Catalytic Converter Problems :(

On Feb 13, 4:52 pm, Tegger <teg... DeleteThis @tegger.c0m> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote innews:1171412254.876849.12720@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 2:43 pm, Tegger <teg... DeleteThis @tegger.c0m> wrote:
> >> JohnDavidHick... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote in news:1171405287.697855.162790
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> >> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so
> >> > i cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off
> >> > and ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so
> >> > i can pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat
> >> > is hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> >> What's the specific problem?
>
> > its throwing the check engine light code for catalytic converter
>
> SO... What's the code?
> P0420?
> P1245657890?
> Cough it up.
>
> When did this start?
> Did you replace the secondary O2 sensor or the primary?
> Why was the O2 sensor replaced?
> Has anyone checked for exhaust system leaks, cracked exhaust manifold?
>
> > because i took too long replacing the o2 sensor.
>
> How do you know that's the reason? And which sensor? What was the actual
> code?
>
> > i am not sure of the
> > specific problem,
>
> Then you are embarking on an expensive experiment that may lead you
> absolutely nowhere except to a thinner wallet.
>
> > so i am wondering, what would be the best course of
> > action: 1) take my cat conv off until inspection? (would it hurt my
> > engine, would i get pulled over, etc.) 2) also i was thinking about
> > taking my car into a local cat shop but they dont do the labor for
> > taking it off, so i also need to know how to take the cat off.
>
> Jeez, before you go running yourself directly into the nearest brick
> wall, HELP US HELP YOU. This means giving DETAILS.
>
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> Tegger
>
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word. may take a few--i'll get the info.
thx
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JohnDavidHickman.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote in news:1171405287.697855.162790
@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:

> i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so i
> cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off and
> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat is
> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>



What's the specific problem?


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JohnDavidHickman.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.

what's the problem?

> Just moved to Cali so i
> cant get an aftermarket cat.

rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
spec.

> Dont know if i should take it off and
> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> pass inspection....just dont know.

fix the sensors and see what happens first.

> i do know that the old cat is
> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent

a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.
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JohnDavidHickman.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote in
news:1171412254.876849.12720@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 13, 2:43 pm, Tegger <teg....DeleteThis@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>> JohnDavidHick....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote in news:1171405287.697855.162790
>> @p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so
>> > i cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off
>> > and ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so
>> > i can pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat
>> > is hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>>
>> What's the specific problem?
>>
>>
>>
>
> its throwing the check engine light code for catalytic converter



SO... What's the code?
P0420?
P1245657890?
Cough it up.

When did this start?
Did you replace the secondary O2 sensor or the primary?
Why was the O2 sensor replaced?
Has anyone checked for exhaust system leaks, cracked exhaust manifold?



> because i took too long replacing the o2 sensor.



How do you know that's the reason? And which sensor? What was the actual
code?



> i am not sure of the
> specific problem,



Then you are embarking on an expensive experiment that may lead you
absolutely nowhere except to a thinner wallet.



> so i am wondering, what would be the best course of
> action: 1) take my cat conv off until inspection? (would it hurt my
> engine, would i get pulled over, etc.) 2) also i was thinking about
> taking my car into a local cat shop but they dont do the labor for
> taking it off, so i also need to know how to take the cat off.
>


Jeez, before you go running yourself directly into the nearest brick
wall, HELP US HELP YOU. This means giving DETAILS.


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Tegger

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<JohnDavidHickman.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so i
> cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off and
> ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat is
> hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> thx,
> Johnner

Depending on your mileage, it might be covered under your
emissions warrenty, take it to the dealer and have him check..
Your talking about a $1000, asking won't hurt!>
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On Feb 13, 6:35 pm, JohnDavidHick... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 13, 4:52 pm, Tegger <teg... RemoveThis @tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>
>
> > JohnDavidHick... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote innews:1171412254.876849.12720@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > On Feb 13, 2:43 pm, Tegger <teg... RemoveThis @tegger.c0m> wrote:
> > >> JohnDavidHick... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote in news:1171405287.697855.162790
> > >> @p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
>
> > >> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so
> > >> > i cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off
> > >> > and ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so
> > >> > i can pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat
> > >> > is hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> > >> What's the specific problem?
>
> > > its throwing the check engine light code forcatalyticconverter
>
> > SO... What's the code?
> > P0420?
> > P1245657890?
> > Cough it up.
>
> > When did this start?
> > Did you replace the secondary O2 sensor or the primary?
> > Why was the O2 sensor replaced?
> > Has anyone checked for exhaust system leaks, cracked exhaust manifold?
>
> > > because i took too long replacing the o2 sensor.
>
> > How do you know that's the reason? And which sensor? What was the actual
> > code?
>
> > > i am not sure of the
> > > specific problem,
>
> > Then you are embarking on an expensive experiment that may lead you
> > absolutely nowhere except to a thinner wallet.
>
> > > so i am wondering, what would be the best course of
> > > action: 1) take my cat conv off until inspection? (would it hurt my
> > > engine, would i get pulled over, etc.) 2) also i was thinking about
> > > taking my car into a local cat shop but they dont do the labor for
> > > taking it off, so i also need to know how to take the cat off.
>
> > Jeez, before you go running yourself directly into the nearest brick
> > wall, HELP US HELP YOU. This means giving DETAILS.
>
> > --
> > Tegger
>
> > The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
> word. may take a few--i'll get the info.
> thx

ok. the code is P0420.
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On Feb 13, 6:57 pm, "Andy & Carol" <a....TakeThisOut@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> <JohnDavidHick....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1171405287.697855.162790@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>
> >i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs. Just moved to Cali so i
> > cant get an aftermarket cat. Dont know if i should take it off and
> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> > pass inspection....just dont know. i do know that the old cat is
> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> > thx,
> > Johnner
>
> Depending on your mileage, it might be covered under your
> emissions warrenty, take it to the dealer and have him check..
> Your talking about a $1000, asking won't hurt!>

its got 105K
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On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor....RemoveThis@bad.example.net> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
>
> what's the problem?
>
> > Just moved to Cali so i
> > cant get an aftermarket cat.
>
> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
> spec.
>
> > Dont know if i should take it off and
> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> > pass inspection....just dont know.
>
> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
>
> > i do know that the old cat is
> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.
 >> Stay informed about: Catalytic Converter Problems :( 

On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor....RemoveThis@bad.example.net> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
>
> what's the problem?
>
> > Just moved to Cali so i
> > cant get an aftermarket cat.
>
> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
> spec.
>
> > Dont know if i should take it off and
> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> > pass inspection....just dont know.
>
> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
>
> > i do know that the old cat is
> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.

so i taking the car to a part shop that said they will put on a used
cat for $250, what do u think?
 >> Stay informed about: Catalytic Converter Problems :( 

On Feb 15, 6:18 pm, Tegger <teg....RemoveThis@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote in news:1171590577.383348.183860
> @s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor....RemoveThis@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >> JohnDavidHick....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
>
> >> what's the problem?
>
> >> > Just moved to Cali so i
> >> > cant get an aftermarket cat.
>
> >> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
> >> spec.
>
> >> > Dont know if i should take it off and
> >> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> >> > pass inspection....just dont know.
>
> >> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
>
> >> > i do know that the old cat is
> >> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> >> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.
>
> > so i taking the car to a part shop that said they will put on a used
> > cat for $250, what do u think?
>
> Is it certified?
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

ive got 105K but i found a guy that would put in a
reconditioned cat for $250. how easy it to just buy the cat off him
and put it in myself?
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On Feb 15, 6:18 pm, Tegger <teg....DeleteThis@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> JohnDavidHick....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote in news:1171590577.383348.183860
> @s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor....DeleteThis@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >> JohnDavidHick....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
>
> >> what's the problem?
>
> >> > Just moved to Cali so i
> >> > cant get an aftermarket cat.
>
> >> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
> >> spec.
>
> >> > Dont know if i should take it off and
> >> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
> >> > pass inspection....just dont know.
>
> >> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
>
> >> > i do know that the old cat is
> >> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>
> >> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.
>
> > so i taking the car to a part shop that said they will put on a used
> > cat for $250, what do u think?
>
> Is it certified?
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/

oh i didnt see the last comment, well im not sure, i just had a quick
convo with them, but i did ask would it be pass the emissions test,
and they said ya. but tomorrow i will get the full details, thanks man
you've been a great help
johnner
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JohnDavidHickman RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote in news:1171590577.383348.183860
@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 13, 7:56 pm, jim beam <spamvor... RemoveThis @bad.example.net> wrote:
>> JohnDavidHick... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>> > i have a 2001 honda civic ex with cat probs.
>>
>> what's the problem?
>>
>> > Just moved to Cali so i
>> > cant get an aftermarket cat.
>>
>> rubbish. aftermarket catalysts are perfectly legal here - if they meet
>> spec.
>>
>> > Dont know if i should take it off and
>> > ripp around like a bandit or take it off and get it repaired so i can
>> > pass inspection....just dont know.
>>
>> fix the sensors and see what happens first.
>>
>> > i do know that the old cat is
>> > hurting my engine so any feedback would be excellent
>>
>> a catalyst cannot hurt the engine.
>
> so i taking the car to a part shop that said they will put on a used
> cat for $250, what do u think?
>


Is it certified?

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JohnDavidHickman.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote in
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>
> ok. the code is P0420.
>


"Cat efficiency below threshold".

This error _may_ in fact be due to degradation of the cat. However...

Surely you are aware that you are covered under a Federal EPA warranty for
eight years or 80,000 miles for the cat? If you are under 80K and the cat
is original, you are in line for a new FREE cat! Bingo bango, we have a
winner! See your local Honda dealer.

If you're out of the Federal warranty, see here for some other suggestions:
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/p0420.html

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