Which Cost More? Oil or ...

Of course, we are all environmentalist in that we do not want to "$#it" were
we "eat," the environuts on the other hand do not want us to "eat" so we do
not need to deal with the "$#it."

What ever is going to replace gasoline is not yet, or even close to being,
available in the amount needed. Until it is, we MUST drill our own oil or
we MUST import that which we can not produce. The ONLY option is a
factoring economy and if the US goes down so will the rest of the world.
The fact is there is more oil leaking naturally out of the ground than has
ever leaked out of any of the hundreds of thousand of oil wells in water
around the world. thousands of our wells in the Gulf were damage during
Katarina but not ONE leaked oil into the Gulf, Many of those wells in the
Gulf near the end of the area where drilling is permitted, could be
producing NEW oil in a year with the new slant drilling technology in use
today.

There are TWO things that can take us away from the need to import. Diesel
vehicles that are already in the pipe line that can be run on our own diesel
fuel made for our own 250 year supply of clean burning coal and nuclear
power for plug in electric cars. The environuts are apposed to both and so
is Obama. We need a change but not one that is worse, that will kill our
economy.

If one owns a diesel powered vehicle and buy a cleaning system for around
$5,000 they can use McDonalds' waist oil but the environuts will soon be
screaming about the McDonalds' of the world for killing people with heart
attacks just to get enough to replace 2% of the 400,000,00 gallons of gas we
use daily. By the way make sure you pay the fed and yours states the road
use taxes on that waist fuel or you will go to jail



"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mike hunt wrote:
>> How often have we heard from the environuts that we should switch to
>> ethanol
>> or bio-fuels etc? Where in the hell will we get enough ethanol or
>> bio-fuels to replace the 400,000,000 gallons of gasoline we use every day
>> in
>> the US?
>
> Well, if you stopped drinking, then we would be 1/2 way there.
>
> We should be using waste oil (like used fryer grease) and such whenever
> possible and do more to conserve energy, like recycle more aluminum
> cans. However, ethanol is not worth it, because it takes too much energy
> to make. Plus, corn has other uses, like food.
>
>> It is time to drill our own oil until we can answer that question. The
>> fact is the Dims believe what the environuts believe and they both WANT
>> us
>> to pay $4 or MORE a gallon to make us believe what they believe. The
>> only
>> concern Obama has expressed is that the price went up too fast, not tat
>> it
>> is going up. He is apposed to drilling of shore and wants to tax the oil
>> companies to make ethanol or bio-fuels. That will only make the price
>> of
>> gas and food go up even more.
>
> Obama is, IMHO, correct on that. We need to maintain the environment, as
> well. Plus, we should not be so nearsighted that we use up all the
> reserves. We should save some for future generations.
>
> I also agree that the problem is that the prices rose too fast. However,
> nothing drives conservation like high prices.
>
> Jeff
>
>> "Mark A" <nobody RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Lbx7k.20910$WG2.4463@fe117.usenetserver.com...
>>>> .....and you were stupid enough to repeat their nonsense.
>>> I don't think it is complete nonsense.
>>>
>>> One thing that we all thought would help solve our dependency on foreign
>>> oil is ethanol. It turns out that since it comes from mostly corn crops
>>> (at least in the US) the increase in ethanol has caused food prices to
>>> skyrocket as more and more farmland is converted to growing crops to
>>> make
>>> ethanol and also because the cost of feedstock has increased for
>>> animals.
>>>
>>
>>
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bullshit. Show us your evidence that this is true.
>
> Furthermore, not all oil is the same. Different types of oil damage the
> environment in different ways and in different degrees. In addition, to
> oil leaking out of wells, there is oil leaking from pipes, from tanker
> crashes like the Exxon Valdez, as well as other environmental damage done,
> like disruptions of the sea floor or areas where the wells are from
> different types of vehicles.

So are you going to support nuclear energy like France, Japan, and most of
Western Europe? France gets about 80% of its electricity from nuclear, and
is building new plants frequently.
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:23:36 +0000, Jeff wrote:

> Mike hunt wrote:
>> How often have we heard from the environuts that we should switch to ethanol
>> or bio-fuels etc? Where in the hell will we get enough ethanol or
>> bio-fuels to replace the 400,000,000 gallons of gasoline we use every day in
>> the US?
>
> Well, if you stopped drinking, then we would be 1/2 way there.
>
> We should be using waste oil (like used fryer grease)


We are:

http://www.greasecar.com/

There are a whole bunch of them around here, since the company is ~12 from
my home.

Interesting. Smell french-fries? Look for a VW with a GREASECAR sticker.

I have a friend who runs veggie oil in his F-350, unmodified. Says it
costs about $1 a gallon, but you know that will change.

The only real reason you need to modify the car is to keep the grease from
solidifying. Once the temp gets above 75 degrees, that's not an issue.
Below 75 degrees you can mix it with diesel fuel, but only down to about
70.
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"Mark A" <nobody.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Price per barrel:
>
> Oil $133
> Coca Cola $126
> Milk $163
> Perrier Water $300
> Budweiser $447
> Starbucks Latte $954
> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560

This has been posted in here before and let me say again, it is f-ing
retarded. Are you an apologist for big oil?

I am sorry but how much Ben and Jerry's do you need? How much Tabasco sauce
do you need? How much Perrier do you need? Furthermore, how the f__k do you
think that stuff gets to your location when you do decide to dabble in it?

Stop being a dumbass moron.
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"Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze RemoveThis @MeBro.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark A" <nobody RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> Price per barrel:
>>
>> Oil $133
>> Coca Cola $126
>> Milk $163
>> Perrier Water $300
>> Budweiser $447
>> Starbucks Latte $954
>> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
>> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
>> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560
>
> This has been posted in here before and let me say again, it is f-ing
> retarded. Are you an apologist for big oil?
>
> I am sorry but how much Ben and Jerry's do you need? How much Tabasco
> sauce do you need? How much Perrier do you need? Furthermore, how the f__k
> do you think that stuff gets to your location when you do decide to dabble
> in it?
>
> Stop being a dumbass moron.

If you want to look at it your way.
A barrel of each would last a person:
Oil 1 day(maybe)
Coca Cola 3 months
Milk 3 months
Perrier Water 3 weeks
Budweiser 2 months
Starbucks Latte 2 year
Ben & Jerry's 2 year
Tabasco Sauce 20 years
Chanel No 5 100 years(really don't use the stuff myself)
Now if a barrel of oil could last as long as any of these we would be doing
real good.
You dumbshit!

These are my estimation and not to be taken serious.
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"Mike hunt" <mikehunt22.DeleteThis@lycos.com> wrote in message
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>I guess he was suggesting if one did not buy Coca Cola @ $126, Milk @
>$163, Perrier Water @ $300, Budweiser @ $447, Starbucks Latte @ $954, Ben &
>Jerry's @ $1,609, Tabasco Sauce @ $6,155 and Chanel No 5 @ $1,666,560 they
>could afford all the gas they need. Either that or, if they can afford
>Coca Cola @ $126, Milk @ $163, Perrier Water @ $300, Budweiser @ $447,
>Starbucks Latte @ $954, Ben & Jerry's @ $1,609, Tabasco Sauce @ $6,155 and
>Chanel No 5 @ $1,666,560, they do not NEED to worry about the cost of
>buying all the gas they need. What did YOU think he meant?


Of course, neither is consumed like oil and assuming it is fair for anyone
to be forced to forgo the good things in life just to make the oil pimps
happy is something out of a neo-conservative exxon stockholder's story book.
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"Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze DeleteThis @MeBro.com> wrote in message
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> Of course, neither is consumed like oil and assuming it is fair for anyone
> to be forced to forgo the good things in life just to make the oil pimps
> happy is something out of a neo-conservative exxon stockholder's story
> book.

Yes, must be those neocons at CNBC who published the list.

You get very emotional when someone publishes facts.
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"Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze RemoveThis @MeBro.com> wrote in message
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> As I said, go fill your car up tomorrow with tabasco sauce and then we can
> compare the prices.

I don't know about Tabasco sauce, but Ben and Jerry's has enough butterfat
that I bet you could run an engine off it.
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"Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze.RemoveThis@MeBro.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark A" <nobody.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> Price per barrel:
>>
>> Oil $133
>> Coca Cola $126
>> Milk $163
>> Perrier Water $300
>> Budweiser $447
>> Starbucks Latte $954
>> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
>> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
>> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560

I don't see the nations economy and infrastructure running on lattes and
Coke. Or F-22's or M1 Abrams for that matter. Idiot.
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"Augustus" <no_one.DeleteThis@no_where.net> wrote in message
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> "Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze.DeleteThis@MeBro.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Mark A" <nobody.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>>> Price per barrel:
>>>
>>> Oil $133
>>> Coca Cola $126
>>> Milk $163
>>> Perrier Water $300
>>> Budweiser $447
>>> Starbucks Latte $954
>>> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
>>> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
>>> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560
>
> I don't see the nations economy and infrastructure running on lattes and
> Coke. Or F-22's or M1 Abrams for that matter. Idiot.

indeed, but maybe exxon will find a way to make a cocacola engine, and then
they can raise the cost 7 more dollars a barrel.
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"Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze.TakeThisOut@MeBro.com> wrote in message
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> "Augustus" <no_one.TakeThisOut@no_where.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze.TakeThisOut@MeBro.com> wrote in message
> > news:PXD7k.972$9J.3@trnddc06...
> >>
> >> "Mark A" <nobody.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> >> news:dCn7k.2478$1I.1673@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> >>> Price per barrel:
> >>>
> >>> Oil $133
> >>> Coca Cola $126
> >>> Milk $163
> >>> Perrier Water $300
> >>> Budweiser $447
> >>> Starbucks Latte $954
> >>> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
> >>> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
> >>> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560
> >
> > I don't see the nations economy and infrastructure running on lattes and
> > Coke. Or F-22's or M1 Abrams for that matter. Idiot.
>
> indeed, but maybe exxon will find a way to make a cocacola engine,

You obviously never saw the ORIGINAL Charlie and the Chocolate
Factory or you would have remembered the Wonkamobile.

Ted
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"Ripcord" <kf.RemoveThis@beth.net> wrote in message
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> If you want to look at it your way.
> A barrel of each would last a person:
> Oil 1 day(maybe)
> Coca Cola 3 months
> Milk 3 months
> Perrier Water 3 weeks
> Budweiser 2 months
> Starbucks Latte 2 year
> Ben & Jerry's 2 year
> Tabasco Sauce 20 years
> Chanel No 5 100 years(really don't use the stuff myself)
> Now if a barrel of oil could last as long as any of these we would be
> doing real good.
> You dumbshit!
>
> These are my estimation and not to be taken serious.

There are 42 gallons in barrel of oil. Although only about half of that is
made into gasoline during the refining process, the remaining half is made
into other products that sell for about the same price as gasoline (on
average). So you can either assume that a barrel of oil does produce 42
gallons (they could do that if they wanted to), or the price per barrel
should be cut in half, since the other half of the barrel is made into other
valuable petroleum products.

Assuming we get 42 gallons per barrel and our car averages 25 miles per
gallon, that would be 1050 miles per barrel. That would last me more than a
month. You claim it only lasts 1 day.

Now who is the moron?
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"Mark A" <nobody RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote

> There are 42 gallons in barrel of oil. Although only about half of that is
> made into gasoline during the refining process,.....


> Assuming we get 42 gallons per barrel...

> and our car averages 25 miles per
> gallon, that would be 1050 miles per barrel. That would last me more than a
> month. You claim it only lasts 1 day.
>
> Now who is the moron?


Er, you'd only have 21 gallons,
thereby only getting 525 miles/barrel

For someone living where I do who commutes
50 miles and back each day to work on the offshore
oil rigs, that would last them about 5 days

Furthermore, the Ben and Jerrys would probably
only last a day or two at my place
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