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Bob La Londe

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:39 am
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If there are only about three companies making batteries now-a-days then who
makes Delco batteries? Way back when we had WD (through our hardware and
autoparts store) pricing for AC/Delco parts (15-20 years ago) we sold Delco
batteries, and of the various types we had sold we had the fewest (almost
none) problems with Delco batteries. We stocked them for everything.

Since I started buying new GM/Chevy trucks in 2001 I have had battery
problems with every single one. Well, my brand new 2008 has not had any
problems yet, but its only a couple months old. Anyway, I had several of
them replaced under warranty, but I got tired of having to have the truck(s)
towed over to them so they could remove the old and install the new batttery
to qualify under warranty. Between time lost and effort it was cheaper to
just go buy a battery and replace it myself.

2001 Sonoma
2002 S-10
2002 Avalanche (1/2 ton Z66)
2003 Silverado 2500HD
2004 Colorado

2008 Silverado 1500 (still has stock battery for now)

I just started installing CarQuest labeled 84 month warranty batteries, and
I have not had a problem since. Even on the 2002 S-10 that went through
three Delco batteries in the first year and a half. The battery in that
truck is well over 3 years old now.

Since some hear have claimed that there are only three companies making
batteries anymore. With that being said is one of those plants better or
worse than the others?

Is there any way to identify which is which?

If I had a short life battery in just one truck I'ld have thought it was
normal. It happens, but in five different trucks? I suppose I should say
that the S-10 had a unique failure on two of its three failures. The first
two failed because one of the terminals fell off (out of?) the battery. The
others just all failed in less than 18 months. Sometimes much less.

I don't leave the lights on. My trucks are each driven by different
employees, and we don't use them idling to run equipment. Other than being
used as work vehicles to carry tools and supplies they are driven normally
and serviced more regularly than the average personal vehicle.

I'm sure my experience with Delco batteries has to be unique with so many
failures, but still even if I happened to just get 8 bad batteries that
would still indicate what I would think is a higher than average number of
bad batteries in service. All were under warranty, but I quit putting Delco
batteries back in, and just started spending cash for the long warranty
CarQuest label batteries because I don't seem to have the short life with
them. I have yet to have to replace even one of them. All have been in
service longer than the longest service life I got out of the factory
batteries. Why? We have not driven them differently. Except for the S-10
leaking acid out of the broken terminals there was no corrosion. I do coat
all battery terminals with grease when replacing a battery, but I can't
imagine that tiny bit of preventative maintenance can be making the
difference.

P.S. The CarQuest batteries are not cheap. I don't mind paying a
reasonable price for good equipment.

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Meat Plow

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:24 pm
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Eugene

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:46 pm
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Bob La Londe wrote:

> If there are only about three companies making batteries now-a-days then
> who
> makes Delco batteries? Way back when we had WD (through our hardware and
> autoparts store) pricing for AC/Delco parts (15-20 years ago) we sold
> Delco batteries, and of the various types we had sold we had the fewest
> (almost
> none) problems with Delco batteries. We stocked them for everything.
>
> Since I started buying new GM/Chevy trucks in 2001 I have had battery
> problems with every single one. Well, my brand new 2008 has not had any
> problems yet, but its only a couple months old. Anyway, I had several of
> them replaced under warranty, but I got tired of having to have the
> truck(s) towed over to them so they could remove the old and install the
> new batttery
> to qualify under warranty. Between time lost and effort it was cheaper to
> just go buy a battery and replace it myself.
>
> 2001 Sonoma
> 2002 S-10
> 2002 Avalanche (1/2 ton Z66)
> 2003 Silverado 2500HD
> 2004 Colorado
>
> 2008 Silverado 1500 (still has stock battery for now)
>
> I just started installing CarQuest labeled 84 month warranty batteries,
> and
> I have not had a problem since. Even on the 2002 S-10 that went through
> three Delco batteries in the first year and a half. The battery in that
> truck is well over 3 years old now.
>
> Since some hear have claimed that there are only three companies making
> batteries anymore. With that being said is one of those plants better or
> worse than the others?
>
> Is there any way to identify which is which?
>
> If I had a short life battery in just one truck I'ld have thought it was
> normal. It happens, but in five different trucks? I suppose I should say
> that the S-10 had a unique failure on two of its three failures. The
> first
> two failed because one of the terminals fell off (out of?) the battery.
> The
> others just all failed in less than 18 months. Sometimes much less.
>
> I don't leave the lights on. My trucks are each driven by different
> employees, and we don't use them idling to run equipment. Other than
> being used as work vehicles to carry tools and supplies they are driven
> normally and serviced more regularly than the average personal vehicle.
>
> I'm sure my experience with Delco batteries has to be unique with so many
> failures, but still even if I happened to just get 8 bad batteries that
> would still indicate what I would think is a higher than average number of
> bad batteries in service. All were under warranty, but I quit putting
> Delco batteries back in, and just started spending cash for the long
> warranty CarQuest label batteries because I don't seem to have the short
> life with
> them. I have yet to have to replace even one of them. All have been in
> service longer than the longest service life I got out of the factory
> batteries. Why? We have not driven them differently. Except for the
> S-10
> leaking acid out of the broken terminals there was no corrosion. I do
> coat all battery terminals with grease when replacing a battery, but I
> can't imagine that tiny bit of preventative maintenance can be making the
> difference.
>
> P.S. The CarQuest batteries are not cheap. I don't mind paying a
> reasonable price for good equipment.
>

The s10 was due to the bolt. They put too long of a bolt in the cable and
it would crack the soft lead terminal when it bottomed out. That is why
the s10 kept failing. I don't know if the problem is the same in the
others or not, I only had an s10 then.
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William R. Walsh

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:39 am
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Hi!

> If there are only about three companies making batteries now-a-days
> then who makes Delco batteries?

I am not sure, although I would like to know if anyone has that information.

The last I knew, the address given on the Delco batteries was still
Anderson, Indiana. The only other place I've seen that location was on
"American Energy" brand batteries sold at a nearby farm store. So I suspect
that GM or Delphi is still assembling batteries there, or that the operation
was spun off into a separate company.

I've had mixed results with the Delco batteries.

Actually, come to think of it, if Exide Technologies and Johnson Controls
are two battery makers, whoever has the ACDelco batteries plant could be the
third...

William
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JBDragon

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:37 pm
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I was watching some TV show on How things are Made, one one of them was
Automotive Battery's. They make them and stick whatever label case is
needed depending on the customer. A lot of things these days are just made
by a few company's and it's just a different package. Of course the Battery
designs may very depending on the customers demands. They're all aren't
exactly the same. My Delco battery lasted me about 3 years. I currently
have a Kirkland Costco Battery I've had for 2. I had some problems with it,
but I cleaned up the somewhat corroded terminals and it seems fine so far.
I was going to get a Optima but they were out, I was out of town and had to
get a jump once and got the Kirkland since I was already at Costco with a
dead battery.


"William R. Walsh" <newsgroups1 RemoveThis @idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com>
wrote in message news:JZfLj.60267$TT4.38549@attbi_s22...
> Hi!
>
>> If there are only about three companies making batteries now-a-days
>> then who makes Delco batteries?
>
> I am not sure, although I would like to know if anyone has that
> information.
>
> The last I knew, the address given on the Delco batteries was still
> Anderson, Indiana. The only other place I've seen that location was on
> "American Energy" brand batteries sold at a nearby farm store. So I
> suspect
> that GM or Delphi is still assembling batteries there, or that the
> operation
> was spun off into a separate company.
>
> I've had mixed results with the Delco batteries.
>
> Actually, come to think of it, if Exide Technologies and Johnson Controls
> are two battery makers, whoever has the ACDelco batteries plant could be
> the
> third...
>
> William
>
>
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