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These are models that have performed well in Consumer Reports road tests
over the years and have proved to have several or more years of
better-than-average Used Car Verdict. They are listed alphabetically.
Best Used Cars
Acura Integra
Acura MDX
Acura RL
Acura RSX
Acura TL
BMW Z3, Z4
Buick Regal
Chevrolet Prizm
Ford Crown Victoria
Ford Escort
Mustang (V 
Honda Accord
Honda Civic
Honda Civic Hybrid
Honda CR-V
Honda Element
Honda Odyssey
Honda Pilot
Honda Prelude
Honda S2000
Infiniti FX35 (V6)
Infiniti G20
Infiniti G35
Infiniti I30, I35
Infiniti QX4
Lexus ES300, ES330
Lexus GS300/GS400, GS430
Lexus IS300
Lexus GX470
Lexus LS400, LS430
Lexus RX300, RX330
Lincoln Town Car
Mazda Millenia
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Mazda Protegé
Mercury Grand Marquis
Mitsubishi Galant
Nissan Altima
Nissan Maxima
Nissan Murano
Nissan Pathfinder
Pontiac Vibe
Subaru Forester
Subaru Impreza
Subaru Impreza
WRX, STi
Subaru Legacy
Subaru Outback
Toyota 4Runner
Toyota Avalon
Toyota Camry
Toyota Camry Solara
Toyota Celica
Toyota Corolla
Toyota Echo
Toyota Highlander
Toyota Land Cruiser
Toyota Matrix
Toyota Prius
Toyota RAV4
Toyota Sequoia
Toyota Sienna
Toyota Tundra
Worst Used Cars
BMW 7 Series
BMW X5 (V
Chevrolet Astro
Chevrolet Blazer
Chevrolet Express 1500
Chevrolet S-10 (4WD)
Chevrolet TrailBlazer
Chevrolet Venture
Chrysler Town & Country (AWD)
Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD)
GMC Envoy
GMC Jimmy
GMC Safari
GMC Savana 1500
GMC Sonoma (4WD)
Jaguar S-Type
Jaguar X-Type
Kia Sedona
Land Rover Discovery
Lincoln LS
Lincoln Navigator
Mercedes-Benz CLK
Mercedes-Benz E-Class (V
Oldsmobile Alero
Oldsmobile Bravada
Oldsmobile Silhouette
Pontiac Aztek
Pontiac Trans Sport/Montana
Saturn Vue (AWD)
Volkswagen Cabrio
Volkswagen Jetta
Volkswagen New Beetle
Volkswagen Passat Wagon (V6)
Volvo XC90
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"Jim Warman" <mechanic.DeleteThis@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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> So.... where does the Borgward Isabella stack up in there?
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> There is nothing worse than someone that has recently discovered <cut> and
> <paste>.
Hmm, ever notice how folks like yourself are experts at unsubstantial
dismissive insults? It's quite sad. If you want to discuss the topic then
debate consumer reports opinion or just have a cup of stfu like your wife
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:05 am
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You are discussing a three year old poll.. crossposting it across several
newsgroups no less... Nothing quite like discussing current events, is
there?
I drive those vehicles *I* choose to drive... others have mentioned the same
to you... yet you continue to browbeat the issue..
Perhaps you might pause and think that those that would choose one
particular brand or model over another, may be less likely to respond to a
Consumer Reports poll (let alone actually buy the magazine).
Did you respond to this poll? Did I? Did any others reading this? If we did,
what would we base our pleasure or displeasure on? Could our impressions be
considered objective?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:15 pm
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After over fifty five years in the busuness I an assuew you the experances
of others is a useless tool to determine if the vehicle you buy will be
reliable or not, once YOU purchase ONE. When one buys a used vehicle there
is no way one can know for sure how that one particular vehicle was used or
aboused or if it was maintained properly or not, no mater who made that
particualar vehicle, since every manufacture makes some that are not up to
snuff. The best way to choose a vehicle is to forget who made it, and judge
the ONE you intend to buy .
"Mr4701" <NoExists DeleteThis @Earth.net> wrote in message
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> http://autos.yahoo.com/consumerreports/article/best_and_worst_used_cars.html
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> These are models that have performed well in Consumer Reports road tests
> over the years and have proved to have several or more years of
> better-than-average Used Car Verdict. They are listed alphabetically.
>
> Best Used Cars
>
> Acura Integra
> Acura MDX
> Acura RL
> Acura RSX
> Acura TL
> BMW Z3, Z4
> Buick Regal
> Chevrolet Prizm
> Ford Crown Victoria
> Ford Escort
> Mustang (V
> Honda Accord
> Honda Civic
> Honda Civic Hybrid
> Honda CR-V
> Honda Element
> Honda Odyssey
> Honda Pilot
> Honda Prelude
> Honda S2000
> Infiniti FX35 (V6)
> Infiniti G20
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>
> Infiniti G35
> Infiniti I30, I35
> Infiniti QX4
> Lexus ES300, ES330
> Lexus GS300/GS400, GS430
> Lexus IS300
> Lexus GX470
> Lexus LS400, LS430
> Lexus RX300, RX330
> Lincoln Town Car
> Mazda Millenia
> Mazda MX-5 Miata
> Mazda Protegi
> Mercury Grand Marquis
> Mitsubishi Galant
> Nissan Altima
> Nissan Maxima
> Nissan Murano
> Nissan Pathfinder
> Pontiac Vibe
>
> Subaru Forester
> Subaru Impreza
> Subaru Impreza
> WRX, STi
> Subaru Legacy
> Subaru Outback
> Toyota 4Runner
> Toyota Avalon
> Toyota Camry
> Toyota Camry Solara
> Toyota Celica
> Toyota Corolla
> Toyota Echo
> Toyota Highlander
> Toyota Land Cruiser
> Toyota Matrix
> Toyota Prius
> Toyota RAV4
> Toyota Sequoia
> Toyota Sienna
> Toyota Tundra
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> Worst Used Cars
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> BMW 7 Series
> BMW X5 (V
> Chevrolet Astro
> Chevrolet Blazer
> Chevrolet Express 1500
> Chevrolet S-10 (4WD)
> Chevrolet TrailBlazer
> Chevrolet Venture
> Chrysler Town & Country (AWD)
> Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD)
> GMC Envoy
> GMC Jimmy
> GMC Safari
> GMC Savana 1500
> GMC Sonoma (4WD)
> Jaguar S-Type
> Jaguar X-Type
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> Kia Sedona
> Land Rover Discovery
> Lincoln LS
> Lincoln Navigator
> Mercedes-Benz CLK
> Mercedes-Benz E-Class (V
> Oldsmobile Alero
> Oldsmobile Bravada
> Oldsmobile Silhouette
> Pontiac Aztek
> Pontiac Trans Sport/Montana
> Saturn Vue (AWD)
> Volkswagen Cabrio
> Volkswagen Jetta
> Volkswagen New Beetle
> Volkswagen Passat Wagon (V6)
> Volvo XC90
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:07 pm
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"Jim Warman" <mechanic DeleteThis @telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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> You are discussing a three year old poll.. crossposting it across several
> newsgroups no less... Nothing quite like discussing current events, is
> there?
Actually, that poll was published in April, 2006, so it is not quite two
years old.
Polls based on short run data of new cars are notoriously suspect. The
wheels
dont usually fall off, even on Italian cars, until they are a few years old.
The GM cars are rumored to be doing better as far as quality and durability
over
the past couple of years. Time will tell whether they are classic or
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:12 pm
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HLS wrote:
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> "Jim Warman" <mechanic RemoveThis @telusplanet.net> wrote in message
> news:fSUkj.35831$fj2.32938@edtnps82...
>> You are discussing a three year old poll.. crossposting it across
>> several newsgroups no less... Nothing quite like discussing current
>> events, is there?
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> Actually, that poll was published in April, 2006, so it is not quite two
> years old.
The poll is more than 2 years old. It takes time to get the poll results
analyzed and the results in print.
> Polls based on short run data of new cars are notoriously suspect. The
> wheels
> dont usually fall off, even on Italian cars, until they are a few years
> old.
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> The GM cars are rumored to be doing better as far as quality and
> durability over
> the past couple of years. Time will tell whether they are classic or
> tragic.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:03 pm
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"Shawn" <diskette RemoveThis @floppy.drv> wrote in message
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> "Mr4701" <NoExists RemoveThis @Earth.net> wrote in message
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>> http://autos.yahoo.com/consumerreports/article/best_and_worst_used_cars.html
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>> These are models that have performed well in Consumer Reports road tests
>> over the years and have proved to have several or more years of
>> better-than-average Used Car Verdict. They are listed alphabetically.
>>
>
> I wonder why the Geo Metro (now known as the Chevy Metro) isn't listed.
>
Perhaps because Consumer Reports thought that the Geo Metro was average not
better or worse than average?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:22 am
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Mike hunt wrote:
> After over fifty five years in the busuness I an assuew you the experances
> of others is a useless tool to determine if the vehicle you buy will be
> reliable or not, once YOU purchase ONE. When one buys a used vehicle there
> is no way one can know for sure how that one particular vehicle was used or
> aboused or if it was maintained properly or not, no mater who made that
> particualar vehicle, since every manufacture makes some that are not up to
> snuff. The best way to choose a vehicle is to forget who made it, and judge
> the ONE you intend to buy .
I have to disagree with you on whether or not the experiences of others
is valuable.
If you were buying a 1987 model car, do you really think that a Yugo
would be as likely to go as far as a 1987 Honda Civic or a Ford Taurus?
While you're correct that one can't always determine how well a car is
maintained, each vehicle model has specific limitations. If bought an
Oldsmobile Cutlass Diesel, no matter how well you maintained it, chances
are that you would run into problems because of the limitations of the
diesel engine (although some of the engine lasted a long time).
Likewise, if you bought a used 1987 Ford Taurus, your chances of having
many trouble-free miles is higher than if you bought a 1985 Olds Cutlass
Ciera with the diesel engine or a '87 Yugo.
Well maintained automobiles have limitations on how long they last.
If you buy a used car model that doesn't last long, it's not going to
last as long as a used car that is a model that does last long.
IMHO, what you're saying is that how reliable a vehicle is has nothing
to do with how long it will last when you buy it used.
Jeff
> "Mr4701" <NoExists.RemoveThis@Earth.net> wrote in message
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>> http://autos.yahoo.com/consumerreports/article/best_and_worst_used_cars.html
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>> These are models that have performed well in Consumer Reports road tests
>> over the years and have proved to have several or more years of
>> better-than-average Used Car Verdict. They are listed alphabetically.
>>
>> Best Used Cars
>>
>> Acura Integra
>> Acura MDX
>> Acura RL
>> Acura RSX
>> Acura TL
>> BMW Z3, Z4
>> Buick Regal
>> Chevrolet Prizm
>> Ford Crown Victoria
>> Ford Escort
>> Mustang (V
>> Honda Accord
>> Honda Civic
>> Honda Civic Hybrid
>> Honda CR-V
>> Honda Element
>> Honda Odyssey
>> Honda Pilot
>> Honda Prelude
>> Honda S2000
>> Infiniti FX35 (V6)
>> Infiniti G20
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>>
>> Infiniti G35
>> Infiniti I30, I35
>> Infiniti QX4
>> Lexus ES300, ES330
>> Lexus GS300/GS400, GS430
>> Lexus IS300
>> Lexus GX470
>> Lexus LS400, LS430
>> Lexus RX300, RX330
>> Lincoln Town Car
>> Mazda Millenia
>> Mazda MX-5 Miata
>> Mazda Protegi
>> Mercury Grand Marquis
>> Mitsubishi Galant
>> Nissan Altima
>> Nissan Maxima
>> Nissan Murano
>> Nissan Pathfinder
>> Pontiac Vibe
>>
>> Subaru Forester
>> Subaru Impreza
>> Subaru Impreza
>> WRX, STi
>> Subaru Legacy
>> Subaru Outback
>> Toyota 4Runner
>> Toyota Avalon
>> Toyota Camry
>> Toyota Camry Solara
>> Toyota Celica
>> Toyota Corolla
>> Toyota Echo
>> Toyota Highlander
>> Toyota Land Cruiser
>> Toyota Matrix
>> Toyota Prius
>> Toyota RAV4
>> Toyota Sequoia
>> Toyota Sienna
>> Toyota Tundra
>>
>>
>> Worst Used Cars
>>
>> BMW 7 Series
>> BMW X5 (V
>> Chevrolet Astro
>> Chevrolet Blazer
>> Chevrolet Express 1500
>> Chevrolet S-10 (4WD)
>> Chevrolet TrailBlazer
>> Chevrolet Venture
>> Chrysler Town & Country (AWD)
>> Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD)
>> GMC Envoy
>> GMC Jimmy
>> GMC Safari
>> GMC Savana 1500
>> GMC Sonoma (4WD)
>> Jaguar S-Type
>> Jaguar X-Type
>>
>> Kia Sedona
>> Land Rover Discovery
>> Lincoln LS
>> Lincoln Navigator
>> Mercedes-Benz CLK
>> Mercedes-Benz E-Class (V
>> Oldsmobile Alero
>> Oldsmobile Bravada
>> Oldsmobile Silhouette
>> Pontiac Aztek
>> Pontiac Trans Sport/Montana
>> Saturn Vue (AWD)
>> Volkswagen Cabrio
>> Volkswagen Jetta
>> Volkswagen New Beetle
>> Volkswagen Passat Wagon (V6)
>> Volvo XC90
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mike hunt wrote:
>> After over fifty five years in the busuness I an assuew you the
>> experances of others is a useless tool to determine if the vehicle you
>> buy will be reliable or not, once YOU purchase ONE. When one buys a
>> used vehicle there is no way one can know for sure how that one
>> particular vehicle was used or aboused or if it was maintained properly
>> or not, no mater who made that particualar vehicle, since every
>> manufacture makes some that are not up to snuff. The best way to choose
>> a vehicle is to forget who made it, and judge the ONE you intend to buy .
>
> I have to disagree with you on whether or not the experiences of others is
> valuable.
>
> If you were buying a 1987 model car, do you really think that a Yugo would
> be as likely to go as far as a 1987 Honda Civic or a Ford Taurus?
>
> While you're correct that one can't always determine how well a car is
> maintained, each vehicle model has specific limitations. If bought an
> Oldsmobile Cutlass Diesel, no matter how well you maintained it, chances
> are that you would run into problems because of the limitations of the
> diesel engine (although some of the engine lasted a long time). Likewise,
> if you bought a used 1987 Ford Taurus, your chances of having many
> trouble-free miles is higher than if you bought a 1985 Olds Cutlass Ciera
> with the diesel engine or a '87 Yugo.
>
> Well maintained automobiles have limitations on how long they last.
>
> If you buy a used car model that doesn't last long, it's not going to last
> as long as a used car that is a model that does last long.
>
> IMHO, what you're saying is that how reliable a vehicle is has nothing to
> do with how long it will last when you buy it used.
>
> Jeff
>
>> "Mr4701" <NoExists RemoveThis @Earth.net> wrote in message
>> news:KeSkj.3095$Wr4.2082@trnddc04...
>>> http://autos.yahoo.com/consumerreports/article/best_and_worst_used_cars.html
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>>> These are models that have performed well in Consumer Reports road tests
>>> over the years and have proved to have several or more years of
>>> better-than-average Used Car Verdict. They are listed alphabetically.
>>>
>>> Best Used Cars
>>>
>>> Acura Integra
>>> Acura MDX
>>> Acura RL
>>> Acura RSX
>>> Acura TL
>>> BMW Z3, Z4
>>> Buick Regal
>>> Chevrolet Prizm
>>> Ford Crown Victoria
>>> Ford Escort
>>> Mustang (V
>>> Honda Accord
>>> Honda Civic
>>> Honda Civic Hybrid
>>> Honda CR-V
>>> Honda Element
>>> Honda Odyssey
>>> Honda Pilot
>>> Honda Prelude
>>> Honda S2000
>>> Infiniti FX35 (V6)
>>> Infiniti G20
>>>
>>>
>>> Infiniti G35
>>> Infiniti I30, I35
>>> Infiniti QX4
>>> Lexus ES300, ES330
>>> Lexus GS300/GS400, GS430
>>> Lexus IS300
>>> Lexus GX470
>>> Lexus LS400, LS430
>>> Lexus RX300, RX330
>>> Lincoln Town Car
>>> Mazda Millenia
>>> Mazda MX-5 Miata
>>> Mazda Protegi
>>> Mercury Grand Marquis
>>> Mitsubishi Galant
>>> Nissan Altima
>>> Nissan Maxima
>>> Nissan Murano
>>> Nissan Pathfinder
>>> Pontiac Vibe
>>>
>>> Subaru Forester
>>> Subaru Impreza
>>> Subaru Impreza
>>> WRX, STi
>>> Subaru Legacy
>>> Subaru Outback
>>> Toyota 4Runner
>>> Toyota Avalon
>>> Toyota Camry
>>> Toyota Camry Solara
>>> Toyota Celica
>>> Toyota Corolla
>>> Toyota Echo
>>> Toyota Highlander
>>> Toyota Land Cruiser
>>> Toyota Matrix
>>> Toyota Prius
>>> Toyota RAV4
>>> Toyota Sequoia
>>> Toyota Sienna
>>> Toyota Tundra
>>>
>>>
>>> Worst Used Cars
>>>
>>> BMW 7 Series
>>> BMW X5 (V
>>> Chevrolet Astro
>>> Chevrolet Blazer
>>> Chevrolet Express 1500
>>> Chevrolet S-10 (4WD)
>>> Chevrolet TrailBlazer
>>> Chevrolet Venture
>>> Chrysler Town & Country (AWD)
>>> Dodge Grand Caravan (AWD)
>>> GMC Envoy
>>> GMC Jimmy
>>> GMC Safari
>>> GMC Savana 1500
>>> GMC Sonoma (4WD)
>>> Jaguar S-Type
>>> Jaguar X-Type
>>>
>>> Kia Sedona
>>> Land Rover Discovery
>>> Lincoln LS
>>> Lincoln Navigator
>>> Mercedes-Benz CLK
>>> Mercedes-Benz E-Class (V
>>> Oldsmobile Alero
>>> Oldsmobile Bravada
>>> Oldsmobile Silhouette
>>> Pontiac Aztek
>>> Pontiac Trans Sport/Montana
>>> Saturn Vue (AWD)
>>> Volkswagen Cabrio
>>> Volkswagen Jetta
>>> Volkswagen New Beetle
>>> Volkswagen Passat Wagon (V6)
>>> Volvo XC90
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> Mike hunt wrote:
>
>> After over fifty five years in the busuness I an assuew you the
>> experances of others is a useless tool to determine if the vehicle you
>> buy will be reliable or not, once YOU purchase ONE. When one buys a
>> used vehicle there is no way one can know for sure how that one
>> particular vehicle was used or aboused or if it was maintained
>> properly or not, no mater who made that particualar vehicle, since
>> every manufacture makes some that are not up to snuff. The best way
>> to choose a vehicle is to forget who made it, and judge the ONE you
>> intend to buy .
>
>
> I have to disagree with you on whether or not the experiences of others
> is valuable.
>
> If you were buying a 1987 model car, do you really think that a Yugo
> would be as likely to go as far as a 1987 Honda Civic or a Ford Taurus?
>
> While you're correct that one can't always determine how well a car is
> maintained, each vehicle model has specific limitations. If bought an
> Oldsmobile Cutlass Diesel, no matter how well you maintained it, chances
> are that you would run into problems because of the limitations of the
> diesel engine (although some of the engine lasted a long time).
> Likewise, if you bought a used 1987 Ford Taurus, your chances of having
> many trouble-free miles is higher than if you bought a 1985 Olds Cutlass
> Ciera with the diesel engine or a '87 Yugo.
>
> Well maintained automobiles have limitations on how long they last.
>
> If you buy a used car model that doesn't last long, it's not going to
> last as long as a used car that is a model that does last long.
>
> IMHO, what you're saying is that how reliable a vehicle is has nothing
> to do with how long it will last when you buy it used.
>
> Jeff
Once again elementary logic evades you completely.
There are many variables involved. AND besides that
"the experiences of others" is a statistical matter.
Once you've bought a machine it might be the one with
an unusually long, or an unusually short, or an
average life. It is not true that all the vehicles
in the historical sample have the same failure/repair
experience. The range of experiences is always very
broad.
Once a person has made the purchase they become a
sample size of 1 whether a person buys it new or
used. Here's a clue.... What was that thing about
not buying a vehicle assembled on certain days
of the week?
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> Not surprised S10, Blazer and Jimmy are on there.... not at all..
I am. I've been driving them since they first came out and once GM started
using
their own engines, I have had no issues, I've owned five over the years,
three pick-ups and two Blazers, and every one but the first one, which had
the Isuzu engine, has gone at least 250,000 miles with no major repairs.
Granted I haven't owned any of the last model years, I didn't like the "new"
body style. The 2.5's were under powered but ran flawless, guess the name
Iron Duke was well deserved. And even under powered a friend and I used to
pull his late model across the Skyway Bridge on a trailer twice a month to
Desoto Speedway, the other two weekends was my Vega to Brandon Motor sports
dragstrip again across the Skyway Bridge. The Blazer with 2.8 with
throttle body was a vast improvement, only issue was the intake gaskets
letting go around 130,000 miles. Would still have that one if daughter
hadn't wrecked it at 297,000 miles. ran it into the back of a 24 foot
delivery truck hard enough to drive the water pump back through the timing
cover and it was still ruining, she had to shut it off. No frame damage,
but the tranny housing was cracked so decided not to fix it. Other wise
would have replaced the sheet metal. Had hoped, as she was the third
generation in the family to drive it, that it might make it to the fourth
generation, she was 8 1/2 months pregnant and walked away from it. And the
4.3 in the current Blazer has been great. 310,000 miles still idles with 32
psi hot on a mechanical gauge, doesn't use any oil between changes.. Tranny
is starting to act up I cant think of anyone I know that has owned one that
had major issues with them. My neighbor has two in the drive way, they are
his third and fourth. His grandson is starting to drive the older of the
two.
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Actually, that poll was published in April, 2006, so it is not quite two
>> years old.
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> The poll is more than 2 years old. It takes time to get the poll results
> analyzed and the results in print.
That point is also correct. There is a lag. I would be a lot more
interested
in a poll completed after about 4-5 years of service if I were interested in
that model year car. Albeit some cars (one American car maker in
particular)
seem to be able to fall apart a lot sooner than that. >> Stay informed about: Best Used Cars vs. Worst Used Cars |
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