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JD

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:45 am
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Depends where you're at. All seasons work just fine for the majority
of people at least in the US. I've never felt the need to get
dedicated winter tires. Snow is not very common and with AWD or 4WD I
get everywhere just fine. This was at any temp down below freezing.
The OP clearly has no clue as he test drives cars at 100MPH right
after his son crashes a car (one with AWD) under questionable
circumstances.

All seasons are a cheap compromise for cheap people. There is no
circumstance under which they are better; winters are better in winter and
summers are better in summer. All seasons wear faster than summers in
summer, and don't grip nearly as well in winter as winters.

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:14 pm
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I'm in the NE and it has yet to snow more than a light coating. A
"touring" tire is just another name for allseason- it's just
marketing. As for longevity I just put Cooper CS4 "touring" tires on
my outback and they are rated for 70k miles not too bad IMO. They are
also fine in the rain, dry and the little snow we've had. I have too
many other things in my life to worry about switching tires based on
the weather forecast so for me a touring (all season) tire works just
fine and will get me safely anywhere I want to go. The OEM potenzas
were the best I;ve had on my outback but only lasted 35k miles.

On Feb 7, 6:54 pm, "JD" wrote:
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> No.  For some Americans who experience very little snow, an all-season may
> be an OK choice.  For someone living in the northeast or the mid-west,
> you're the one full of sh*t.  A good summer does just fine in wet.  Some
> performance summers don't.  But a good touring tire or a rain tire (which
> also does very well in the dry) will get you by just fine... and last twice
> as long as the all-season.
>
> All-seasons do some things OK and most things not very well.

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:08 pm
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If they dont last I'll get some $$ back prorated. If they last a
solid 50k with good traction I'll be happy. Plus the car has 86k
miles on it and I'll buy something else hopefully in a couple years.
Most touring tires are M+S rated- goodyear, michelin, Contietc.


On Feb 7, 7:44 pm, "JD" wrote:
> Touring tires are not all-seasons.  All-season have an M+S rating.  The CS4
> may be all-season, but good luck with 70K miles if they are.
>
> wrote in message
>
>
> I'm in the NE and it has yet to snow more than a light coating.  A
> "touring" tire is just another name for allseason- it's just
> marketing.  As for longevity I just put Cooper CS4 "touring" tires on
> my outback and they are rated for 70k miles not too bad IMO.  They are
> also fine in the rain,  dry and the little snow we've had.  I have too
> many other things in my life to worry about switching tires based on
> the weather forecast so for me a touring (all season) tire works just
> fine and will get me safely anywhere I want to go. The OEM potenzas
> were the best I;ve had on my outback but only lasted 35k miles.
>
> On Feb 7, 6:54 pm, "JD" wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > No. For some Americans who experience very little snow, an all-season may
> > be an OK choice. For someone living in the northeast or the mid-west,
> > you're the one full of sh*t. A good summer does just fine in wet. Some
> > performance summers don't. But a good touring tire or a rain tire (which
> > also does very well in the dry) will get you by just fine... and last
> > twice
> > as long as the all-season.
>
> > All-seasons do some things OK and most things not very well.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:10 pm
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On Feb 5, 7:06 pm, KLS wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:24:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:
> >Except your Mazda3 does not have LBS in front while MazdaSpeed3 does
> >have it.
> >Let me guess: you curently run some all season trash on your Mazda3
> >to complement the open front diff?
>
> I have had the car less than a month, and I'm driving on the Goodyear
> Eagle RSA tires it came with, which are less than ideal for our
> winters (to say the least!). I intend to buy four dedicated snow
> tires and rims for the car in August. So, back off on your insulting
> assumptions and just ask direct questions.

May I ask insulting direct questions?
Why do you have to wait for August to get dedicated snow tires
and why did you skimp on an LSD knowing full well that you live
in a snowbelt?
Eagle RSA is a very decent 3 season tire but it's probably even
worse than Bridgestone 92 in winter.
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:09 pm
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The potenza was great in the winter when new after 20-25k it sucked
i n snow. Cant speak of RS-a but the eagleGA was okay.



On Feb 7, 8:10 pm, wrote:
> On Feb 5, 7:06 pm, KLS wrote:
> > May I ask insulting direct questions?
> Why do you have to wait for August to get dedicated snow tires
> and why did you skimp on an LSD knowing full well that you live
> in a snowbelt?
> Eagle RSA is a very decent 3 season tire but it's probably even
> worse than Bridgestone 92 in winter.
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:54 pm
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I have no snow on the ground for more than a day or two a couple times
a year. Driving winter tires on the dry pavement 99% of the time is a
poor choice. Driving summer tires during the frequent summer rains
is not a wise choice either. While all seasons do nothing
exceptionally well, they do everything very well- snow, rain, dry etc
can be driven safely on the same set of tires in regions where there
are four seasons. I would rather have a quality set of all seasons
and drive in snow once or twice per winter than rely on winter tires
to handle well and provide short braking distance the rest of the
time. Summer tires lack the wet traction to handle downpours with
safety while all seasons do just fine. If you live in a place with
completely dry summers and arctic winters you are 100% right that two
sets of tires is the best choice. For most Americans who experience a
variety of weather conditions you are full of S**t.

No. For some Americans who experience very little snow, an all-season may
be an OK choice. For someone living in the northeast or the mid-west,
you're the one full of sh*t. A good summer does just fine in wet. Some
performance summers don't. But a good touring tire or a rain tire (which
also does very well in the dry) will get you by just fine... and last twice
as long as the all-season.

All-seasons do some things OK and most things not very well.
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:44 am
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Touring tires are not all-seasons. All-season have an M+S rating. The CS4
may be all-season, but good luck with 70K miles if they are.

wrote in message

I'm in the NE and it has yet to snow more than a light coating. A
"touring" tire is just another name for allseason- it's just
marketing. As for longevity I just put Cooper CS4 "touring" tires on
my outback and they are rated for 70k miles not too bad IMO. They are
also fine in the rain, dry and the little snow we've had. I have too
many other things in my life to worry about switching tires based on
the weather forecast so for me a touring (all season) tire works just
fine and will get me safely anywhere I want to go. The OEM potenzas
were the best I;ve had on my outback but only lasted 35k miles.

On Feb 7, 6:54 pm, "JD" wrote:
>>
> No. For some Americans who experience very little snow, an all-season may
> be an OK choice. For someone living in the northeast or the mid-west,
> you're the one full of sh*t. A good summer does just fine in wet. Some
> performance summers don't. But a good touring tire or a rain tire (which
> also does very well in the dry) will get you by just fine... and last
> twice
> as long as the all-season.
>
> All-seasons do some things OK and most things not very well.
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:50 am
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 17:10:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

>On Feb 5, 7:06 pm, KLS wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:24:08 -0800 (PST), wrote:
>> >Except your Mazda3 does not have LBS in front while MazdaSpeed3 does
>> >have it.
>> >Let me guess: you curently run some all season trash on your Mazda3
>> >to complement the open front diff?
>>
>> I have had the car less than a month, and I'm driving on the Goodyear
>> Eagle RSA tires it came with, which are less than ideal for our
>> winters (to say the least!). I intend to buy four dedicated snow
>> tires and rims for the car in August. So, back off on your insulting
>> assumptions and just ask direct questions.
>
>May I ask insulting direct questions?
>Why do you have to wait for August to get dedicated snow tires
>and why did you skimp on an LSD knowing full well that you live
>in a snowbelt?

a. money is tight right now and we have a Subaru for the bad days, and
b. I was in a hurry to buy a car and got a good deal on this one (as I
said, money is tight).

>Eagle RSA is a very decent 3 season tire but it's probably even
>worse than Bridgestone 92 in winter.

True.
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:09 am
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What!? The RE-92 sucked in any weather; snow in particular.

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The potenza was great in the winter when new after 20-25k it sucked
i n snow. Cant speak of RS-a but the eagleGA was okay.



On Feb 7, 8:10 pm, wrote:
> On Feb 5, 7:06 pm, KLS wrote:
> > May I ask insulting direct questions?
> Why do you have to wait for August to get dedicated snow tires
> and why did you skimp on an LSD knowing full well that you live
> in a snowbelt?
> Eagle RSA is a very decent 3 season tire but it's probably even
> worse than Bridgestone 92 in winter.
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