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bungalow_steve

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(Msg. 61) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:57 am
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On Jun 4, 12:43 am, "Mark A" <nob... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> "Cathy F." <clfrc... RemoveThis @adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
>
> news:CqidnQD-APvPhtvVRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>
> > The plug in hybrids to be released in a few years seem to be a much
> > better solution, 40miles on one overnight charge, no gas usage unless
> > you go over 40miles between charges.
>
> Not sure why that is better. You have to pay for the electricity, most of
> which is produced by power plants that burn fossil fuels (natural gas or
> coal). Admittedly, some electricity is produced by nuclear plants or
> hydroelectric, but it is not cheap.

Power from a fossil fuel plant at your AC plug in your house is about
1/3 the cost of gasoline, in terms of energy, that's why it's better
in terms of cost.

For the environment the idea is that it is much easier to control the
pollution at a single site (coal plant) vs each car.

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(Msg. 62) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:10 am
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On Jun 4, 12:36 am, "Cathy F." <clfrc... RemoveThis @adelphiadotdashdot.net>
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> <bungalow_st... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The prius just doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it or work
> the numbers, 45mpg highway (summer numbers, brand new batteries,
> ````````````````````````````````
> ---Huh; colleague got 55 mpg driving their new Prius on the Thruway.
>
good for him/her, I got the mpg number from toyota's web site.


> ``````````````````````````````
> winter is much worse, and battery charge capacity reduces every year),
> that mpg is what my 85 prelude got,
> `````````````````
> ---Your Prelude got 45 mpg??
>

sure did, many 80's cars got great mileage, then they dropped down in
the 90's when everyone started to forgot about the 70's gas shortage
and mileage got worse again in the 2000's (peak of SUV craze)

> ---Cathy
>
>  your getting a 12K econo box gas
> car that's been hybridized.
>
> The plug in hybrids to be released in a few years seem to be a much
> better solution, 40miles on one overnight charge, no gas usage unless
> you go over 40miles between charges.

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(Msg. 63) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:46 am
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(Msg. 64) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:12 pm
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(Msg. 65) Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:53 pm
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<bungalow_steve.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 4, 12:36 am, "Cathy F." <clfrc....TakeThisOut@adelphiadotdashdot.net>
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> <bungalow_st....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:8c85ed01-d950-44a1-9955-ba83e8bb1066@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
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> The prius just doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it or work
> the numbers, 45mpg highway (summer numbers, brand new batteries,
> ````````````````````````````````
> ---Huh; colleague got 55 mpg driving their new Prius on the Thruway.
>
good for him/her, I got the mpg number from toyota's web site.


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We get 55-56 MPG in our Prius every day here in NJ; about 52 in the winter.
Tomes
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(Msg. 66) Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:23 am
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(Msg. 67) Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:04 pm
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop.TakeThisOut@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> In article <g27h21$36i$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
> "Tomes" <ask.me.TakeThisOut@here.net> wrote:
>
>> > The prius just doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it or work
>> > the numbers, 45mpg highway (summer numbers, brand new batteries,
>> > ````````````````````````````````
>> > ---Huh; colleague got 55 mpg driving their new Prius on the Thruway.
>> >
>> good for him/her, I got the mpg number from toyota's web site.
>
> Toyota's web site did not specify "summer numbers, brand new batteries"
> when it specified 45mpg.
>
> And since the AC uses as much energy as running the car for heat, that
> 45mpg in summer is just as bad as the same 45mpg in winter.
>
> If you can keep the climate control off AND keep it to 55 and under
> driving around town, you'll see 55mpg no problem. If you turn the
> climate control on and just drive it like a normal car, you'll see 45mpg.
>
Just for clarification, I did not write what is attributed to me above.
Tomes
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(Msg. 68) Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:06 pm
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If you consider the Prius, why not the Camry Hybrid? Gets great mileage and
has the room. They are harder to get now and there are no discounts when
you buy. (Fortunately I got mine in 07.) Still worth a look.

John

"Ajanta" <ajanta RemoveThis @null.void> wrote in message
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>I would appreciate opinions/experience on which of these would make the
> wisest purchase of a new (2008/2009) car for 5-10 years?
>
> I look upon cars as utility items and was thinking of Corolla.
>
> SO seems smitten with Camry and keeps saying Corolla's back seats seem
> crowded (as if we are running a taxi, it is a rare day when anyone sits
> there). I have nothing against Camry, but I am thinking we spend more
> money and get porer mpg.
>
> Finally I said, if we are into Camry price range, why not consider
> Prius too and at least get the mileage?
>
> That's where we are.
>
> They are all good cars, but I'd appreciate your opinions on relative
> value.
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(Msg. 69) Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:38 pm
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On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:34:50 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven.TakeThisOut@geemail.com>
wrote:

>Cathy F. wrote:
>
>> Okay, then laugh at me. But I'll take that hard-bargained-for $200 over
>> what was invoice price way before I'll pay anything *near* MSRP for a
>> Corolla. How many people walk into a dealership, see something they like on
>> the lot, & that day agree to pay whatever the sales person says is the
>> lowest they'll go? (Which is baloney.)
>>
>> Cathy
>
>You shouldn't have to bargain at all for $200 over invoice. For Camrys
>and Corollas the dealers often advertise prices lower than this in their
>"all in stock at this price" sales.
>
>Actually I shouldn't laugh. I have no idea where you are located. It's
>very possible that California dealers accept lower prices for Toyotas
>than dealers in whatever state you're in. It's extremely competitive
>here, even more so in southern California than northern California. So
>maybe we're just spoiled out here. Don't worry, our high sales tax makes
>up for the lower prices.

Just bought a 09 Corolla for one of my IT field techs here in San
Diego. It's the standard model, basic white, with only the extended
7/100,000 warranty and an alarm system with front door actuators added
as options.

The dealer was offering this car in one of those ads in which the car
is never there when you show up to see it. However, the fleet manager
arranged for me to get one the following week when that ad came out.

I still can't believe this deal:

$13,997 (car) + $1200 (extended warranty) + $495 (alarm and door
actuators)

The sticker was slightly over 17K. I don't know the actual invoice
cost, but it has to be much higher than the ad price. I'm guessing
about 15K, mas o menos.

Here's the best part: Nothing down, 0% interest for 36 months. I was
ready to hand over two or three thousand dollars. So much for that!

He also offered a 3 year 15K/yr lease for $165 per month with only
$400 down! What? How can they do that? The problem is that my techs
drive 25K-30K per year, so that's obviously not cost effective.

I probably paid a bit too much for the warranty and alarm, but I
wasn't going to argue over those things since they gave such a great
deal on the car and financing. I figured we'd burn through the
standard warranty in 18 months, so it was worth the extra cost. I was
also told that the warranty can be canceled and pro-rated at any time.

Possibly the best deal I've ever made on a vehicle. Funny though, as
I'll probably never even sit in it!
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