after my 20 year military tour and many visits to many European
countries.

Gender specific put-down not needed irregardless. But, apparently, that's
all you got to substantiate.
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Jonny
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PH:

I know what you mean. I remember when diesel hit 99 cents a gallon and
all the independent truckers went on strike and parked their trucks in
protest. Now we don't hear a thing at 3 times that price. Maybe we
have all been brainwashed by the news media into expecting/accepting
higher prices just because of world events? Crude oil prices certainly
play a major role in fuel pricing, but there are profit yield
activities going on the really piss me off. Like buying gas at $2.95
one afternoon, and the next day it is $2.83! And then the next morning
it is $3.05! We use to see prices barely move weeks at a time!
Profiteering pure and simple. Until we find an alternative, it will
continue because we love our cars. Go read the book, "Who Killed the
Electric Car". Very telling.

TEMiller
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Paul L. Hidey wrote:
> I don't know if this has been discussed before, but could someone in
> the know, explain why deisel fuel is so insanely high?

Describe insanely high. Do you mean like the over 1,000,000,000 the CEO
of Exxon got for retirement?

Do you mean in the last few weeks, months years? In what part of the
world? Compared to gasoline or what?

Have you noticed that wars always increase the price of oil.

You should be seeing a very small increase in the price of diesel in the
US do to the change over to the newer clean ULSD fuels that are now coming
on line.

> And why the
> professional truck driver's and the railroads, aren't screaming their
> brains out? It's driving the price of everything we use out of reach!
> Thank you ,
> PH



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Peter Parker wrote:
> In article ,
> Paul L. Hidey wrote:
>> I don't know if this has been discussed before, but could someone in the
>> know, explain why deisel fuel is so insanely high? And why the
>> professional truck driver's and the railroads, aren't screaming their
>> brains out? It's driving the price of everything we use out of reach!
>> Thank you ,
>> PH
>
> Stop bitching like a little girl. In Europe diesel is now close to $7 a
> gallon.

Do we have to have *this* discussion again?

- A large portion of the price of fuel in Europe is set by taxes

- The nations of Europe are democracies

Therefore: If the people of Europe really wanted more reasonable fuel
prices, they could have them. (Of course, they'd have have to bear the
cost somewhere else, either in higher income/VAT/other taxes, or in
reduced government spending.)

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Mike Smith
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It's called greed. Technically, diesel should be cheaper because the process
of preparing it is less extensive.

As far as truck drivers not complaining, that seems to be the pattern these
days. Very few have the gumption to publicly speak up on any issue.
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Gas stations know exactly how many people get gas by every hour , every day.
They monitor the trends, and transactions. including when masses of people
leave work sites nearby. Or get their welfare checks. They raise their
prices when there's more demand to get more profits. And drop them when
demands low to try and induce someone to come in who's driving by. Its not
illegal. Its business management. If you actually watch the prices at least
weekly, you can see the patterns. Here's a few. Prices go up when welfare
checks arrive. when local large businesses let out . (shifts change.)
Paydays, Early 6-9 AM 4-6 Pm , going to and from work. Holidays, weekends,
special events. Road construction detours, Anytime traffic is projected to
increase. Its going up. If its projected to decrease , its going down.
Still supply and demand in effect, on a different scale.
"Corrado Daddy" wrote in message

> PH:
>
> I know what you mean. I remember when diesel hit 99 cents a gallon and
> all the independent truckers went on strike and parked their trucks in
> protest. Now we don't hear a thing at 3 times that price. Maybe we
> have all been brainwashed by the news media into expecting/accepting
> higher prices just because of world events? Crude oil prices certainly
> play a major role in fuel pricing, but there are profit yield
> activities going on the really piss me off. Like buying gas at $2.95
> one afternoon, and the next day it is $2.83! And then the next morning
> it is $3.05! We use to see prices barely move weeks at a time!
> Profiteering pure and simple. Until we find an alternative, it will
> continue because we love our cars. Go read the book, "Who Killed the
> Electric Car". Very telling.
>
> TEMiller
>
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Papa wrote:
> It's called greed. Technically, diesel should be cheaper because the process
> of preparing it is less extensive.
>
> As far as truck drivers not complaining, that seems to be the pattern these
> days. Very few have the gumption to publicly speak up on any issue.

I don't think that is right anymore, today's diesel fuel is at a
completely different level then it was 10 years ago. The sulphur
contents have gone down, they added lubricity additives to compensate
for the absence of sulphur and anti-foam additives are allso added.

More and more companies offer special diesel fuel like Shell V-power
Diesel for instance, it contains a (I don't know the percentage) part
synthetic diesel which is created from natural gas.

A modern diesel engine would NOT like the diesel fuel the made 15 or 20
years ago.

Remco
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In article ,
Mike Smith wrote:
>Peter Parker wrote:
>> In article ,
>> Paul L. Hidey wrote:
>>> I don't know if this has been discussed before, but could someone in the
>>> know, explain why deisel fuel is so insanely high? And why the
>>> professional truck driver's and the railroads, aren't screaming their
>>> brains out? It's driving the price of everything we use out of reach!
>>> Thank you ,
>>> PH
>>
>> Stop bitching like a little girl. In Europe diesel is now close to $7 a
>> gallon.
>
>Do we have to have *this* discussion again?

Do we have to have *this* discussion again?

>- A large portion of the price of fuel in Europe is set by taxes

A large portion of the price of fule in the USA is set by taxes

>- The nations of Europe are democracies

The states of the USA are democracies

>Therefore: If the people of Europe really wanted more reasonable fuel
>prices, they could have them. (Of course, they'd have have to bear the
>cost somewhere else, either in higher income/VAT/other taxes, or in
>reduced government spending.)

Therefore: If the people of the USA really wanted more reasonable fuel prices,
they could have them. (Of course, they'd have have to bear the cost somewhere
else, either in higher income/state/road/sales taxes or in reduced goverment
spending.)

>
>--
>Mike Smith

Will Smith



--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
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In article ,
Jonny wrote:
>"Peter Parker" wrote in message
>
>> In article ,
>> Paul L. Hidey wrote:
>>>I don't know if this has been discussed before, but could someone in the
>>>know, explain why deisel fuel is so insanely high? And why the
>>>professional truck driver's and the railroads, aren't screaming their
>>>brains out? It's driving the price of everything we use out of reach!
>>>Thank you ,
>>>PH
>>
>> Stop bitching like a little girl. In Europe diesel is now close to $7 a
>> gallon.
>>
>> --
>> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
>
>
>Europe is very generic term. Prices vary not only from country to country,
>but also region to region with a country. At least that was my resulting
>viewpoint after my 20 year military tour and many visits to many European
>countries.
>
>Gender specific put-down not needed irregardless. But, apparently, that's
>all you got to substantiate.
>--
>Jonny
>
>

USA is very generic term. Prices vary not only from state to state,
but also region to region with a state. At least that was my resulting
viewpoint after my 20 year military tour and many visits to many USA states.

Gender specific put-down not needed irregardless. But, apparently, that's
all you got to substantiate.

Jonny come lately.

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Papa wrote:
> It's called greed. Technically, diesel should be cheaper because the
> process of preparing it is less extensive.
>

Not exactly. You start with so much oil. Simple distillation will give
you X amount of gasoline and Y amount of diesel type products and Z amount
of other stuff. Since we don't use the product in convenient ratios, those
ratios are pushed one way or another. Normally during the winter when more
heating oil is used it gets pushed towards diesel - heating oils so they
becomes more expensive in the summer the reverse happens. In addition the US
is now going through an adjustment due to ULSD (lower sulfur diesel) so
there will be a natural small rise along with a bigger rise to go towards
CEO retirements.




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Joseph Meehan

Dia duit
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It doesn't change your argument , but we are a republic, not a democracy. We
don't get to vote directly to change anything . We vote for representatives,
which pretty much, do what they want.
"Peter Parker" wrote in message

> In article ,
> Mike Smith wrote:
>>Peter Parker wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> Paul L. Hidey wrote:
>>>> I don't know if this has been discussed before, but could someone in
>>>> the
>>>> know, explain why deisel fuel is so insanely high? And why the
>>>> professional truck driver's and the railroads, aren't screaming their
>>>> brains out? It's driving the price of everything we use out of reach!
>>>> Thank you ,
>>>> PH
>>>
>>> Stop bitching like a little girl. In Europe diesel is now close to $7 a
>>> gallon.
>>
>>Do we have to have *this* discussion again?
>
> Do we have to have *this* discussion again?
>
>>- A large portion of the price of fuel in Europe is set by taxes
>
> A large portion of the price of fule in the USA is set by taxes
>
>>- The nations of Europe are democracies
>
> The states of the USA are democracies
>
>>Therefore: If the people of Europe really wanted more reasonable fuel
>>prices, they could have them. (Of course, they'd have have to bear the
>>cost somewhere else, either in higher income/VAT/other taxes, or in
>>reduced government spending.)
>
> Therefore: If the people of the USA really wanted more reasonable fuel
> prices,
> they could have them. (Of course, they'd have have to bear the cost
> somewhere
> else, either in higher income/state/road/sales taxes or in reduced
> goverment
> spending.)
>
>>
>>--
>>Mike Smith
>
> Will Smith
>
>
>
> --
> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
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