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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:57 am
Post subject: Canon350d/XT purchase advice
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Hi,
I have permission from the SO to upgrade from my much loved Oly 4000 to
the Canon 350D/XT. I would like advice particularly re lenses – I have
looked around at reviews and websites and am more than a little confused
by the huge variety available!
1. I have a total budget of around £1,200 (around $2100 US)
2. The camera body is available in UK for around £555 with the kit lens
(18-55) for about £40 more. Is the kit lens so bad that it is not worth
going for it?
3. My needs vary from close-up/macro to long distance nature. Mostly
are nature/landscapes/portraits. Given my budget, what lenses would you
suggest(I could omit macro to start)
4. Is the 1gb CF card the best buy?
5. Should I buy an extra battery – I am used to carrying around several
sets of spare AAs for the Oly?
6. Are there retailers in the UK that you would recommend/avoid at all
costs?
7. Any other advice?
Many thanks
Gordon
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:57 am
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I recently purchased the 20D and it came with the kit lens (18-55)
which I beleive is the same one they ship with the 350D. I don't find
it to be a bad lens but I've heard from others that it's not the best
quality - infact, the sales girl in Jessops told me this while I was
buying it!
If you're doing nature shots, particualrly animals, I'd recommend you
get something like a 75-300mm - Canon do a very good one with image
stabalizer. the IS hikes the price, but I've had really good results
getting close to animals like deer, whilst moving around and using
handheld - the IS is well worth it for this kind of shop, and a 75-300
Canon USM + IS should set you back about 360 quid (Jessops charge 390,
so I wouldn't get it there)
the 1G card is probably the minimum you want - I've got 1G and get
about 250 shots at full (JPG) quality.
As far as retailers go.... I normally avoid Jessops but when I bought
my 20D+kit Jacobs and Jessops (opposite eachother on Oxford St, London)
both had the same deal for the same price... except Jessops had a 1G
card placed near the product in the window. Neither store offered any
memory with the package, but I convinced Jessops that their window
placement looked deceiving and they ended up throwing the 1G card in
for free - so that made it a worthwhile buy. I wouldn't buy lens's
from them though.
If you expand your budget a fraction, you could consider a 20D with
18-55 kit and a 75-300mm USM+IS lens - that whole lot (not forgetting I
got the card for free) was about £1,350 - try out both the 350D and
20D and see how they feel for you - that was the advice I got before
purchasing and I went for the latter.
Good luck!
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:53 pm
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Craig,
I thought you "chaps" talked in pounds but you used the term quid,
could you enlighten one of the rebels from this side of the pond. 
Paul
Craig Dunn wrote:
> I recently purchased the 20D and it came with the kit lens (18-55)
> which I beleive is the same one they ship with the 350D. I don't find
> it to be a bad lens but I've heard from others that it's not the best
> quality - infact, the sales girl in Jessops told me this while I was
> buying it!
>
> If you're doing nature shots, particualrly animals, I'd recommend you
> get something like a 75-300mm - Canon do a very good one with image
> stabalizer. the IS hikes the price, but I've had really good results
> getting close to animals like deer, whilst moving around and using
> handheld - the IS is well worth it for this kind of shop, and a 75-300
> Canon USM + IS should set you back about 360 quid (Jessops charge 390,
> so I wouldn't get it there)
>
> the 1G card is probably the minimum you want - I've got 1G and get
> about 250 shots at full (JPG) quality.
>
> As far as retailers go.... I normally avoid Jessops but when I bought
> my 20D+kit Jacobs and Jessops (opposite eachother on Oxford St, London)
> both had the same deal for the same price... except Jessops had a 1G
> card placed near the product in the window. Neither store offered any
> memory with the package, but I convinced Jessops that their window
> placement looked deceiving and they ended up throwing the 1G card in
> for free - so that made it a worthwhile buy. I wouldn't buy lens's
> from them though.
>
> If you expand your budget a fraction, you could consider a 20D with
> 18-55 kit and a 75-300mm USM+IS lens - that whole lot (not forgetting I
> got the card for free) was about £1,350 - try out both the 350D and
> 20D and see how they feel for you - that was the advice I got before
> purchasing and I went for the latter.
>
> Good luck!
> Craig
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:51 pm
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Thanks for asking the question Gordon.
I am in the same position.
One lens that was suggested to me as an all purpose leave on the camera lens
is the new Tamron 18-200 XR f3.5-6.3 Di II.
The suggestion was to get the body only and then the above lens. I also
happen to have an old 28-105 USM lens from 35mm EOS but probably wouldn't
need it with the above lens!!
Good luck with your final decision.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:49 am
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You ever use the term 20 bucks? Same idea.
"Paul Schilter" <paulschilter DeleteThis @nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> Craig,
> I thought you "chaps" talked in pounds but you used the term quid, could
> you enlighten one of the rebels from this side of the pond.
> Paul
>
>
>
> Craig Dunn wrote:
>> I recently purchased the 20D and it came with the kit lens (18-55)
>> which I beleive is the same one they ship with the 350D. I don't find
>> it to be a bad lens but I've heard from others that it's not the best
>> quality - infact, the sales girl in Jessops told me this while I was
>> buying it!
>>
>> If you're doing nature shots, particualrly animals, I'd recommend you
>> get something like a 75-300mm - Canon do a very good one with image
>> stabalizer. the IS hikes the price, but I've had really good results
>> getting close to animals like deer, whilst moving around and using
>> handheld - the IS is well worth it for this kind of shop, and a 75-300
>> Canon USM + IS should set you back about 360 quid (Jessops charge 390,
>> so I wouldn't get it there)
>>
>> the 1G card is probably the minimum you want - I've got 1G and get
>> about 250 shots at full (JPG) quality.
>>
>> As far as retailers go.... I normally avoid Jessops but when I bought
>> my 20D+kit Jacobs and Jessops (opposite eachother on Oxford St, London)
>> both had the same deal for the same price... except Jessops had a 1G
>> card placed near the product in the window. Neither store offered any
>> memory with the package, but I convinced Jessops that their window
>> placement looked deceiving and they ended up throwing the 1G card in
>> for free - so that made it a worthwhile buy. I wouldn't buy lens's
>> from them though.
>>
>> If you expand your budget a fraction, you could consider a 20D with
>> 18-55 kit and a 75-300mm USM+IS lens - that whole lot (not forgetting I
>> got the card for free) was about £1,350 - try out both the 350D and
>> 20D and see how they feel for you - that was the advice I got before
>> purchasing and I went for the latter.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Craig
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:24 am
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:58 am
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Gordon MacPherson wrote:
> Hi,
> I have permission from the SO to upgrade from my much loved Oly 4000 to
> the Canon 350D/XT. I would like advice particularly re lenses – I have
> looked around at reviews and websites and am more than a little confused
> by the huge variety available!
> 1. I have a total budget of around £1,200 (around $2100 US)
> 2. The camera body is available in UK for around £555 with the kit lens
> (18-55) for about £40 more. Is the kit lens so bad that it is not worth
> going for it?
> 3. My needs vary from close-up/macro to long distance nature. Mostly
> are nature/landscapes/portraits. Given my budget, what lenses would you
> suggest(I could omit macro to start)
> 4. Is the 1gb CF card the best buy?
> 5. Should I buy an extra battery – I am used to carrying around several
> sets of spare AAs for the Oly?
> 6. Are there retailers in the UK that you would recommend/avoid at all
> costs?
> 7. Any other advice?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Gordon
> gordon.macpherson DeleteThis @path.ox.ac.uk
>
Many thanks for the most helpful advice. I have just put in the order:
350D body
EF28-105 3.5-4.5 USMII - very good reviews
EF75-300 U IS - overall seemed to be as good as anything in the price range
Battery grip
1BG card
Ordered from Warehouse Express
Now we wait and see!!!
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:58 am
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:07 pm
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:10 pm
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Marten,
Got ya. It's amazing the thinks one can learn on Usenet.
Paul
Marten wrote:
> You ever use the term 20 bucks? Same idea.
>
> "Paul Schilter" <paulschilter.RemoveThis@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:DNKdnXBJdO4F8nPfRVn-uQ@comcast.com...
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>>Craig,
>>I thought you "chaps" talked in pounds but you used the term quid, could
>>you enlighten one of the rebels from this side of the pond.
>>Paul
>>
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>>
>>Craig Dunn wrote:
>>
>>>I recently purchased the 20D and it came with the kit lens (18-55)
>>>which I beleive is the same one they ship with the 350D. I don't find
>>>it to be a bad lens but I've heard from others that it's not the best
>>>quality - infact, the sales girl in Jessops told me this while I was
>>>buying it!
>>>
>>>If you're doing nature shots, particualrly animals, I'd recommend you
>>>get something like a 75-300mm - Canon do a very good one with image
>>>stabalizer. the IS hikes the price, but I've had really good results
>>>getting close to animals like deer, whilst moving around and using
>>>handheld - the IS is well worth it for this kind of shop, and a 75-300
>>>Canon USM + IS should set you back about 360 quid (Jessops charge 390,
>>>so I wouldn't get it there)
>>>
>>>the 1G card is probably the minimum you want - I've got 1G and get
>>>about 250 shots at full (JPG) quality.
>>>
>>>As far as retailers go.... I normally avoid Jessops but when I bought
>>>my 20D+kit Jacobs and Jessops (opposite eachother on Oxford St, London)
>>>both had the same deal for the same price... except Jessops had a 1G
>>>card placed near the product in the window. Neither store offered any
>>>memory with the package, but I convinced Jessops that their window
>>>placement looked deceiving and they ended up throwing the 1G card in
>>>for free - so that made it a worthwhile buy. I wouldn't buy lens's
>>>from them though.
>>>
>>>If you expand your budget a fraction, you could consider a 20D with
>>>18-55 kit and a 75-300mm USM+IS lens - that whole lot (not forgetting I
>>>got the card for free) was about £1,350 - try out both the 350D and
>>>20D and see how they feel for you - that was the advice I got before
>>>purchasing and I went for the latter.
>>>
>>>Good luck!
>>>Craig
>>>
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:46 pm
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> Many thanks for the most helpful advice. I have just put in the order:
> 350D body
> EF28-105 3.5-4.5 USMII - very good reviews
> EF75-300 U IS - overall seemed to be as good as anything in the price
> range
> Battery grip
> 1BG card
You may still want to consider something wider, be it the 18-55 kit lens,
17-85 IS, 17-40L, or 10-22 EF-S lens. With the 1.6x crop factor, I don't
find 28 wide enough for a good number of indoor shots.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:00 pm
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"Steve Wolfe" <unt.RemoveThis@codon.com> a écrit dans le message de
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> > Many thanks for the most helpful advice. I have just put in the order:
> > 350D body
> > EF28-105 3.5-4.5 USMII - very good reviews
> > EF75-300 U IS - overall seemed to be as good as anything in the price
> > range
> > Battery grip
> > 1BG card
>
> You may still want to consider something wider, be it the 18-55 kit
lens,
> 17-85 IS, 17-40L, or 10-22 EF-S lens. With the 1.6x crop factor, I don't
> find 28 wide enough for a good number of indoor shots.
>
A 28mm on a 350D is a tiny bit wider than a "normal" 50mm on a film 35mm
camera. When I started in photography, that's the only lens I had for a
good while and I made it OK. Granted the kit lens may be a good choice for
indoor shots, but I think I would wait and get the 17-40L a bit later. The
28-135 with IS seems to be a very good lens and probably the best one to
have when travelling.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:42 pm
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> A 28mm on a 350D is a tiny bit wider than a "normal" 50mm on a film 35mm
> camera. When I started in photography, that's the only lens I had for a
> good while and I made it OK. Granted the kit lens may be a good choice
> for
> indoor shots, but I think I would wait and get the 17-40L a bit later.
> The
> 28-135 with IS seems to be a very good lens and probably the best one to
> have when travelling.
Using a 28-105 on an XT, there are a significant number of indoor shots
where I really would like to go wider, and the kit lens does that just fine.
When others use my camera with the 28-105 indoors, they usually comment that
they wish they could back up more, too.
Sure, the 17-40L is a great lens, but for the $50, you might as well get
the kit lens with the camera, and use it when it's needed until you save the
dinero for the 17-40L. While the kit lens won't take phenominal pictures,
they're better than no pictures at all. : )
In fact, last weekend I took pictures of some family diving from the high
dive at a small local pool - by far, the very smallest where I've ever seen
a high dive. I had the 28-105 with me, and in order to get in the position
I wanted to keep the water and the board in view, I had to keep the lens at
28, and was still not quite able to get the picture framed like I wanted.
The kit lens would have been a better choice for that day, indeed, and that
day certainly wasn't the only one!
In fact, if the person didn't already have the 28-105, I would have said
to skip that AND the kit lens, and get a 17-85....
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