Chinese cars and Chinese products

"azazel scratch" <warlock.DeleteThis@ispwest.com> wrote in message
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> I have never been inside a Wal
> Mart store but I understand most, if not all, of their merchandise is made
> in China

That is probably true but in most other variety stores most of the
merchandise is
made in China also.

I buy certain things from WalMart. One of the most common purchases there
is
motor oil. What Walmart sells is the same as what everyone else sells. (I'm
not
talking about the house brand of motor oil) I really cannot get all worked
up
about local businesses losing me as a customer to Wal Mart because all of
the
other auto-parts stores and gas stations in the local area that sell motor
oil are also
national chains.

> and a lot of their employees are illegal immigrant Mexicans.
>

Most of their employees in this location aren't Hispanic.

Ted
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> "azazel scratch" <warlock.DeleteThis@ispwest.com> wrote in message
> news:f7dldf01840@enews2.newsguy.com...
>
>> I have never been inside a Wal
>> Mart store but I understand most, if not all, of their merchandise is made
>> in China
>
> That is probably true but in most other variety stores most of the
> merchandise is
> made in China also.
>
> I buy certain things from WalMart. One of the most common purchases there
> is
> motor oil. What Walmart sells is the same as what everyone else sells. (I'm
> not
> talking about the house brand of motor oil) I really cannot get all worked
> up
> about local businesses losing me as a customer to Wal Mart because all of
> the
> other auto-parts stores and gas stations in the local area that sell motor
> oil are also
> national chains.

Not all the other auto parts stores and gas stations are national
chains. Many auto parts stores are locally owned and a lot of gas
stations are independently owned, as well.

>> and a lot of their employees are illegal immigrant Mexicans.
>>
>
> Most of their employees in this location aren't Hispanic.

What difference does it make? They are people trying to make a living,
just like me.

> Ted
>
>
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> "azazel scratch" <warlock DeleteThis @ispwest.com> wrote in message
>> news:f7dldf01840@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>
>
>>> and a lot of their employees are illegal immigrant Mexicans.
>>>
>>
>> Most of their employees in this location aren't Hispanic.
>
> What difference does it make? They are people trying to make a living,
> just like me.
>
>> Ted
>> Who Wal Mart, Sears, Macy's, and every other national chain hires makes a
>> big difference and matters to every American. America is a sovereign
>> nation with a system of laws and immigrants cannot be allowed to enter
>> illegally in search of a better life and employment. The effects of
>> illegal immigration can be seen in Western states such as California.
>> California spends hundreds of millions of dollars to provide a free
>> education and medical care to illegal immigrant Mexicans and funds are
>> also spent to incarcerate all the illegal immigrant Mexicans who commit
>> crimes. Public schools are crowded with illegal immigrant Mexican
>> children and children born in the US to illegal immigrant Mexican
>> parents. I also realize that there are illegal immigrants from other
>> countries as well but illegal immigrant Mexicans make up the majority of
>> illegal immigrants in the Western states. Every day tens of thousands of
>> illegal immigrant Mexicans line the streets in California cities looking
>> for work. Hospitals in California have closed because of the illegal
>> immigrant Mexicans use of the emergency rooms for free medical care. But
>> the biggest reason immigrants enter the US illegally is jobs. Illegal
>> immigrant Mexicans are now doing jobs that Americans used to do. They
>> are now building homes doing the framing, plumbing, electrical, flooring,
>> tiling, sheetrock, etc. Twenty years ago all of the jobs required in
>> homebuilding were done by young Americans. Union contractors used to go
>> to the union hall and hire extra help but now find it easier and cheaper
>> to hire illegals. It comes down to the bottom line. Why pay an American
>> college student $15 an hour to frame a house when you can pay an illegal
>> immigrant Mexican $5 an hour? Immigration laws should be enforced and
>> anyone found to be residing illegally in the US should be deported.
>> Citizenship should not be conferred upon any child born in the US whose
>> parents are here illegally.
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"azazel scratch" <warlock.DeleteThis@ispwest.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> >> "azazel scratch" <warlock.DeleteThis@ispwest.com> wrote in message
> >> news:f7dldf01840@enews2.newsguy.com...
> >>
> >
> >>> and a lot of their employees are illegal immigrant Mexicans.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Most of their employees in this location aren't Hispanic.
> >
> > What difference does it make? They are people trying to make a living,
> > just like me.
> >
> >> Ted
> >> Who Wal Mart, Sears, Macy's, and every other national chain hires

I didn't say that, you need to watch your attribution.

> >> But
> >> the biggest reason immigrants enter the US illegally is jobs. Illegal
> >> immigrant Mexicans are now doing jobs that Americans used to do. They
> >> are now building homes doing the framing, plumbing, electrical,
flooring,
> >> tiling, sheetrock, etc. Twenty years ago all of the jobs required in
> >> homebuilding were done by young Americans. Union contractors used to
go
> >> to the union hall and hire extra help but now find it easier and
cheaper
> >> to hire illegals. It comes down to the bottom line. Why pay an
American
> >> college student $15 an hour to frame a house when you can pay an
illegal
> >> immigrant Mexican $5 an hour? Immigration laws should be enforced and
> >> anyone found to be residing illegally in the US should be deported.

That won't do diddly squat as many have observed before. The only thing
that
will solve the problem is greatly increasing the penalties for knowingly
hiring
illegals, and making it an administrative violation for unknowingly hiring
illegals
the same as OSHA does for workplace safety, and giving the INS the power to
call for unexpected inspections, and power to audit employer's books.

> >> Citizenship should not be conferred upon any child born in the US whose
> >> parents are here illegally.

This won't work, either. If the child is not born in a foreign country that
country
cannot be compelled to accept it as a citizen. If we do not grant
citizenship then
the baby becomes a "man without a country" if the country their parents
originated
from doesen't issue citizenship.

This is a problem that needs to be dealt with in the United Nations, just as
the
patent and copyright problems were dealt with there.

Ted
>
>
>
>
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Who would want to do that kind of work, for that kind of money, when one can
find work in an air conditioned Wal-Mart distribution center for $15 an
hour?

When one drives down I-81, past the Wal-Mart distribution center in
Schuylkill County north of Harrisburg, they will see a big sign that says
"Workers wanted $14.50 an hour to start, plus benefits. Apply within, NO
experience needed will train." Why is it they can not find workers in an
economically depressed area?

mike

"azazel scratch" <warlock.TakeThisOut@ispwest.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>> "azazel scratch" <warlock.TakeThisOut@ispwest.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>>Why pay an American college student $15 an hour to frame a house when
>>>you can pay >>>an illegal immigrant Mexican $5 an hour?
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Mike Hunter wrote:
> Who would want to do that kind of work, for that kind of money, when one can
> find work in an air conditioned Wal-Mart distribution center for $15 an
> hour?
>
> When one drives down I-81, past the Wal-Mart distribution center in
> Schuylkill County north of Harrisburg, they will see a big sign that says
> "Workers wanted $14.50 an hour to start, plus benefits. Apply within, NO
> experience needed will train." Why is it they can not find workers in an
> economically depressed area?

Having a help wanted sign does not necessarily indicate a position
available. It could be a way to collect a list of applications and a
very public way to remind employee's that there *is* such a list and
that there are people waiting to take their jobs.


> "azazel scratch" <warlock.TakeThisOut@ispwest.com> wrote in message
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>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>>> "azazel scratch" <warlock.TakeThisOut@ispwest.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:f7dldf01840@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>>>
>>>> Why pay an American college student $15 an hour to frame a house when
>>>> you can pay >>>an illegal immigrant Mexican $5 an hour?
>
>
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The may be your opinion but they are also spending money on newspaper and
radio ads, because they are not able to find enough workers

mike

"F.H." <connectu2.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> Who would want to do that kind of work, for that kind of money, when one
>> can find work in an air conditioned Wal-Mart distribution center for $15
>> an hour?
>>
>> When one drives down I-81, past the Wal-Mart distribution center in
>> Schuylkill County north of Harrisburg, they will see a big sign that says
>> "Workers wanted $14.50 an hour to start, plus benefits. Apply within, NO
>> experience needed will train." Why is it they can not find workers in an
>> economically depressed area?
>
> Having a help wanted sign does not necessarily indicate a position
> available. It could be a way to collect a list of applications and a very
> public way to remind employee's that there *is* such a list and that there
> are people waiting to take their jobs.
>
>
>> "azazel scratch" <warlock.DeleteThis@ispwest.com> wrote in message
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>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:s9Jmi.723$I76.155@trnddc05...
>>>> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>>>> "azazel scratch" <warlock.DeleteThis@ispwest.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:f7dldf01840@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Why pay an American college student $15 an hour to frame a house when
>>>>> you can pay >>>an illegal immigrant Mexican $5 an hour?
>>
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Mike Hunter wrote:
> The may be your opinion but they are also spending money on newspaper and
> radio ads, because they are not able to find enough workers

And this negates my point or broadens it to include PR in the local
community? Seems to have worked on you.

>
> mike
>
> "F.H." <connectu2.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>> Who would want to do that kind of work, for that kind of money, when one
>>> can find work in an air conditioned Wal-Mart distribution center for $15
>>> an hour?
>>>
>>> When one drives down I-81, past the Wal-Mart distribution center in
>>> Schuylkill County north of Harrisburg, they will see a big sign that says
>>> "Workers wanted $14.50 an hour to start, plus benefits. Apply within, NO
>>> experience needed will train." Why is it they can not find workers in an
>>> economically depressed area?
>> Having a help wanted sign does not necessarily indicate a position
>> available. It could be a way to collect a list of applications and a very
>> public way to remind employee's that there *is* such a list and that there
>> are people waiting to take their jobs.
>>
>>
>>> "azazel scratch" <warlock.TakeThisOut@ispwest.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:s9Jmi.723$I76.155@trnddc05...
>>>>> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>>>>> "azazel scratch" <warlock.TakeThisOut@ispwest.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:f7dldf01840@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why pay an American college student $15 an hour to frame a house when
>>>>>> you can pay >>>an illegal immigrant Mexican $5 an hour?
>
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