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peternoon

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:17 am
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I have an old Celica GT 1990 which begins to have trouble starting as
the weather gets colder. It looks like there is not enough power to
start the engine because the ignition makes contact but struggles.
Both the battery and the alternator were replaced in the last 2 years.
The roadside rescue people have not found a short circuit that could
be draining the battery. The car was serviced not long ago so the
spark plugs, oil filter, etc must be in good condition. Any
suggestions as where else I can look or a possible solution?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:55 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:55 am
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On Sep 29, 7:29 am, "Go Mavs" <M....DeleteThis@Maverickz.com> wrote:
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:58 am
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peternoon wrote:
> I have an old Celica GT 1990 which begins to have trouble starting as
> the weather gets colder. It looks like there is not enough power to
> start the engine because the ignition makes contact but struggles.
> Both the battery and the alternator were replaced in the last 2 years.
> The roadside rescue people have not found a short circuit that could
> be draining the battery. The car was serviced not long ago so the
> spark plugs, oil filter, etc must be in good condition. Any
> suggestions as where else I can look or a possible solution?
>
On a seventeen year old car it could be many things, but you can do some
basic checking and maintenance to eliminate some possibilities. First,
the battery cables, check for corrosion, fraying, breaks, ect., and
clean both ends of both battery cables. Remember that grounds are very
important. Second, make sure you have a fresh battery, with clean
terminals. If you accomplish those two basic items and you still have
starting issues, your problem may be the starter itself. The starter can
be checked for excessive amp draw that would create your problem. I
would suggest to do the cheapest fixes first to save some money IMHO.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:55 pm
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On Sep 29, 11:58 am, "Ph@Boy" <u....TakeThisOut@example.net> wrote:
> peternoon wrote:
> > I have an old Celica GT 1990 which begins to have trouble starting as
> > the weather gets colder. It looks like there is not enough power to
> > start the engine because the ignition makes contact but struggles.

By "enough power to start" with just one click the engine starts but
idles rough and dies? Or the car has a hard start meaning you have to
crank along time before the engine starts?

The best battery terminal cleaners is a can of coca-cola. =)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:16 pm
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EdV wrote:
> On Sep 29, 11:58 am, "Ph@Boy" <u....DeleteThis@example.net> wrote:
> > peternoon wrote:
> > > I have an old Celica GT 1990 which begins to have trouble starting as
> > > the weather gets colder. It looks like there is not enough power to
> > > start the engine because the ignition makes contact but struggles.
>
> By "enough power to start" with just one click the engine starts but
> idles rough and dies? Or the car has a hard start meaning you have to
> crank along time before the engine starts?
>
> The best battery terminal cleaners is a can of coca-cola. =)

No, I mean I can hear a noise as if contact has been made but no
"starting action"; the battery indicator shows just on the edge of the
12V mark. The only way it starts then is by either doing the exercise
in the manual whereby you turn the key and press the accelerator pedal
for a few seconds, then let go and wait for a minute then turn the key
without pressing the accelerator pedal; or if this does not work, then
leave it for 15 minutes and try again.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:42 pm
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And this only happens on cold starts?, there's no problem starting up
when the engine is already warm, right?
I remember reading a similar post here, or maybe in camry groups,
regarding a defective cold start injector, you may want to search old
post or wait 'till our resident experts give you more tips. good
luck.
For the mean time, I suggest you you load up a bottle of fuel
injection cleaner before filling up with a tank of gas, top-tier gas
that is.

>
> No, I mean I can hear a noise as if contact has been made but no
> "starting action"; the battery indicator shows just on the edge of the
> 12V mark. The only way it starts then is by either doing the exercise
> in the manual whereby you turn the key and press the accelerator pedal
> for a few seconds, then let go and wait for a minute then turn the key
> without pressing the accelerator pedal; or if this does not work, then
> leave it for 15 minutes and try again.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:08 pm
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EdV wrote:
> And this only happens on cold starts?, there's no problem starting up
> when the engine is already warm, right?
> I remember reading a similar post here, or maybe in camry groups,
> regarding a defective cold start injector, you may want to search old
> post or wait 'till our resident experts give you more tips. good
> luck.
> For the mean time, I suggest you you load up a bottle of fuel
> injection cleaner before filling up with a tank of gas, top-tier gas
> that is.

Yes the problem is there only on cold starts

Thanks for the feed-back so far
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:35 pm
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"peternoon" <peternoon.RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> EdV wrote:
>> On Sep 29, 11:58 am, "Ph@Boy" <u....RemoveThis@example.net> wrote:
>> > peternoon wrote:
>> > > I have an old Celica GT 1990 which begins to have trouble starting
>> > > as
>> > > the weather gets colder. It looks like there is not enough power to
>> > > start the engine because the ignition makes contact but struggles.
>>
>> By "enough power to start" with just one click the engine starts but
>> idles rough and dies? Or the car has a hard start meaning you have to
>> crank along time before the engine starts?
>>
>> The best battery terminal cleaners is a can of coca-cola. =)
>
> No, I mean I can hear a noise as if contact has been made but no
> "starting action"; the battery indicator shows just on the edge of the
> 12V mark. The only way it starts then is by either doing the exercise
> in the manual whereby you turn the key and press the accelerator pedal
> for a few seconds, then let go and wait for a minute then turn the key
> without pressing the accelerator pedal; or if this does not work, then
> leave it for 15 minutes and try again.
>

When you say that there is no starting action, I assume you mean that the
engine is not turning over. If the engine is not turning over, the cold
start injector is not the cause.

Check the condition of the battery cables and clamps, check the condition of
the battery, and check the starter solenoid.
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Ray O
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