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Alex

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:55 am
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What's the word on CVT? I've been in a Ford 500 for a few weeks, and it is
sure nice to drive. Wonder if I would feel the same way after 50,000 miles.

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Jim Warman1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:55 am
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Rgis is not a transmission you are going to tow things behind but, driven
properly, they are a good trans.... Unfortunately, the CVT plant was one of
the facilities hit in the cutbacks.... We've been told that the 6 speed auto
(which is a very good trans) is going to be the only one offered for some
time....


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> What's the word on CVT? I've been in a Ford 500 for a few weeks, and it
> is sure nice to drive. Wonder if I would feel the same way after 50,000
> miles.
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Alex

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:55 am
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And my 91 f150 had a good transmission. $2700 at 70k miles good. So I'm a
bit reserved about a cvt. Thoughts about the Excape Hybrid? I still wonder
if a car based SUV is what I want over a Crown Vic or Towncar.

"Jim Warman" wrote in message

> Rgis is not a transmission you are going to tow things behind but, driven
> properly, they are a good trans.... Unfortunately, the CVT plant was one
> of the facilities hit in the cutbacks.... We've been told that the 6 speed
> auto (which is a very good trans) is going to be the only one offered for
> some time....
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> "Alex" wrote in message
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>> What's the word on CVT? I've been in a Ford 500 for a few weeks, and it
>> is sure nice to drive. Wonder if I would feel the same way after 50,000
>> miles.
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Jim Warman1

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:55 am
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We live in a remote area... no hybrids as yet (though someone bought a
SmartCar) and nobody going to school for them (tells me that the sales
department isn't going to order any in the near future). My guess is that
the trans in your 91 was an AOT/AOD and you drove in "OD" all the time....
These transmissions would "hunt" between OD and 3rd, overheat parts and
eventually self-destruct. The current crop of electronically controlled
transmissions is a bit better at deciding what gear is needed (4R70 and 4R75
excluded) but it is still wise to select "D" rather than "OD" when towing or
driving in an urban setting with any Ford transmissions lacking the "E"
suffix.

My best suggestion is to decide what suits your current lifestyle the best
and make a purchasing decision based on what will work best for you...
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Mike Hunter

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:43 am
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CVT have been around in automobiles since first used by DAF in the sixties.
CVT have been used to run heavy, high torque low speed, machinery way back
to the twenties. Until lately however when run at higher RPMs they were
subjected to rapid belt wear. Newer technically has eliminated that
problem.. A CVT has many fewer parts to go wrong than a convention
multistage tranny and should easily outlast current trannys.

To obtain the most efficient use a CVT the throttle should be floored to
allow the tranny to select the most efficient gear ratio for the condition
at hand, then let up when you obtain the result you want.


mike hunt


"Alex" wrote in message

> What's the word on CVT? I've been in a Ford 500 for a few weeks, and it
> is sure nice to drive. Wonder if I would feel the same way after 50,000
> miles.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:55 pm
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Alex wrote:
> What's the word on CVT? I've been in a Ford 500 for a few weeks, and it is
> sure nice to drive. Wonder if I would feel the same way after 50,000 miles.

My Honda Civic CVT is fine at 60,000, but that's a lighter car. Most of
the CVTs available today are in lighter cars.

It is weird, the lack of shifting and strange RPM points.

For economy, I select about 3,000 RPM and let the road speed climb while
the RPM stays steady.

Under heavy acceleration, the high RPM sounds like a lack of progress,
unless you watch the speedo. Wink

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dold11

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:55 pm
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Alex wrote:
> And my 91 f150 had a good transmission. $2700 at 70k miles good. So I'm
> a bit reserved about a cvt. Thoughts about the Excape Hybrid? I still
> wonder if a car based SUV is what I want over a Crown Vic or Towncar.

The Escape Hybrid is an altogether different type of CVT. It is more like
a conventional 4 speed auto, but has no bands to slip. The engine and
electric motors play against each other to adjust RPM, instead of locking
one portion of the planetary gearset.

I think the "eCVT" transmission in the hybrid should last as long as any
manual transmission.

The Escape Hybrid is not a car I would choose over a Towncar, though. This
is a smaller, noisier, rougher vehicle. The eCVT lets RPM run high under
load, over 5,000 RPM is maintained in hard acceleration.

But a Towncar has never been on my short list. I have an Escape Hybrid as
a replacement for a Dodge Durango, which was also loud and rough riding Wink

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Alex

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:55 am
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"Jim Warman" wrote in message


> the trans in your 91 was an AOT/AOD and you drove in "OD" all the time....
> These transmissions would "hunt" between OD and 3rd, overheat parts and
> eventually self-destruct. The current crop of electronically controlled
> transmissions is a bit better at deciding what gear is needed (4R70 and
> 4R75 excluded)

Do I detect a hint of "the driver drove it wrong and caused the failure"?
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