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Clark

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:14 am
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Hello, I'm new here. I'm hoping someone can help with my problem.

My vehicle is a 2000 GMC Sierra 1500, 2WD. Last July/06, I had both
front and rear rotors machined due to brake pulsation - this corrected
the problem. At that time the milage was 67338 miles. Since then
I've put on an additional 7723 miles and am again experiencing brake
pulsation. My GM dealer tells me the rear rotors must be replaced
(not enough material left to machine them). And the front rotors need
to be machined again.

I asked why the rotors would be warped again after so few miles and
was told it had nothing to do with the number of miles driven. I was
told it could be caused by rust buildup or hard braking or 'panic'
braking. There is no rust on the rotors and I don't see how hard
braking would be the reason in my case. I'm not a fast driver and I
consider most of my braking to be 'moderate'. That said, I would
think that the rotors should be robust enough to withstand the
occasional heavy braking. At the moment the pulsation is not severe
and I've declined to have the work done.

For what it's worth, here's the rest of the history on my brakes:
- 03/2003 - rear rotors and pads replaced at 33555 miles.
- 02/2005 - front rotors and pads replaced at 54060 miles.
- 06/2005 - rear rotors and pads replaced at 55726 miles.

I have heard or read somewhere on the internet that the brakes on this
vehicle are not one of it's strong points. In addition I also read
where GM decided to return to using drum brakes on the rear of these
pickups. This suggests to me that rear disk brakes have been
problematic on these vehicles.

What I would like is for my GM dealer to replace or machine my rotors
without charge since I think the damage should not have occurred with
so few miles. GM won't give into my request easily of course if they
can blame it on driver error.

So what I'm looking for is written proof that these brakes just don't
stand up well. Are there others who've had similar problems? Do you
know if such problems have been written up somewhere - something I can
take to GM to prove there is a problem?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Clark

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:29 pm
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91K on a 2000 Silverado. Replaced front pads at 75k. (That's all).
What does your brake pedal look like? Can you still read the logo?

"Clark" wrote in message

> Hello, I'm new here. I'm hoping someone can help with my problem.
>
> My vehicle is a 2000 GMC Sierra 1500, 2WD. Last July/06, I had both
> front and rear rotors machined due to brake pulsation - this corrected
> the problem. At that time the milage was 67338 miles. Since then
> I've put on an additional 7723 miles and am again experiencing brake
> pulsation. My GM dealer tells me the rear rotors must be replaced
> (not enough material left to machine them). And the front rotors need
> to be machined again.
>
> I asked why the rotors would be warped again after so few miles and
> was told it had nothing to do with the number of miles driven. I was
> told it could be caused by rust buildup or hard braking or 'panic'
> braking. There is no rust on the rotors and I don't see how hard
> braking would be the reason in my case. I'm not a fast driver and I
> consider most of my braking to be 'moderate'. That said, I would
> think that the rotors should be robust enough to withstand the
> occasional heavy braking. At the moment the pulsation is not severe
> and I've declined to have the work done.
>
> For what it's worth, here's the rest of the history on my brakes:
> - 03/2003 - rear rotors and pads replaced at 33555 miles.
> - 02/2005 - front rotors and pads replaced at 54060 miles.
> - 06/2005 - rear rotors and pads replaced at 55726 miles.
>
> I have heard or read somewhere on the internet that the brakes on this
> vehicle are not one of it's strong points. In addition I also read
> where GM decided to return to using drum brakes on the rear of these
> pickups. This suggests to me that rear disk brakes have been
> problematic on these vehicles.
>
> What I would like is for my GM dealer to replace or machine my rotors
> without charge since I think the damage should not have occurred with
> so few miles. GM won't give into my request easily of course if they
> can blame it on driver error.
>
> So what I'm looking for is written proof that these brakes just don't
> stand up well. Are there others who've had similar problems? Do you
> know if such problems have been written up somewhere - something I can
> take to GM to prove there is a problem?
>
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
>
> Clark
>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:23 pm
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Thanks for the links Marsh.

Clark


On Jul 29, 3:45 pm, Marsh Monster wrote:
> On Jul 29, 1:14?pm, Clark wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello, I'm new here. I'm hoping someone can help with my problem.
>

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:26 pm
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Thanks for the clarification Dennis - this is good to know. Dealer
confirms it's warpage both front and rear.

Clark

On Jul 29, 6:26 pm, Dennis Mayer wrote:
> Clark wrote:
>
> > Hello, I'm new here. I'm hoping someone can help with my problem.
>
> > My vehicle is a 2000 GMC Sierra 1500, 2WD. Last July/06, I had both
> > front and rear rotors machined due to brake pulsation - this corrected
> > the problem. At that time the milage was 67338 miles. Since then
> > I've put on an additional 7723 miles and am again experiencing brake
> > pulsation. My GM dealer tells me the rear rotors must be replaced
> > (not enough material left to machine them). And the front rotors need
> > to be machined again.
>
> > I asked why the rotors would be warped again after so few miles and
> > was told it had nothing to do with the number of miles driven. I was
> > told it could be caused by rust buildup or hard braking or 'panic'
> > braking. There is no rust on the rotors and I don't see how hard
> > braking would be the reason in my case. I'm not a fast driver and I
> > consider most of my braking to be 'moderate'. That said, I would
> > think that the rotors should be robust enough to withstand the
> > occasional heavy braking. At the moment the pulsation is not severe
> > and I've declined to have the work done.
>
> > For what it's worth, here's the rest of the history on my brakes:
> > - 03/2003 - rear rotors and pads replaced at 33555 miles.
> > - 02/2005 - front rotors and pads replaced at 54060 miles.
> > - 06/2005 - rear rotors and pads replaced at 55726 miles.
>
> > I have heard or read somewhere on the internet that the brakes on this
> > vehicle are not one of it's strong points. In addition I also read
> > where GM decided to return to using drum brakes on the rear of these
> > pickups. This suggests to me that rear disk brakes have been
> > problematic on these vehicles.
>
> > What I would like is for my GM dealer to replace or machine my rotors
> > without charge since I think the damage should not have occurred with
> > so few miles. GM won't give into my request easily of course if they
> > can blame it on driver error.
>
> > So what I'm looking for is written proof that these brakes just don't
> > stand up well. Are there others who've had similar problems? Do you
> > know if such problems have been written up somewhere - something I can
> > take to GM to prove there is a problem?
>
> > Thanks for any help you can provide.
>
> > Clark
>
> Chev 2000 Front brake rotor pulsation Can Mean:
>
> 1) Warped front brake rotors OR
>
> 2) A bad front wheel speed sensor or sensors where 1 or both front
> brakes ABS pulse
> at low speeds when they should not pulse on dry pavement.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:26 pm
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Clark wrote:
>
> Hello, I'm new here. I'm hoping someone can help with my problem.
>
> My vehicle is a 2000 GMC Sierra 1500, 2WD. Last July/06, I had both
> front and rear rotors machined due to brake pulsation - this corrected
> the problem. At that time the milage was 67338 miles. Since then
> I've put on an additional 7723 miles and am again experiencing brake
> pulsation. My GM dealer tells me the rear rotors must be replaced
> (not enough material left to machine them). And the front rotors need
> to be machined again.
>
> I asked why the rotors would be warped again after so few miles and
> was told it had nothing to do with the number of miles driven. I was
> told it could be caused by rust buildup or hard braking or 'panic'
> braking. There is no rust on the rotors and I don't see how hard
> braking would be the reason in my case. I'm not a fast driver and I
> consider most of my braking to be 'moderate'. That said, I would
> think that the rotors should be robust enough to withstand the
> occasional heavy braking. At the moment the pulsation is not severe
> and I've declined to have the work done.
>
> For what it's worth, here's the rest of the history on my brakes:
> - 03/2003 - rear rotors and pads replaced at 33555 miles.
> - 02/2005 - front rotors and pads replaced at 54060 miles.
> - 06/2005 - rear rotors and pads replaced at 55726 miles.
>
> I have heard or read somewhere on the internet that the brakes on this
> vehicle are not one of it's strong points. In addition I also read
> where GM decided to return to using drum brakes on the rear of these
> pickups. This suggests to me that rear disk brakes have been
> problematic on these vehicles.
>
> What I would like is for my GM dealer to replace or machine my rotors
> without charge since I think the damage should not have occurred with
> so few miles. GM won't give into my request easily of course if they
> can blame it on driver error.
>
> So what I'm looking for is written proof that these brakes just don't
> stand up well. Are there others who've had similar problems? Do you
> know if such problems have been written up somewhere - something I can
> take to GM to prove there is a problem?
>
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
>
> Clark



Chev 2000 Front brake rotor pulsation Can Mean:

1) Warped front brake rotors OR

2) A bad front wheel speed sensor or sensors where 1 or both front
brakes ABS pulse
at low speeds when they should not pulse on dry pavement.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:00 am
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More information on my warped rotors.

In a GM Saturn Warranty Administration document, I quote the
following:

Lateral Run Out (LRO) can be induced when uneven torque is applied to
wheel nuts (lug nuts). Improper wheel tightening after tire rotation,
spare tire usage, brake inspection, etc. can be the cause of
pulsation. Again, it usually takes 4800-16000 km (3000-10000 mi)
AFTER an event for the condition to surface. The owner or driver does
not usually make the connection between the service event and the
awareness of the pulsation. The proper use of torque wrenches and/or
torque sticks (torque limiting sockets) will greatly reduce or
eliminate the pulsation conditions after wheel service events. The
improper use of impact wrenches on wheel nuts greatly increases the
likelihood of pulsation after wheel service.

End quote

In my case, all 4 rotors were machined July/06 to correct warpage.
After driving only 12429 km, I again experenced brake pulsation.
Dealer inspected brakes and found that rotors were again warped. At
this time, I didn't have the problem corrected. Since wheels had been
removed and replaced after brake examination, i decided to check the
wheel nuts tightness myself with a torque wrench. I discovered that
tightness ranged from a low of 75 pd-ft to a high of 180 pd-ft
(correct torque should have been 140 pd-ft). This was an indication
to me that a torque wrench had not been used. The miles I'd driven
since the last time rotors were machined is within the range mentioned
in the Saturn document. I maintain that if the dealer technicians
hadn't followed procedure this time, perhaps they hadn't back in July/
06 either. So my rotors may well have been warped the second time due
to improper wheel tightening.

I took this information to my dealer and he agreed to pick up the
labour costs for machining front rotors, servicing rear brakes and
replacing rear rotors. I had to pay for the cost of the rear rotors
themselves but the charge was less than retail. I didn't feel I
should have had to pay for the rotors but dealer maintained that there
was room for the possibility that hard braking may have been partly
responsible for the problem. I couldn't prove otherwise of course, so
partial compensation was better than none had I been stubborn about
this.

I hope this info helps some of you with similar problems. Check
tightness of wheel nuts after dealer does servicing.


Clark




On Jul 29, 2:14 pm, Clark wrote:
> Hello, I'm new here. I'm hoping someone can help with my problem.
>
> My vehicle is a 2000 GMC Sierra 1500, 2WD. Last July/06, I had both
> front and rear rotors machined due to brake pulsation - this corrected
> the problem. At that time the milage was 67338 miles. Since then
> I've put on an additional 7723 miles and am again experiencing brake
> pulsation. My GM dealer tells me the rear rotors must be replaced
> (not enough material left to machine them). And the front rotors need
> to be machined again.
>
> I asked why the rotors would be warped again after so few miles and
> was told it had nothing to do with the number of miles driven. I was
> told it could be caused by rust buildup or hard braking or 'panic'
> braking. There is no rust on the rotors and I don't see how hard
> braking would be the reason in my case. I'm not a fast driver and I
> consider most of my braking to be 'moderate'. That said, I would
> think that the rotors should be robust enough to withstand the
> occasional heavy braking. At the moment the pulsation is not severe
> and I've declined to have the work done.
>
> For what it's worth, here's the rest of the history on my brakes:
> - 03/2003 - rear rotors and pads replaced at 33555 miles.
> - 02/2005 - front rotors and pads replaced at 54060 miles.
> - 06/2005 - rear rotors and pads replaced at 55726 miles.
>
> I have heard or read somewhere on the internet that the brakes on this
> vehicle are not one of it's strong points. In addition I also read
> where GM decided to return to using drum brakes on the rear of these
> pickups. This suggests to me that rear disk brakes have been
> problematic on these vehicles.
>
> What I would like is for my GM dealer to replace or machine my rotors
> without charge since I think the damage should not have occurred with
> so few miles. GM won't give into my request easily of course if they
> can blame it on driver error.
>
> So what I'm looking for is written proof that these brakes just don't
> stand up well. Are there others who've had similar problems? Do you
> know if such problems have been written up somewhere - something I can
> take to GM to prove there is a problem?
>
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
>
> Clark
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:05 pm
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I agree, excellent research which paid off. This thing about panic braking
warping the rotors is a scam by GM I believe. There's no reason for that to
warp rotors unless the rotors themselves are completely inadequate.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:55 pm
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"Battleax" wrote in message

>I agree, excellent research which paid off. This thing about panic braking
> warping the rotors is a scam by GM I believe. There's no reason for that
> to
> warp rotors unless the rotors themselves are completely inadequate.
>
>
>
I all most agree with you Battleax. panic stopping is the wrong wording,
but its easier
on the customer accusing them of being the type of driver that is always on
the brakes hard because they dont know how to anticipate traffic movement
and red lights, and there are a lot of them..
And am no way am I saying this is the case with the OP in this thread.
Stories I could tell you from my records about abused brakes would keep us
up all weekend at least and require a large stock of 'refreshements", but
then I am sure you could swap some loo-loos with me as well.

Whitelightning
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