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Joe Pfeiffer

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(Msg. 46) Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:25 pm
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Steve writes:

> Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> > remember some unbelievably ignorant questions I asked the first time
> > I did a tuneup on a car with an automatic transmission...)
>
> Hmmmm.... sounds like I may have forgotten a good story... Wink

It started with, "it has to be in Drive when setting the idle speed,
right?" and went downhill rapidly from there.

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Simon

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(Msg. 47) Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:57 pm
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"Henry Bemis" wrote in message

> Very true. Diodes don't like reversed voltage. A co-worker put the battery
> in backwards on a ThermoKing refrigeration trailer, loaded of
> course......Guess who got to fix his screw up? Yep, me.
>
> That unit never did work right after that, even after replacing nearly
> $1,000 in parts. So, yeah, depending on what you do it to, it can be
> expensive. Sometimes though not always in parts, but the time (also
> expensive) to find what else got fried.
>
>> The actual voltage was applied everywhere, but 12 volts the wrong way
>> isn't going to hurt anything. It's too wimpy.
>
> 12 volts wimpy? Here's an experiment.....lay your sweaty arm across the
> leads of a 12 volt automotive battery. Please report back. When there 700
> amps available at 12 volts, somethings gonna give.
>
>> You could take a postive ground vehicle and convert it over to negative
>> ground with no big deal. The generators had permanent magnets in them,
>> so you'd have to rewire that to get it to work at full output, but again,
>> that was no big deal. A motor with no permanent magnets will work either
>> way, and obviously all the lights and other resistance loads like that
>> don't care.
>
> That's the point we're making. Duh! Wink (humor mode here).
>
> There were even older cars that had positive to earth voltage setups, if I
> recall. I'd ask my Uncle Bob, but he died long ago.
>

lol...beat me to it...it's not the volts that kill you, it's the amps. i was
working on a 24 volt (2 12volt batteries) electric wheelchair once and i
hadn't noticed the owner had put a non-standard plug on the charger cable.
it had exposed prongs and it touched the metal frame....wow....fireworks
and the plug welded itself to the frame while burning a hole in it...and
this was heavy gauge chromed steel...and that was only a 100 amps system...

as you say, 700 amps can create quite a show.

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Bill Putney

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(Msg. 48) Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:39 am
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Simon wrote:

> ...it's not the volts that kill you, it's the amps...

Since areas of the body have a characteristic resistance, because of
Ohm's law (for a given resistance, voltage and current are
proportional), I've always thought that was an extremely ignorant cliché
- a way for semi-technical people to try to impress non-technical
people, when in reality it shows ignorance (to the truly technical
person). Either the person making the statement is ignorant of Ohm's
law or its implications, or hasn't thought the meaning of the statement
thru before making it. In reality it also comes down to what the
impedance of the source of the voltage and current is (resistor divider
effect), but on its face, the cliché shows ignorance.

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