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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:07 am
Post subject: Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:32:04 -0500, daytripper
<day_trippr RemoveThis @REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
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>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>factor these into the final price.
>>
>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
>In fairness, one could have had all the advantages as listed, and still end up
>with a tb failure in short time. The originally recommended tb replacement
>interval has since been fairly well shown to be optimistic by at least 20K
>miles...
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>/daytripper
>'00 s4 6spd
I won't argue that! <bg> Though I do believe a good inspection is
vital, there is always the possibility that something will fail
regardless. One reason to buy from a dealer who gives a warranty, or a
used car with a factory warranty that is transferable.
Sometimes you can get a third party warranty on a used car, subject to
inspection...
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:07 am
Post subject: Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 20:32:04 -0500, daytripper
<day_trippr.DeleteThis@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
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>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>factor these into the final price.
>>
>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
>In fairness, one could have had all the advantages as listed, and still end up
>with a tb failure in short time. The originally recommended tb replacement
>interval has since been fairly well shown to be optimistic by at least 20K
>miles...
>
>/daytripper
>'00 s4 6spd
I won't argue that! <bg> Though I do believe a good inspection is
vital, there is always the possibility that something will fail
regardless. One reason to buy from a dealer who gives a warranty, or a
used car with a factory warranty that is transferable.
Sometimes you can get a third party warranty on a used car, subject to
inspection...
Any way, I hope the OP's problem is easily fixed... |
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:58 pm
Post subject: Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:55:28 GMT, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1.DeleteThis@ameritech.net>
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>"Sami D." <sami.durrani.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1163864961.936584.194490@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> ok I maybe be showing my newbie-ness here, but what are:
>>
>> OP and LOF?
>
>OP can be 'Original Poster' in this case.
>
>LOF might be 'Laughing On Floor' or 'Little Old Fart' or ? 8^)
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:58 pm
Post subject: Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:55:28 GMT, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1.TakeThisOut@ameritech.net>
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>"Sami D." <sami.durrani.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1163864961.936584.194490@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> ok I maybe be showing my newbie-ness here, but what are:
>>
>> OP and LOF?
>
>OP can be 'Original Poster' in this case.
>
>LOF might be 'Laughing On Floor' or 'Little Old Fart' or ? 8^)
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:58:02 -0500, daytripper
<day_trippr.DeleteThis@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:55:28 GMT, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1.DeleteThis@ameritech.net>
>wrote:
>
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>>"Sami D." <sami.durrani.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1163864961.936584.194490@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> ok I maybe be showing my newbie-ness here, but what are:
>>>
>>> OP and LOF?
>>
>>OP can be 'Original Poster' in this case.
>>
>>LOF might be 'Laughing On Floor' or 'Little Old Fart' or ? 8^)
>
>Well, as this is a car group, how about "Lube, Oil and Filter"?
Ba-ting! The man win again...
(was it 'my bad' to use an acronym that wasn't 'computer' here? <bg>) >> Stay informed about: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start |
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:54 pm
Post subject: Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 14:58:02 -0500, daytripper
<day_trippr DeleteThis @REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:55:28 GMT, "dave AKA vwdoc1" <vwdoc1 DeleteThis @ameritech.net>
>wrote:
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>>"Sami D." <sami.durrani DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1163864961.936584.194490@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> ok I maybe be showing my newbie-ness here, but what are:
>>>
>>> OP and LOF?
>>
>>OP can be 'Original Poster' in this case.
>>
>>LOF might be 'Laughing On Floor' or 'Little Old Fart' or ? 8^)
>
>Well, as this is a car group, how about "Lube, Oil and Filter"?
Ba-ting! The man win again...
(was it 'my bad' to use an acronym that wasn't 'computer' here? <bg>) >> Stay informed about: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> I second that!
> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
> vehicle.
>
> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>
> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>
> Good luck!
> later,
> dave
> (One out of many daves)
>
> "PeterD" <peter2.TakeThisOut@hipson.net> wrote in message
> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>
>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani.TakeThisOut@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou....TakeThisOut@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr....TakeThisOut@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>many valves in
>>>>
>>>>doing so.
>>
>>
>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>factor these into the final price.
>>
>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
>
>
Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
on this NG.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> I second that!
> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
> vehicle.
>
> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>
> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>
> Good luck!
> later,
> dave
> (One out of many daves)
>
> "PeterD" <peter2 DeleteThis @hipson.net> wrote in message
> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>
>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani DeleteThis @gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou... DeleteThis @pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr... DeleteThis @gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>many valves in
>>>>
>>>>doing so.
>>
>>
>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>factor these into the final price.
>>
>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>
>
>
Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
on this NG.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Car stalled at stop sign, now it won't start [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <dontsend.DeleteThis@noway.com>
wrote:
>dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>> I second that!
>> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
>> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
>> vehicle.
>>
>> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
>> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
>> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
>> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>>
>> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
>> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
>> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
>> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> "PeterD" <peter2.DeleteThis@hipson.net> wrote in message
>> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani.DeleteThis@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou....DeleteThis@pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr....DeleteThis@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>>many valves in
>>>>>
>>>>>doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>>factor these into the final price.
>>>
>>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>>
>>
>>
>Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
>Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
>on this NG.
>
>He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!
Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:49 pm
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:49:43 +1100, John Smith <dontsend DeleteThis @noway.com>
wrote:
>dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
>> I second that!
>> When you have something as critical as the timing belt on an interference
>> engine, then it is a good idea to replace it as soon as you purchase the
>> vehicle.
>>
>> I have managed to save two 16V engines when their timing belts broke at a
>> stop sign. No noticeable engine damage, only needed the timing belt and
>> tensioner. They were very lucky, but there was one 16V engine that had it's
>> belt bread at speed and needed some valves repaired.
>>
>> Oh and when you do get that engine running again then make sure you check
>> the engine for sludge. Some people will use some cleaner/flush with the oil
>> and reduce the sludge inside in the 1.8t engine.
>> SPECIAL synthetic oil and a nice large oil filter is desired.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> later,
>> dave
>> (One out of many daves)
>>
>> "PeterD" <peter2 DeleteThis @hipson.net> wrote in message
>> news:u7nsl21kcgaccd146m8dlkpfr1onefr0gd@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani DeleteThis @gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>>>>and i just bought the effing car.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Nov 17, 4:45 pm, Dave LaCourse <dplacou... DeleteThis @pirateaol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 17 Nov 2006 09:04:06 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durr... DeleteThis @gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>To me it sounds like the starter is turning but its not connecting to
>>>>>>the engine crank.Sounds like your timing belt went. Hope it didn't eat
>>>>>>many valves in
>>>>>
>>>>>doing so.
>>>
>>>
>>>That shows why it is so vitally important to have a competentent
>>>mechanic inspect the car before you buy it! And to insist on seeing
>>>all past service records. If previous service records are not
>>>available, then a wise buyer will assume they have not been done, and
>>>factor these into the final price.
>>>
>>>I'd say you've learned a painful lesson in buying a car, and you have
>>>my sympathy. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair.
>>
>>
>>
>Jesus, you wouldn't want to sink the boot in would you...
>
>Poor bugger doesn't need a lecture now - especially from the smart alecs
>on this NG.
>
>He asked for advice, not a lecture!!!
Well, we'll keep that in mind! Of course the advise you gave was
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:55 pm
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"Sami D." <sami.durrani DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163864961.936584.194490@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> ok I maybe be showing my newbie-ness here, but what are:
>
> OP and LOF?
OP can be 'Original Poster' in this case.
LOF might be 'Laughing On Floor' or 'Little Old Fart' or ? 8^)
Hey you can come up with some new ones if you want! lol (laughing out
loud)
this site should be bookmarked by you
http://www.acronymfinder.com/
later,
dave
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:58 pm
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:34 pm
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:34 pm
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:36 pm
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On 17 Nov 2006 14:43:49 -0800, "Sami D." <sami.durrani.DeleteThis@gmail.com>
wrote:
>yeh i talked to an audi mechanic today, he said the same thing. damn,
>and i just bought the effing car.
My grandson had a early 90s Audi (don't recall the model or year).
His heater stopped working. I told him it was his thermostat and it
would cost alot to get it fixed, and since they are down there to
replace it they may as well replace the water pump and the timing
belt. He thought it cost too much, so he didn't have the extra
repairs done. Within two months, I had to go and rescue him on I290;
his timing belt broke and ate all the valves. He got it fixed but it
was never the same.
Today he has a chipped 00 S4, and a 95 A4 that he uses for work. Both
of them have had their belts changed. d;o) His dad drives my old
00A6 4.2 and HAS had the TB changed.
Dave
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