Brake job for 2002 Taurus

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:56:23 -0400, Robert Blass
wrote:

>Just got the following done
>1. Rear brake shoes replaced
>2. Front 2 rotors replaced
>3. Front disc pads replace
>4. Front 'hardware' replaced.
>
>The braking difference is tremendous. I used to have to press hard on
>the brakes to stop. Also the travel distance to begin to apply the
>brakes was about 6 inches with the last 2 inches of actual braking.
>In other words the pedal traveled downward a LOT before the brakes
>began to apply.
>
>NOW the pedal reacts sooner than before so I cap tap down slightly as
>I brake more and more downward.
>
>Also the braking is 100% better, they are strong brakes now.
>
>With everything including tax I paid $397 at one of those discount
>brake shops.
>
>I was wondering if I just got ripped off for the price?
>
>I feel slightly raped by the experience is why I am asking.
>
>thanks

Sounds about right - the rotors, pads and shoes alone are $150-ish.
And they were working on it for a few hours.

--<< Bruce >>--
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"aarcuda69062" wrote in message

> Your brakes work 100% better and you feel "raped?"

That was the thing that caught my eye, too.... Perhaps the repair shop
should have offered him $397 for the privilege of working on his car.
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:57:07 GMT, sayd the
following:

>
>"aarcuda69062" wrote in message
>
>> Your brakes work 100% better and you feel "raped?"
>
>That was the thing that caught my eye, too.... Perhaps the repair shop
>should have offered him $397 for the privilege of working on his car.
>


c'mon guys, it was just one line saying..
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:07:17 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
sayd the following:

>On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:56:23 -0400, Robert Blass
>wrote:
>
>>Just got the following done
>>1. Rear brake shoes replaced
>>2. Front 2 rotors replaced
>>3. Front disc pads replace
>>4. Front 'hardware' replaced.
>>
>>The braking difference is tremendous. I used to have to press hard on
>>the brakes to stop. Also the travel distance to begin to apply the
>>brakes was about 6 inches with the last 2 inches of actual braking.
>>In other words the pedal traveled downward a LOT before the brakes
>>began to apply.
>>
>>NOW the pedal reacts sooner than before so I cap tap down slightly as
>>I brake more and more downward.
>>
>>Also the braking is 100% better, they are strong brakes now.
>>
>>With everything including tax I paid $397 at one of those discount
>>brake shops.
>>
>>I was wondering if I just got ripped off for the price?
>>
>>I feel slightly raped by the experience is why I am asking.
>>
>>thanks
>
> Sounds about right - the rotors, pads and shoes alone are $150-ish.
>And they were working on it for a few hours.


3 hours to be exact. My are waiting rooms boring. These places have
never heard of cable tv or 'new' magazines...

Even the waiting room temp was a comfortable 85-90 degrees.

I started counting cars that went down the road...I gave up around car
number 500...then counting ceiling tiles....then asking for a pen and
drawing 3D squares....then put my sunglasses on and took a 2 hour
nap....

Those waiting rooms are almost as bad as a hospital ER waiting room.


Hey but at least the coke machine was only $1.25 for the can size.
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100 dollars a wheel ... with 60 dollars in parts each ...
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 06:35:22 -0700, "Alan B. Mac Farlane"
<alanb DeleteThis @sonic.net> wrote:




Hey, lighten up - at MOST it was $50 high for a small town private
garage, for an independent shop in a bigger city with higher overhead
it was about right, and for a big city dealer shop he got off cheap.

Go price out electricity, and rent, and Workers Comp Insurance, and
liability insurance, and the ads in the local papers to get business,
and the Safety Kleen truck to recycle the brake cleaning machine
fluid, and the Phone and Yellow Pages ads, and maintaining their shop
truck to go shag parts, etc. etc. etc...

Tain't cheap running a shop.

But you still want to avoid the big corporate chain shops even if
they claim to be "Discount" - because they have a computer analyzing
all invoices and are under intense corporate pressure to drive up the
invoices as much as possible.

It is often written into corporate policies that all mechanics and
service writers and Managers are to pump all invoices up to at least
$75 with extras - some are needed, but most certainly are not.

If they let too many people out of there with only the "$29.95 Brake
Special" without adding on some extra profit items like a Brake Flush,
someone is going to get fired for not upselling. And that includes
the mechanics "finding" and reporting on extra items that need to be
done while under your car, they track that too.

Charging $25 for a brake bleeding (that will use a half gallon of
fresh brake fluid) is proper servicing for a car every 2 or 3 years,
charging $150 by calling it a "Brake System Flushing Service" is not -
same exact service, more expensive name. And they CAN NOT use a
solvent to "Flush" the system without a total rebuild of the brake
system, because no matter how vigorously you blow out the lines some
solvent will inevitably get left inside and can cause brake failure.

California Bureau of Automotive Repair sends out investigators with
"Bait Cars" that they know exactly what is wrong with (because they
had one of their mechanics make it that way, everything else is within
specs) and go after shops that try to pump up the invoices with
unnecessary work. Big fines, Jail time, and operating license
revocations. Many other states do the same thing to protect
consumers.

Sears Auto Centers, Jiffy Lube, EZ-Lube, Firestone and Goodyear
Service Centers, et al. have felt their wrath - some of them many
times.

And KCBS-TV Los Angeles has done several of their own stings where
they paid for an add-on Transmission Flush at fast lube shops, and
95%+ of the time it was never performed - and they have proof from
hidden cameras in and under their bait cars and in vans outside
(rolling continuously) that the transmission flush machine never moved
from it's spot.

The best part is the Managers either running them off the lot when
the Reporter and camera crew walk in to ask them why they were just
ripped off, or tries to assault the cameraman, or the one Manager that
tried to deny he even worked there.

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"Robert Blass" wrote in message

> Just got the following done
> 1. Rear brake shoes replaced
> 2. Front 2 rotors replaced
> 3. Front disc pads replace
> 4. Front 'hardware' replaced.
>
> The braking difference is tremendous. I used to have to press hard on
> the brakes to stop. Also the travel distance to begin to apply the
> brakes was about 6 inches with the last 2 inches of actual braking.
> In other words the pedal traveled downward a LOT before the brakes
> began to apply.
>
> NOW the pedal reacts sooner than before so I cap tap down slightly as
> I brake more and more downward.
>
> Also the braking is 100% better, they are strong brakes now.
>
> With everything including tax I paid $397 at one of those discount
> brake shops.
>
> I was wondering if I just got ripped off for the price?
>
> I feel slightly raped by the experience is why I am asking.
>
> thanks

The important question for me would be weather or not they used genuine
factory rotors, or did they send the gofer down to Auto Zone for a set of
Chinese made ones. Might work great for a few months and then start to
judder.
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hmm, alrighty then....I think?
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:42:06 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
sayd the following:

>California Bureau of Automotive Repair sends out investigators with
>"Bait Cars" that they know exactly what is wrong with (because they
>had one of their mechanics make it that way, everything else is within
>specs) and go after shops that try to pump up the invoices with
>unnecessary work. Big fines, Jail time, and operating license
>revocations. Many other states do the same thing to protect
>consumers.
>
> Sears Auto Centers, Jiffy Lube, EZ-Lube, Firestone and Goodyear
>Service Centers, et al. have felt their wrath - some of them many
>times.


I remember the Sears thing in the news...seems like it was in the
1980s? Since then Sears seems t have scalled back and now only do very
minor repairs on cars....like battery/tire installations I think....
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