Porsche Cayman built in Finland?

> I'm not quite sure if this was an error, but a local newspaper did a
> review on the Porsche Cayman, and it listed that it is built in
> Finland. Is there any truth to this?

Yes, they are made by Valmet in Finland:

http://www.valmet-automotive.com/automotive/cms.nsf/pages/8FF620672E42...EC22571
http://www.autointell.com/News-2003/September-2003/September-2003-2/Se...mber-10
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Porsche could not sell this car at a profit if It paid German workers wages
to build it in Germany. Would you be German If you were born in Finland?
Guess...
"Ottar Holstad" <no DeleteThis @no.no> wrote in message
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>> I'm not quite sure if this was an error, but a local newspaper did a
>> review on the Porsche Cayman, and it listed that it is built in
>> Finland. Is there any truth to this?
>
> Yes, they are made by Valmet in Finland:
>
> http://www.valmet-automotive.com/automotive/cms.nsf/pages/8FF620672E42...EC22571
> http://www.autointell.com/News-2003/September-2003/September-2003-2/Se...mber-10
>
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> Porsche could not sell this car at a profit if It paid German workers
> wages to build it in Germany.

I don't know for sure, but if I had to take a guess I would say wages are
higher in Finland than in Germany. I live in Norway, not far from Finland,
and here the price of "floor-level" workers are higher than anywhere else.
That said, I don't think all Boxster's and Cayman's are made in Finland.
Maybe they outsource only some of the production when demand is at the
highest, like just after a new model is launched.

>ould you be German If you were born in Finland?
In the same way that a Toyota made in UK is a japaneese car
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"Ian" <analogian.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not quite sure if this was an error, but a local newspaper did a
> review on the Porsche Cayman, and it listed that it is built in
> Finland. Is there any truth to this? I have nothing against Finland,
> it's just that I've always thought Porsche built *all* of their
> automobiles in Germany.
>
>
> --
> Ian

Valmet makes Boxsters and Caymans as well as Saab, Lada, Talbot and Opel.
They've also developed/produced military firearms, aircraft and paper mill
machinery.
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Boxsters have been built both in Stuttgart and Finland since their
introduction. In actuality, Porsche builds and paints all the bodies and
engines and then ships complete "kits" by train to Valmet for final
assembly. Both internal and independent inspectors have noted that the cars
assembled in Finland are not only equal in quality, but in some cases exceed
the quality of the cars built in Germany. Essentially...there is no
difference, but it gives Porsche additional capacity without having to
invest in additional buildings or personnel.

I hadn't seen it discussed, but it would be natural for Porsche to assemble
at least some of the Caymans in Finland.

"Ian" <analogian RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not quite sure if this was an error, but a local newspaper did a
> review on the Porsche Cayman, and it listed that it is built in
> Finland. Is there any truth to this? I have nothing against Finland,
> it's just that I've always thought Porsche built *all* of their
> automobiles in Germany.
>
>
> --
> Ian
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I see, a generic Porsche..
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> "Ian" <analogian.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e4ris5$p7l$1@emma.aioe.org...
>> I'm not quite sure if this was an error, but a local newspaper did a
>> review on the Porsche Cayman, and it listed that it is built in
>> Finland. Is there any truth to this? I have nothing against Finland,
>> it's just that I've always thought Porsche built *all* of their
>> automobiles in Germany.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ian
>
> Valmet makes Boxsters and Caymans as well as Saab, Lada, Talbot and Opel.
> They've also developed/produced military firearms, aircraft and paper mill
> machinery.
>
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> I hadn't seen it discussed, but it would be natural for Porsche to assemble
> at least some of the Caymans in Finland.

Many, if not all, Caymans are being assembled in Finland. You can tell by a
letter code in your VIN:

S = Stuttgart
U = Uusikaupunki

I don't recall seeing an "S" VIN in our group of Cayman enthusiasts at
www.caymanclub.net
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<Would you be German If you were born in Finland?>

So, if my wife had my son in Canada while visiting the hockey hall of fame,
my son would be Canadian?

BMW assembles the Z line here in the States, so does that make them American
cars? Most Hondas and Nissans are built in the States, does that make them
American? Are Toyotas Mexican cars?

To answer your question...it is not where you were born, bu of what
nationality are your parents...
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On Sat, 27 May 2006, Devils944S2 wrote:

> To answer your question...it is not where you were born, bu of what
> nationality are your parents...

My wife and I are both English, but both of our daughters were born in the
US. They are both US citizens.
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"Steve Thompson" <smt RemoveThis @vgersoft.com> wrote
> On Sat, 27 May 2006, Devils944S2 wrote:
>
>> To answer your question...it is not where you were born, bu of what
>> nationality are your parents...
>
> My wife and I are both English, but both of our daughters were born in the
> US. They are both US citizens.

Actually, I believe that they have dual citizenship (if you or your wife
have retained your British citinzenship).

FloydR
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> So, if my wife had my son in Canada while visiting the hockey hall of fame,
> my son would be Canadian?

Yes. If born in Canada, your son would have Canadian citizenship.
Canadian nationality law confers citizenship simply on the basis of
birth in Canada. Additionally, a child born outside Canada to a
Canadian parent will also hold Canadian citizenship.

(snip)
>
> To answer your question...it is not where you were born, bu of what
> nationality are your parents...

The answer is.... it depends on the country in question. Some
countries follow the legal concept of jus sanguinis (law of the blood),
meaning that citizenship is passed from parent to child. Other
countries follow the concept of jus soli (law of the soil), meaning
that citzenship is granted on the basis of being born within that
country's borders.

Many jus soli countries have jus sanguinis provisions to allow their
citizens to also pass citizenship to children born abroad.

Also, some jus soli countries have added the provision that if a person
is born within their borders they will only receive citizenship if at
least one parent is either a citizen or a non-citizen who has been
admitted for permanent residency.

The US and Canada are the two major countries that still grant
citizenship solely on the basis of birthplace without taking parentage
into account.
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> So, if my wife had my son in Canada while visiting the hockey hall of fame,
> my son would be Canadian?

Yes. If born in Canada, your son would have Canadian citizenship.
Canadian nationality law confers citizenship simply on the basis of
birth in Canada. Additionally, a child born outside Canada to a
Canadian parent will also hold Canadian citizenship.

(snip)
>
> To answer your question...it is not where you were born, bu of what
> nationality are your parents...

The answer is.... it depends on the country in question. Some
countries follow the legal concept of jus sanguinis (law of the blood),
meaning that citizenship is passed from parent to child. Other
countries follow the concept of jus soli (law of the soil), meaning
that citzenship is granted on the basis of being born within that
country's borders.

Many jus soli countries have jus sanguinis provisions to allow their
citizens to also pass citizenship to children born abroad.

Also, some jus soli countries have added the provision that if a person
is born within their borders they will only receive citizenship if at
least one parent is either a citizen or a non-citizen who has been
admitted for permanent residency.

The US and Canada are the two major countries that still grant
citizenship solely on the basis of birthplace without taking parentage
into account.
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On Sun, 28 May 2006, Floyd Rogers wrote:

> "Steve Thompson" <smt.TakeThisOut@vgersoft.com> wrote
> > On Sat, 27 May 2006, Devils944S2 wrote:
> >
> >> To answer your question...it is not where you were born, bu of what
> >> nationality are your parents...
> >
> > My wife and I are both English, but both of our daughters were born in the
> > US. They are both US citizens.
>
> Actually, I believe that they have dual citizenship (if you or your wife
> have retained your British citinzenship).

Yes, that is true.
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