Silverado vs Chevrolet pickups (3500 series)

On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:36:31 GMT, Jonathan <Fire_Capt651.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Ignoramus32140" <ignoramus32140.TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.32140.invalid> wrote in message
> news:buqao.jht.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>
>> Jonathan, so, then, what is the difference between 2500 HD and 3500
>> models?
>>
> Greetings,
>
> There are only two significant differences between the 2500HD and the 3500
> (not counting the dual rear wheels, but you can get a 3500 with the
> single-rear-wheel option if you want). On the 3500 there are a few
> additional leaf springs on the rear axle and larger tires (265-75R16's I
> believe, as compared to the 2500HD's 235-75R16's). However, the stock rear
> axle ratio on the 2500HD is 3.73:1 where I believe the stock ratio for the
> 3500 is 4.10:1, although you can order a 2500HD with a 4.10 rear if you
> want.

Thanks for a godo summary. I think that those extra springs allow for
extra carrying cargo capacity (like being able to load a heavy machine
in the back).

> With that in mind, the dual rear wheels make the truck harder to
> park, and

absolutely

> the 3.73 rear axle is just a little better on mileage than the 4.10 without
> sacrificing all that much in towing capacity. FWIW, my '04 is rated to tow
> 12,500# with a WD hitch or 15,500# with a gooseneck in the bed. Either way,
> the 2500HD is overkill for your 3500# boat!

Sure, though it is better to have an overkill than my Dodge RAM
POS experience.

> Also, starting in '06 the
> Allison now has 6 speeds instead of the 5 that mine has - helps to squeeze
> out just a little more MPG on the highway.

Yes. Very nice.

I definitely want a diesel vehicle, I have a diesel generator also and
like diesels. As for 2500HD vs single wheel 3500, I am still
deciding.

Thank you Jonathan for spending time to answer my question.


i

> Cheers - Jonathan
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Silverado vs Chevrolet pickups (3500 series) 

Greetings,

I have not priced trucks since I purchased mine, but I guess you'd have to
look at the difference in real dollars between a 2500HD vs. a 3500 with
single rear wheels and decide if the extra leaf springs and larger stock
tires are worth the price. It's pretty cheap to add an extra leaf or two
yourself and just upsize the tires when you wear the stock ones out.

All other stuff aside, I can very much recommend getting the crew cab (which
I have and love the extra room). I can also recommend getting a spray-in
bed liner (I got Line-X), but other than an aux fuel filter I've not made
any significant modifications to my truck. I thought the LB7 series Duramax
was powerful when I bought mine, but the new high output ones are real
bruisers. Even with this being a pretty heavy truck, the back wheels still
like to break loose unexpectedly with an empty bed.

One last item, the new regulations for sulfer in diesel fuel are going into
effect in '07. The new ultra-low sulfer fuels will have 15 parts per
million or less, while the current low-sulfer fuels have 500 ppm. There are
warnings everywhere that state you absolutely cannot use the current 500 ppm
fuel in a vehicle designed for the new 15ppm fuel or it will damage your
motor (although you will be able to use the 15 ppm fuel in an older truck
designed for 500 ppm), and fuel quality problems are seldom if ever covered
under warranty. Since not all gas stations will have the new fuel right
away then that could be an issue if you bought a new truck and couldn't find
anywhere to fill it up! Therefore, it would pay to find a truck that was
rated for the older 500 ppm fuel and buy it as soon as possible so you won't
have any problems when the switch goes into full effect. Just something to
think about...

Cheers - Jonathan

"Ignoramus4299" <ignoramus4299 DeleteThis @NOSPAM.4299.invalid> wrote in message
news:c123v.2o5.17.1@news.alt.net...
> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:36:31 GMT, Jonathan <Fire_Capt651 DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> "Ignoramus32140" <ignoramus32140 DeleteThis @NOSPAM.32140.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:buqao.jht.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>
>>> Jonathan, so, then, what is the difference between 2500 HD and 3500
>>> models?
>>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> There are only two significant differences between the 2500HD and the
>> 3500
>> (not counting the dual rear wheels, but you can get a 3500 with the
>> single-rear-wheel option if you want). On the 3500 there are a few
>> additional leaf springs on the rear axle and larger tires (265-75R16's I
>> believe, as compared to the 2500HD's 235-75R16's). However, the stock
>> rear
>> axle ratio on the 2500HD is 3.73:1 where I believe the stock ratio for
>> the
>> 3500 is 4.10:1, although you can order a 2500HD with a 4.10 rear if you
>> want.
>
> Thanks for a godo summary. I think that those extra springs allow for
> extra carrying cargo capacity (like being able to load a heavy machine
> in the back).
>
>> With that in mind, the dual rear wheels make the truck harder to
>> park, and
>
> absolutely
>
>> the 3.73 rear axle is just a little better on mileage than the 4.10
>> without
>> sacrificing all that much in towing capacity. FWIW, my '04 is rated to
>> tow
>> 12,500# with a WD hitch or 15,500# with a gooseneck in the bed. Either
>> way,
>> the 2500HD is overkill for your 3500# boat!
>
> Sure, though it is better to have an overkill than my Dodge RAM
> POS experience.
>
>> Also, starting in '06 the
>> Allison now has 6 speeds instead of the 5 that mine has - helps to
>> squeeze
>> out just a little more MPG on the highway.
>
> Yes. Very nice.
>
> I definitely want a diesel vehicle, I have a diesel generator also and
> like diesels. As for 2500HD vs single wheel 3500, I am still
> deciding.
>
> Thank you Jonathan for spending time to answer my question.
>
>
> i
>
>> Cheers - Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
 >> Stay informed about: Silverado vs Chevrolet pickups (3500 series) 

El Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:30:58 -0400, Roy escribió:

> Hey idiot!! Been waiting for you to prove me wrong, down a couple of
> threads in the 4X4 mileage thread.

The only person here to whom that insult might apply is you, for going
so wildly off topic. Perhaps you haven't noiced, but this thread is about
Silverado vs Chevrolet pickups. If you have a gripe in another thread,
then take it up there.

And it wouldn't hurt your credibility any to post verifiable facts rather
than kindergarten insults. Correct or incorrect, SnoMan posts
information that can be objectively proven or disproven, a practice you
would do well to emulate rather than belittle.

--
Warren Post
Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras
http://srcopan.vze.com/
 >> Stay informed about: Silverado vs Chevrolet pickups (3500 series) 

"Warren Post" <wpost.TakeThisOut@hondutel.hn> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.10.05.23.23.12.537085@hondutel.hn...
> El Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:30:58 -0400, Roy escribió:
>
>> Hey idiot!! Been waiting for you to prove me wrong, down a couple of
>> threads in the 4X4 mileage thread.
>
> The only person here to whom that insult might apply is you, for going
> so wildly off topic. Perhaps you haven't noiced, but this thread is about
> Silverado vs Chevrolet pickups. If you have a gripe in another thread,
> then take it up there.

Looks like it would apply to you seeing as you are off topic as well.pkb

If you are going to play net nanny ya can't have it both way's


>
> And it wouldn't hurt your credibility any to post verifiable facts rather
> than kindergarten insults. Correct or incorrect, SnoMan posts
> information that can be objectively proven or disproven, a practice you
> would do well to emulate rather than belittle.


I told you where to find veriable facts, look it up. Or you can look around
here and see it being pointed out by others as well.

No pal you can emulate him. It would seem based on your post you two are of
the same ilk.
 >> Stay informed about: Silverado vs Chevrolet pickups (3500 series) 

On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 04:43:03 GMT, Jonathan <Fire_Capt651.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I have not priced trucks since I purchased mine, but I guess you'd have to
> look at the difference in real dollars between a 2500HD vs. a 3500 with
> single rear wheels and decide if the extra leaf springs and larger stock
> tires are worth the price. It's pretty cheap to add an extra leaf or two
> yourself and just upsize the tires when you wear the stock ones out.

I will definitely check it.

> All other stuff aside, I can very much recommend getting the crew cab (which
> I have and love the extra room).

I agree wholeheartedly. I have a four door extended cab now, it is
great, but I would rather have a full four door cab.

> I can also recommend getting a spray-in bed liner (I got Line-X),

Yes, I have bedliner now and I would not want to use a truck any other
way.

I will also look into getting a removable truck cap.

> but other than an aux fuel filter I've not made any significant
> modifications to my truck. I thought the LB7 series Duramax was
> powerful when I bought mine, but the new high output ones are real
> bruisers. Even with this being a pretty heavy truck, the back
> wheels still like to break loose unexpectedly with an empty bed.

What do you mean here, are you just referring to bumpy ride or wheels
slipping?

> One last item, the new regulations for sulfer in diesel fuel are going into
> effect in '07. The new ultra-low sulfer fuels will have 15 parts per
> million or less, while the current low-sulfer fuels have 500 ppm. There are
> warnings everywhere that state you absolutely cannot use the current 500 ppm
> fuel in a vehicle designed for the new 15ppm fuel or it will damage your
> motor (although you will be able to use the 15 ppm fuel in an older truck
> designed for 500 ppm), and fuel quality problems are seldom if ever covered
> under warranty. Since not all gas stations will have the new fuel right
> away then that could be an issue if you bought a new truck and couldn't find
> anywhere to fill it up! Therefore, it would pay to find a truck that was
> rated for the older 500 ppm fuel and buy it as soon as possible so you won't
> have any problems when the switch goes into full effect. Just something to
> think about...

Ouch, something to think about, for sure. Thanks Jonathan.

igor

> Cheers - Jonathan
>
> "Ignoramus4299" <ignoramus4299.DeleteThis@NOSPAM.4299.invalid> wrote in message
> news:c123v.2o5.17.1@news.alt.net...
>> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:36:31 GMT, Jonathan <Fire_Capt651.DeleteThis@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Ignoramus32140" <ignoramus32140.DeleteThis@NOSPAM.32140.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:buqao.jht.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan, so, then, what is the difference between 2500 HD and 3500
>>>> models?
>>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> There are only two significant differences between the 2500HD and the
>>> 3500
>>> (not counting the dual rear wheels, but you can get a 3500 with the
>>> single-rear-wheel option if you want). On the 3500 there are a few
>>> additional leaf springs on the rear axle and larger tires (265-75R16's I
>>> believe, as compared to the 2500HD's 235-75R16's). However, the stock
>>> rear
>>> axle ratio on the 2500HD is 3.73:1 where I believe the stock ratio for
>>> the
>>> 3500 is 4.10:1, although you can order a 2500HD with a 4.10 rear if you
>>> want.
>>
>> Thanks for a godo summary. I think that those extra springs allow for
>> extra carrying cargo capacity (like being able to load a heavy machine
>> in the back).
>>
>>> With that in mind, the dual rear wheels make the truck harder to
>>> park, and
>>
>> absolutely
>>
>>> the 3.73 rear axle is just a little better on mileage than the 4.10
>>> without
>>> sacrificing all that much in towing capacity. FWIW, my '04 is rated to
>>> tow
>>> 12,500# with a WD hitch or 15,500# with a gooseneck in the bed. Either
>>> way,
>>> the 2500HD is overkill for your 3500# boat!
>>
>> Sure, though it is better to have an overkill than my Dodge RAM
>> POS experience.
>>
>>> Also, starting in '06 the
>>> Allison now has 6 speeds instead of the 5 that mine has - helps to
>>> squeeze
>>> out just a little more MPG on the highway.
>>
>> Yes. Very nice.
>>
>> I definitely want a diesel vehicle, I have a diesel generator also and
>> like diesels. As for 2500HD vs single wheel 3500, I am still
>> deciding.
>>
>> Thank you Jonathan for spending time to answer my question.
>>
>>
>> i
>>
>>> Cheers - Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Silverado vs Chevrolet pickups (3500 series) 

"Warren Post" <wpost RemoveThis @hondutel.hn> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.10.05.23.23.12.537085@hondutel.hn...
> El Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:30:58 -0400, Roy escribió:
>
>> Hey idiot!! Been waiting for you to prove me wrong, down a couple of
>> threads in the 4X4 mileage thread.
>
> The only person here to whom that insult might apply is you, for going
> so wildly off topic. Perhaps you haven't noiced, but this thread is about
> Silverado vs Chevrolet pickups. If you have a gripe in another thread,
> then take it up there.
>
> And it wouldn't hurt your credibility any to post verifiable facts rather
> than kindergarten insults. Correct or incorrect, SnoMan posts
> information that can be objectively proven or disproven, a practice you
> would do well to emulate rather than belittle.
>
> --
> Warren Post
> Santa Rosa de Copán, Honduras
> http://srcopan.vze.com/
>

A Silverado is a Chevrolet. Roy is calling Snoman because he needs to be.
 >> Stay informed about: Silverado vs Chevrolet pickups (3500 series)