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Nomen Nescio

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:50 pm
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"So the new Cadillac CTS is the 2008 Motor Trend Car of the Year.
Accolades from an enthusiast magazine normally don't get much attention
outside advertising copy, but let's suspend disbelief for a minute and
consider the award at face value..."

Wall Street Journal: http://snipr.com/CadillacCTS

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John Horner

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:26 pm
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Nomen Nescio wrote:
> "So the new Cadillac CTS is the 2008 Motor Trend Car of the Year.
> Accolades from an enthusiast magazine normally don't get much attention
> outside advertising copy, but let's suspend disbelief for a minute and
> consider the award at face value..."
>
> Wall Street Journal: http://snipr.com/CadillacCTS
>

Not exactly a distinguished list to end up on. Have a look at the COTY
history book:

2002 Ford Thunderbird
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
2000 Lincoln LS
1999 Chrysler 300M
1998 Chevrolet Corvette
1997 Chevrolet Malibu
1996 Dodge Caravan
1995 Chrysler Cirrus
1994 Ford Mustang
1993 Ford Probe GT
1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
1990 Lincoln Town Car
1989 Ford Thunderbird SC
1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
1986 Ford Taurus LX
1985 Volkswagen GTI
1984 Chevrolet Corvette
1983 AMC / Renault Alliance
1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1981 Chrysler K Cars, Dodge Aries / Plymouth Reliant
1980 Chevrolet Citation
1979 Buick Riviera S
1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni / Plymouth Horizon
1977 Chevrolet Caprice
1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen / Plymouth Volare
1975 Chevrolet Monza 2+2
1974 Ford Mustang II
1973 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1972 Citroën SM
1971 Chevrolet Vega

Wow, what an honor!!!!!

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Mike Marlow

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:09 am
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"80 Knight" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I will definitely admit some of the cars on that list ended up being junk.
> But, some were actually quite good. I owned an '82 Trans Am (same car as
> the '82 Camaro). I have owned 2 Grand Prix's from the 1988-1993 era, and
> the '91 Caprice was even used as a Police cruiser for many years.
> In my opinion, Horner will say whatever makes GM (or domestics in general)
> look bad, and the Foreign brands look good.
>

I have no use for the Car of The Year award - it has never been more than a
hollow accolade. That said - 80 Knight is right on more than one point
here. Some of those cars were indeed quite good cars. Others did indeed
deserve an award for what they represented at the time. It's easy to look
back and see how they failed in certain respects, but at the time they
represented something of consequence for the motor company. The lowly Vega
actually served a good purpose for GM. It represented a movement in a
different direction. Yeah, a lot of manufacturing lessons were learned from
the Vega and many of them painful, but at the time, the car represented
something new and something that needed to be happening. Toyota's were
rusting out back then, just like Vega's. Honda had such a rust problem that
they had to provide sheet metal for free to owners. A lot of the problems
that some cars like the Vega experienced, and that it's easy to see in
retrospect, were problems that were very common across the board. A lot of
those COTY cars really did offer something new to a consumer base that
demanded quite a bit.

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Ken Abrams

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 8:27 am
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"80 Knight" <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote
> The fact is Toyota freaks will praise anything Toyota does, and bash
> everyone else.

The fact IS that obsession is unhealthy........regardless of which side you
are on.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:30 pm
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"Rob Whetstone" <robw68 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
Here are top-10 most recalled cars in 2007:

Byut what does it really tell? If a popular car is recalled for a
relatively minor problem is it worse than a limited sales model that has a
serious problem?

Was the car recalled due to a design flaw or a quality defect?

FWIW, my 01 LeSabre has not had any recalls yet. It is a rather mature
design though.
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