Corolla, Camry, or Prius?

"Cathy F." <clfrclfr.TakeThisOut@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
news:AaWdndfc7ae3xNnV4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
>> How big is the rear seat in a Prius?
>
> Big.

I looked it up and Corolla has slightly more headroom in rear than Prius
(37.2 vs. 37.1 inches). Headroom is important because it is usually about 2
inches less in the rear than in the front.

Leg room is about the same. Prius has more rear hip room, but less shoulder
room than 2009 Corolla.

The main point I was making is that both Prius and Corolla are smaller than
Camry.

> ?? Looks plenty big back there to me. Can't see that a Corolla's trunk
> would provide more room, at any rate.

You are correct on that one. Prius has larger trunk (14.4 cu ft vs. 12.3 cu
ft). I thought the batteries are in the trunk, but I guess not.

> Not a potential issue unless you plan to jeep the car for more than 8 - 10
> years; long warranty (8 - 10 years, dep. on state) on the battery.
>
> Cathy

I believe that OP kept last car 10 years. I am not sure about keeping a
Prius that long because of battery issues. Call me a scaremonger if you
want, but rechargeable batteries eventually go bad. But I agree that if ones
only keeps it 5-6 years it is not an issue.

I also notice that the bumper to bumper (basic) warranty for Prius is 36
mo/36K miles, while 2009 Corolla is 60 mo/60K miles. Not sure if 2009 Prius
will be the same.
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

"SMS" <scharf.steven DeleteThis @geemail.com> wrote in message
news:aaZ0k.6345$Ri.3894@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
> The Camry is larger than the Corolla or Prius, do you need the larger car,
> i.e. will you frequently be carrying adult passengers in the rear and do
> you care if they're comfortable?

Maybe more important is: how big are the people who will sit in the rear
seat?

I am 6'1" and I believe I was sterilized in my youth when I sat in the back
seat of a Chevy Chevette for extended period of time (probably didn't help
that I sat behind the driver who was 6'4" and he had his seat all the way
back).
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

Ajanta wrote:

> I look upon cars as utility items and was thinking of Corolla.
>
> SO seems smitten with Camry and keeps saying Corolla's back seats seem
> crowded (as if we are running a taxi, it is a rare day when anyone sits
> there). I have nothing against Camry, but I am thinking we spend more
> money and get poorer mpg.
>
> Finally I said, if we are into Camry price range, why not consider
> Prius too and at least get the mileage?

The July 2008 Consumer Reports has a review of the new Corolla and
said the back seat is OK for two people but tight for three. Another
reason to check CR is that their gas mileage figures are a lot more
realistic than the US government's. They rated the base Corolla with
4-speed automatic at 23 MPG city, 40 highway. That city figure is
unusually high for a car of this size with an automatic. In
comparison, the Camry got 16/36 (4-cyl) or 16/32 (V6), the Prius 35/50.
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

"SMS" <scharf.steven.RemoveThis@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:aaZ0k.6345$Ri.3894@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
> Ajanta wrote:
>> Mark A <nobody.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>> : There is no way that anyone can make that decision for you.
>>
>> I understand that. I am only asking for opinions about value (price v
>> mpg and whatever else you get) from those who may have brooded this
>> issue themselves.
>
> There are so many considerations that it's impossible to decide based on
> that amount of information.
>
> The Camry and Corolla will have much higher resale value after 5 to 10
> years than a Prius, since the batteries on a Prius cost so much to
> replace.

Incorrect. Check out the value of an '04 Prius on the Edmunds or Kelly Blue
Book sites. For a car, its lack of depreciation is pretty amazing.

Cathy







>
> For mainly highway driving, the hybrid drive provides less of an advantage
> than in city driving.
>
> The Camry is larger than the Corolla or Prius, do you need the larger car,
> i.e. will you frequently be carrying adult passengers in the rear and do
> you care if they're comfortable?
>
> How many miles a year do you drive?
>
> Does your state offer a program to allow hybrids to use HOV lanes, and are
> there still any permits available?
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

"Mark A" <nobody.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:nhZ0k.3432$%z2.2415@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr.DeleteThis@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
> news:AaWdndfc7ae3xNnV4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
>>> How big is the rear seat in a Prius?
>>
>> Big.
>
> I looked it up and Corolla has slightly more headroom in rear than Prius
> (37.2 vs. 37.1 inches). Headroom is important because it is usually about
> 2 inches less in the rear than in the front.

One-tenth of an inch.

>
> Leg room is about the same. Prius has more rear hip room, but less
> shoulder room than 2009 Corolla.
>
> The main point I was making is that both Prius and Corolla are smaller
> than Camry.

Have you ever sat in a Prius?

Cathy


>
>> ?? Looks plenty big back there to me. Can't see that a Corolla's trunk
>> would provide more room, at any rate.
>
> You are correct on that one. Prius has larger trunk (14.4 cu ft vs. 12.3
> cu ft). I thought the batteries are in the trunk, but I guess not.
>
>> Not a potential issue unless you plan to jeep the car for more than 8 -
>> 10 years; long warranty (8 - 10 years, dep. on state) on the battery.
>>
>> Cathy
>
> I believe that OP kept last car 10 years. I am not sure about keeping a
> Prius that long because of battery issues. Call me a scaremonger if you
> want, but rechargeable batteries eventually go bad. But I agree that if
> ones only keeps it 5-6 years it is not an issue.
>
> I also notice that the bumper to bumper (basic) warranty for Prius is 36
> mo/36K miles, while 2009 Corolla is 60 mo/60K miles. Not sure if 2009
> Prius will be the same.
>
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

"Mark A" <nobody RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:pnZ0k.3436$%z2.2786@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> "SMS" <scharf.steven RemoveThis @geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:aaZ0k.6345$Ri.3894@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> The Camry is larger than the Corolla or Prius, do you need the larger
>> car, i.e. will you frequently be carrying adult passengers in the rear
>> and do you care if they're comfortable?
>
> Maybe more important is: how big are the people who will sit in the rear
> seat?
>
> I am 6'1" and I believe I was sterilized in my youth when I sat in the
> back seat of a Chevy Chevette for extended period of time (probably didn't
> help that I sat behind the driver who was 6'4" and he had his seat all the
> way back).

For relative reference: I sat in a Prius' back seat, with the driver's seat
all of the way back - since that's how I drive. My knees didn't even begin
to touch the back of the driver's seat - about a 3" gap. (I'm 5'8", but have
long legs.) Last weekeend a friend's daughter sat in the back of my
Corolla, behind the driver's seat - I apologized for my seat being all of
the way back. She said no problem, her knees had plenty of room to spare;
they did. (She's about 5'9"-5'10".)

Cathy
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

This message is not archived
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

This message is not archived
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

"dbu" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.moc> wrote in message
news:nospam-2F417A.18464402062008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <elmop-EFB4CE.19414102062008.RemoveThis@nntp9.usenetserver.com>,
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop.RemoveThis@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <vYidnUkSAciK5dnV4p2dnAA.RemoveThis@giganews.com>,
>> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr.RemoveThis@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
>>
>> > "Mark A" <nobody.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> > news:nhZ0k.3432$%z2.2415@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> > >
>> > > Leg room is about the same. Prius has more rear hip room, but less
>> > > shoulder room than 2009 Corolla.
>> > >
>> > > The main point I was making is that both Prius and Corolla are
>> > > smaller
>> > > than Camry.
>> >
>> > Have you ever sat in a Prius?
>>
>> No, he hasn't.
>>
>> Nor does he care to.
>>
>> He'd rather sit there, wallowing in ignorance, all the time spouting off
>> like he actually knows something.
>
> When will the batteries need replacement? How much will it cost? If I
> am a prospective used Prius customer these questions come to mind along
> with a few more.

Read Ray O.'s reply.

Cathy


> --
>
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

This message is not archived
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

"dbu" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.moc> wrote in message
news:nospam-8CD9F2.19584002062008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <Lcadnb6ZzvtQD9nV4p2dnAA.TakeThisOut@giganews.com>,
> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr.TakeThisOut@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
>
>> "dbu" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.moc> wrote in message
>> news:nospam-2F417A.18464402062008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > In article <elmop-EFB4CE.19414102062008.TakeThisOut@nntp9.usenetserver.com>,
>> > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop.TakeThisOut@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <vYidnUkSAciK5dnV4p2dnAA.TakeThisOut@giganews.com>,
>> >> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr.TakeThisOut@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > "Mark A" <nobody.TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:nhZ0k.3432$%z2.2415@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Leg room is about the same. Prius has more rear hip room, but less
>> >> > > shoulder room than 2009 Corolla.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The main point I was making is that both Prius and Corolla are
>> >> > > smaller
>> >> > > than Camry.
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you ever sat in a Prius?
>> >>
>> >> No, he hasn't.
>> >>
>> >> Nor does he care to.
>> >>
>> >> He'd rather sit there, wallowing in ignorance, all the time spouting
>> >> off
>> >> like he actually knows something.
>> >
>> > When will the batteries need replacement? How much will it cost? If I
>> > am a prospective used Prius customer these questions come to mind along
>> > with a few more.
>>
>> Read Ray O.'s reply.
>>
>> Cathy
>
> Cause I've been very busy here, I missed his reply, when did he make it
> so I can narrow my search?

The time stamp is 2:13 am.

It's right in this thread, which which isn't all that long. (Let's see, I
went to work, went to the dentist, made dinner, painted the rebuilt
flowerboxes, & am in the middle of correcting papers, yet I can somehow
manage to find Ray's post in this thread. Imagine that. Jeez.)]

Cathy
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

"Cathy F." <clfrclfr DeleteThis @adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote in message
news:Q4-dnT1uQ4ToBtnVRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
<snippede>

>>> > When will the batteries need replacement? How much will it cost? If
>>> > I
>>> > am a prospective used Prius customer these questions come to mind
>>> > along
>>> > with a few more.
>>>
>>> Read Ray O.'s reply.
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>
>> Cause I've been very busy here, I missed his reply, when did he make it
>> so I can narrow my search?
>
> The time stamp is 2:13 am.
>

Hmmm, no wonder I was so drowsy this afternoon!

> It's right in this thread, which which isn't all that long. (Let's see, I
> went to work, went to the dentist, made dinner, painted the rebuilt
> flowerboxes, & am in the middle of correcting papers, yet I can somehow
> manage to find Ray's post in this thread. Imagine that. Jeez.)]
>
> Cathy
>

For everyone's convenience, I've copied and pasted my post...

"The Prius probably has the best combination of interior room and fuel
economy of the 3 cars you mentioned, but with the price premium for the
Prius, it will probably take 4 or 5 years to break even vs. the price of a
Corolla. If you are only going to keep the car for 5 years, the Prius may
not be worth the higher cost. If you are going to keep the car for 10
years, then you may be ahead. A lot of people will tell you to worry about
the cost of replacement batteries for the Prius, but in the 9 years that
Toyota has sold hybrid cars in the U.S., they have only sold 1 or 2 battery
packs so replacement batteries should not be a factor.

If fuel economy is the biggest concern, look at the Corolla. If interior
room is important, look at the Camry."
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius? 

larry moe 'n curly wrote:
>
> Ajanta wrote:
>
>> I look upon cars as utility items and was thinking of Corolla.
>>
>> SO seems smitten with Camry and keeps saying Corolla's back seats seem
>> crowded (as if we are running a taxi, it is a rare day when anyone sits
>> there). I have nothing against Camry, but I am thinking we spend more
>> money and get poorer mpg.
>>
>> Finally I said, if we are into Camry price range, why not consider
>> Prius too and at least get the mileage?
>
> The July 2008 Consumer Reports has a review of the new Corolla and
> said the back seat is OK for two people but tight for three. Another
> reason to check CR is that their gas mileage figures are a lot more
> realistic than the US government's. They rated the base Corolla with
> 4-speed automatic at 23 MPG city, 40 highway. That city figure is
> unusually high for a car of this size with an automatic. In
> comparison, the Camry got 16/36 (4-cyl) or 16/32 (V6), the Prius 35/50.

Another thing you can do is try to rent each of the cars for a weekend
or so. You won't get the exact model you want, but I bet they will be
close enough. The Toyota dealer might lend you the Camry or Corolla for
a weekend, but I don't see that happening for Prii.

Jeff
 >> Stay informed about: Corolla, Camry, or Prius?