Curious PT Cruiser Window Problem

Lee Gillie wrote:
> The front windows creep down very slowly. The motion is modulated. Both
> front windows behave the same way. The other day they completely stopped
> lowering. And now today they are back to slow motion. However they both
> raise normally. The rear windows and the moon roof operate normally.
>
> My guess it is something I will have to dismantle the dash for. If
> anyone has clues as to what component might be failing, what I'm looking
> for or where it is, that would be great. Also, is there any online
> reference for a wiring diagram for a 2002 PT Cruiser LE?
>
> Thanks - Lee

Ok, so the common component seems to be the EXPRESS DOWN MODULE, which I
am told is located in the window switch assembly on the console, and
only available through dealers. How bad is it to disassemble the dash to
get to this to replace it myself, would be my next question?

Thanks again - Lee
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Lee Gillie wrote:
> Lee Gillie wrote:
>> The front windows creep down very slowly. The motion is modulated.
>> Both front windows behave the same way. The other day they completely
>> stopped lowering. And now today they are back to slow motion. However
>> they both raise normally. The rear windows and the moon roof operate
>> normally.
>>
>> My guess it is something I will have to dismantle the dash for. If
>> anyone has clues as to what component might be failing, what I'm
>> looking for or where it is, that would be great. Also, is there any
>> online reference for a wiring diagram for a 2002 PT Cruiser LE?
>>
>> Thanks - Lee
>
> Ok, so the common component seems to be the EXPRESS DOWN MODULE, which I
> am told is located in the window switch assembly on the console, and
> only available through dealers. How bad is it to disassemble the dash to
> get to this to replace it myself, would be my next question?
>
> Thanks again - Lee

Called the local dealer today. They told me the EXPRESS DOWN MODULE can
not be purchased separately as seen elsewhere. One must buy the entire
center console switch block. Price is $106. Not knowing what kind of
chore it would be to open up the center console, I asked how much to
install? I was quoted another $72. So I am thinking after tax it is
probably about a two hundred dollar bill. Eeeouch!

If you have any advice for a do-it-yourself with electronics background,
but never had the dash apart, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks - Lee
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Lee Gillie wrote:

> Called the local dealer today. They told me the EXPRESS DOWN MODULE can
> not be purchased separately as seen elsewhere. One must buy the entire
> center console switch block. Price is $106...

Price it on some on-line discount dealer sites like
www.chryslerpartsdirect.com or www.allchryslerparts.com - I think you
will find you will save quite a bit on the part even after a nominal
shipping charge - some dealers generally mark parts up a bit when they
install (vs. carry out). For example, using such sites, I find OEM
parts for 30 to 40% lower than the local dealer. That would make your
$106 part in the $65 to $75 range plus maybe $8 or $10 shipping (*and*
no sales tax).

If you can get a part number to plug in, that would be best as the drill
downs don't list every part or are sometimes not organized very well
(difficult to find a particular part even if it's in the drill down).

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')
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the switch just pops out easy with a butterknife type tool behind it

Lee Gillie wrote:

> Lee Gillie wrote:
> > The front windows creep down very slowly. The motion is modulated. Both
> > front windows behave the same way. The other day they completely stopped
> > lowering. And now today they are back to slow motion. However they both
> > raise normally. The rear windows and the moon roof operate normally.
> >
> > My guess it is something I will have to dismantle the dash for. If
> > anyone has clues as to what component might be failing, what I'm looking
> > for or where it is, that would be great. Also, is there any online
> > reference for a wiring diagram for a 2002 PT Cruiser LE?
> >
> > Thanks - Lee
>
> Ok, so the common component seems to be the EXPRESS DOWN MODULE, which I
> am told is located in the window switch assembly on the console, and
> only available through dealers. How bad is it to disassemble the dash to
> get to this to replace it myself, would be my next question?
>
> Thanks again - Lee
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Thanks to you, I found the $106 MSRP part for $82.68 delivered, and from
the hint from Philthy, I removed the switch, and can see I can very
easily replace it myself in 2 minutes. I would say between the two of
you that was about $120 in savings. Thank you so much!! - Lee

Bill Putney wrote:
> Lee Gillie wrote:
>
>> Called the local dealer today. They told me the EXPRESS DOWN MODULE
>> can not be purchased separately as seen elsewhere. One must buy the
>> entire center console switch block. Price is $106...
>
> Price it on some on-line discount dealer sites like
> www.chryslerpartsdirect.com or www.allchryslerparts.com - I think you
> will find you will save quite a bit on the part even after a nominal
> shipping charge - some dealers generally mark parts up a bit when they
> install (vs. carry out). For example, using such sites, I find OEM
> parts for 30 to 40% lower than the local dealer. That would make your
> $106 part in the $65 to $75 range plus maybe $8 or $10 shipping (*and*
> no sales tax).
>
> If you can get a part number to plug in, that would be best as the drill
> downs don't list every part or are sometimes not organized very well
> (difficult to find a particular part even if it's in the drill down).
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> address with the letter 'x')
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Lee Gillie wrote:

> Thanks to you, I found the $106 MSRP part for $82.68 delivered, and from
> the hint from Philthy, I removed the switch, and can see I can very
> easily replace it myself in 2 minutes. I would say between the two of
> you that was about $120 in savings. Thank you so much!! - Lee

You're welcome - glad to help. Thanks for posting back.

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')
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merry christmas

Lee Gillie wrote:

> Thanks to you, I found the $106 MSRP part for $82.68 delivered, and from
> the hint from Philthy, I removed the switch, and can see I can very
> easily replace it myself in 2 minutes. I would say between the two of
> you that was about $120 in savings. Thank you so much!! - Lee
>
> Bill Putney wrote:
> > Lee Gillie wrote:
> >
> >> Called the local dealer today. They told me the EXPRESS DOWN MODULE
> >> can not be purchased separately as seen elsewhere. One must buy the
> >> entire center console switch block. Price is $106...
> >
> > Price it on some on-line discount dealer sites like
> > www.chryslerpartsdirect.com or www.allchryslerparts.com - I think you
> > will find you will save quite a bit on the part even after a nominal
> > shipping charge - some dealers generally mark parts up a bit when they
> > install (vs. carry out). For example, using such sites, I find OEM
> > parts for 30 to 40% lower than the local dealer. That would make your
> > $106 part in the $65 to $75 range plus maybe $8 or $10 shipping (*and*
> > no sales tax).
> >
> > If you can get a part number to plug in, that would be best as the drill
> > downs don't list every part or are sometimes not organized very well
> > (difficult to find a particular part even if it's in the drill down).
> >
> > Bill Putney
> > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> > address with the letter 'x')
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