Battery replacement issue (big one)

On Jul 14, 5:56 pm, Ken Weitzel wrote:
> afx wrote:
> > Thats exactly what I thought it sounded like, but the thing is I put
> > the battery cables on just like the old battery had them on, the weird
> > thing I was thinking of was the negative cable connected to the left
> > side of that red post that the positive connects to the other side, is
> > that correctly done? Maybe the old battery just didnt have enough
> > juice to give this reaction?
>
> Hi afx...
>
> Not a mechanic, an old retired electrical guy...
>
> You are aware that batteries are available with the positive
> and negative posts in the opposite physical positions, aren't
> you?
>
> Didn't say that at all well, so.... put the postive cable on the
> positive post, and the neg on neg, even if the battery posts aren't
> in the same positions on the battery.
>
> I'm willing to bet you a dollar against a stale donut that you've
> reversed them.
>
> Take care.
>
> Ken

Haha, Thanks for the reply Ken, Im a computer tech, not a car guy I
can just usually plug the two together for answers. I took some
pictures. Lemme upload em.
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On Jul 14, 7:25 pm, aarcuda69062 wrote:
> In article
> ,
>
> afx wrote:
> > Well the markings on the first picture have a negative on it so im
> > sure thats the negative side, if that black cable connected to the red
> > post is a negative cable then I did it right.
>
> That's just it, that is NOT the negative cable, it's the positive
> cable. You connected the battery backwards, and like Joe said,
> one can only wonder how much damage was caused.
>
> > Here is whats confusing me, I just put in a new battery, I didnt
> > change anything else out, the car started fine before I put the new
> > batt in.
>
> Uh, yeah, because you hooked it (the new battery) up backwards.

gocha, going to check on what I did manana.
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On Jul 14, 7:35 pm, aarcuda69062 wrote:
> In article
> ,
>
> afx wrote:
> > So is it still a consensus that I put it on backwards?
>
> I guarantee that you hooked it up backwards.
>
> > The cable on
> > the last picture is red so I figure it to be a positive.
>
> Cables come in all sorts of colors. You may notice that the fuse
> link that failed is connected to a red wire. hmmm...
>
> > To answer your cap question, about 5 years ago she took it to Sams to
> > have a new batt put in. They didnt know how to do it so they butchered
> > the hell out of the whole area braking caps and whatnot so I dont have
> > any caps left
>
> Thank Chrysler for putting safe guards on their vehicles,
> otherwise you'd be posting with a face full of battery acid.

I appreciate that. /sarcasm
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On Jul 14, 6:12 pm, Bill Putney wrote:
> afx wrote:
> > ...the negative cable connected to the left
> > side of that red post that the positive connects to the other side, is
> > that correctly done?...
>
> Negative = black; positive = red (the opposite of the convention used in
> economics).
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> address with the letter 'x')

here are the pics.


http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view&current=IM..._006.jp
pic of the cables in general including the thick black one I replaced
that I connected to negative.

http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view&current=IM..._007.jp
Auxiliary cable that got severed

http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view&current=IM..._008.jp
Picture of the positive battery terminal on the positive side of the
battery.


Hope this helps!
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On Jul 14, 6:50 pm, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> afx writes:
>
> >http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view¤t=I...
> > pic of the cables in general including the thick black one I replaced
> > that I connected to negative.
>
> As Bill said, black is negative, red is positive. That's the positive
> side; on my wife's '00 Intrepid, there's a black cover over it
> labelled "BATTERY + JUMP START" in bright yellow. Didn't yours have
> that cover?
>
> >http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view¤t=I...
> > Auxiliary cable that got severed
>
> Looks like a fusible link that failed due to high current. A moment
> of silence, please: that fusible link gave its life to try to save the
> car's electronics.
>
> >http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view¤t=I...
> > Picture of the positive battery terminal on the positive side of the
> > battery.
>
> I can't make out any markings that help me to guess what's going on
> here. I see you put red felt under the cable; I can't see any
> markings telling that that that's really the positive side. Your
> camera seems to have decided the battery strap and something in a
> sheath were more interesting than the battery, and focussed on them.
>
> So... if I'm reading what you've said correctly, and I'm looking at
> the photos correctly, you hooked up the battery backwards. There is
> at least one toasted fusible link, and that positive battery lead in
> the first picture doesn't look good either.
>
> I don't even want to think about what might have happened to the
> various computers, radios, etc wandering around the vehicle. Good
> luck...

Well the markings on the first picture have a negative on it so im
sure thats the negative side, if that black cable connected to the red
post is a negative cable then I did it right.


Here is whats confusing me, I just put in a new battery, I didnt
change anything else out, the car started fine before I put the new
batt in.
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On Jul 14, 6:53 pm, afx wrote:
> On Jul 14, 6:50 pm, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > afx writes:
>
> > >http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view¤t=I....
> > > pic of the cables in general including the thick black one I replaced
> > > that I connected to negative.
>
> > As Bill said, black is negative, red is positive. That's the positive
> > side; on my wife's '00 Intrepid, there's a black cover over it
> > labelled "BATTERY + JUMP START" in bright yellow. Didn't yours have
> > that cover?
>
> > >http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view¤t=I....
> > > Auxiliary cable that got severed
>
> > Looks like a fusible link that failed due to high current. A moment
> > of silence, please: that fusible link gave its life to try to save the
> > car's electronics.
>
> > >http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view¤t=I....
> > > Picture of the positive battery terminal on the positive side of the
> > > battery.
>
> > I can't make out any markings that help me to guess what's going on
> > here. I see you put red felt under the cable; I can't see any
> > markings telling that that that's really the positive side. Your
> > camera seems to have decided the battery strap and something in a
> > sheath were more interesting than the battery, and focussed on them.
>
> > So... if I'm reading what you've said correctly, and I'm looking at
> > the photos correctly, you hooked up the battery backwards. There is
> > at least one toasted fusible link, and that positive battery lead in
> > the first picture doesn't look good either.
>
> > I don't even want to think about what might have happened to the
> > various computers, radios, etc wandering around the vehicle. Good
> > luck...
>
> Well the markings on the first picture have a negative on it so im
> sure thats the negative side, if that black cable connected to the red
> post is a negative cable then I did it right.
>
> Here is whats confusing me, I just put in a new battery, I didnt
> change anything else out, the car started fine before I put the new
> batt in.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -





So is it still a consensus that I put it on backwards? The cable on
the last picture is red so I figure it to be a positive.

To answer your cap question, about 5 years ago she took it to Sams to
have a new batt put in. They didnt know how to do it so they butchered
the hell out of the whole area braking caps and whatnot so I dont have
any caps left
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afx writes:
>
> http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view&current=IM..._006.jp
> pic of the cables in general including the thick black one I replaced
> that I connected to negative.

As Bill said, black is negative, red is positive. That's the positive
side; on my wife's '00 Intrepid, there's a black cover over it
labelled "BATTERY + JUMP START" in bright yellow. Didn't yours have
that cover?

> http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view&current=IM..._007.jp
> Auxiliary cable that got severed

Looks like a fusible link that failed due to high current. A moment
of silence, please: that fusible link gave its life to try to save the
car's electronics.

> http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/?action=view&current=IM..._008.jp
> Picture of the positive battery terminal on the positive side of the
> battery.

I can't make out any markings that help me to guess what's going on
here. I see you put red felt under the cable; I can't see any
markings telling that that that's really the positive side. Your
camera seems to have decided the battery strap and something in a
sheath were more interesting than the battery, and focussed on them.

So... if I'm reading what you've said correctly, and I'm looking at
the photos correctly, you hooked up the battery backwards. There is
at least one toasted fusible link, and that positive battery lead in
the first picture doesn't look good either.

I don't even want to think about what might have happened to the
various computers, radios, etc wandering around the vehicle. Good
luck...
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Thats exactly what I thought it sounded like, but the thing is I put
the battery cables on just like the old battery had them on, the weird
thing I was thinking of was the negative cable connected to the left
side of that red post that the positive connects to the other side, is
that correctly done? Maybe the old battery just didnt have enough
juice to give this reaction?
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afx wrote:
> ...the negative cable connected to the left
> side of that red post that the positive connects to the other side, is
> that correctly done?...

Negative = black; positive = red (the opposite of the convention used in
economics).

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')
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afx writes:
>
> Well the markings on the first picture have a negative on it so im
> sure thats the negative side, if that black cable connected to the red
> post is a negative cable then I did it right.

That red post is to put a positive cable on.
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On Jul 14, 5:43 pm, afx wrote:
> Thats exactly what I thought it sounded like, but the thing is I put
> the battery cables on just like the old battery had them on, the weird
> thing I was thinking of was the negative cable connected to the left
> side of that red post that the positive connects to the other side, is
> that correctly done? Maybe the old battery just didnt have enough
> juice to give this reaction?

And would you know why the windshield wipers wont turn off? is that
because the auxiliary wire was severed?
Thanks for the help!
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afx wrote:
> Thats exactly what I thought it sounded like, but the thing is I put
> the battery cables on just like the old battery had them on, the weird
> thing I was thinking of was the negative cable connected to the left
> side of that red post that the positive connects to the other side, is
> that correctly done? Maybe the old battery just didnt have enough
> juice to give this reaction?

Hi afx...

Not a mechanic, an old retired electrical guy...

You are aware that batteries are available with the positive
and negative posts in the opposite physical positions, aren't
you?

Didn't say that at all well, so.... put the postive cable on the
positive post, and the neg on neg, even if the battery posts aren't
in the same positions on the battery.

I'm willing to bet you a dollar against a stale donut that you've
reversed them.

Take care.

Ken
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In article
,
afx wrote:

> Well the markings on the first picture have a negative on it so im
> sure thats the negative side, if that black cable connected to the red
> post is a negative cable then I did it right.

That's just it, that is NOT the negative cable, it's the positive
cable. You connected the battery backwards, and like Joe said,
one can only wonder how much damage was caused.

> Here is whats confusing me, I just put in a new battery, I didnt
> change anything else out, the car started fine before I put the new
> batt in.

Uh, yeah, because you hooked it (the new battery) up backwards.
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