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DC

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:26 pm
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(Car Lust) - My friend drives a big honkin' manly-man's
Chevy Silverado 4x4 truck. He commented that while he was
very happy with his Silverado, he was so incensed with the
federal bailouts of GM and Chrysler that he would never
again buy anything built by (as he called it) "Government
Motors."

Over the next several months, I heard similar declarations
from a few others I crossed paths with. They were
absolutely, positively never--never, I say!--going to buy
anything from one of the bailed-out automakers. On the
other hand, I don't recall anyone openly expressing support
for the GM or Chrysler bailouts, or any great desire to get
new wheels from the newly nationalized manufacturers.

I happen to live in one of Ohio's more conservative
counties, so I wasn't surprised to hear people talking like
that. Because my hometown is what it is, politically
speaking, I figured that what I was encountering was not
necessarily a representative sample of opinion across the
state, or across the country.

Six months later, I'm not so sure it wasn't--and here's
why...

Continued: http://xrl.us/BailoutBlues

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Canuck57

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:22 pm
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On 14/01/2010 8:04 PM, DC wrote:

> (Car Lust) - My friend drives a big honkin' manly-man's
> Chevy Silverado 4x4 truck. He commented that while he was
> very happy with his Silverado, he was so incensed with the
> federal bailouts of GM and Chrysler that he would never
> again buy anything built by (as he called it) "Government
> Motors."

Government Motors
Greedy Motors
Good-bye Money
Graft Moneys

Many of us will not buy from them, no mater what you call them.

> Over the next several months, I heard similar declarations
> from a few others I crossed paths with. They were
> absolutely, positively never--never, I say!--going to buy
> anything from one of the bailed-out automakers. On the
> other hand, I don't recall anyone openly expressing support
> for the GM or Chrysler bailouts, or any great desire to get
> new wheels from the newly nationalized manufacturers.

It is because governmetn is no longer listen to the people. They listen
to $5000 politicial contributions, corruption and statism. They sold us
out. About 80% of the population was dead against bailouts. Yet
congress, senate and Obama (democrat super-marxists) decided they know
better and have behind the scenes buddies that want the money.

> I happen to live in one of Ohio's more conservative
> counties, so I wasn't surprised to hear people talking like
> that. Because my hometown is what it is, politically
> speaking, I figured that what I was encountering was not
> necessarily a representative sample of opinion across the
> state, or across the country.

Think, you are a farmer with no GM products, yet you pay GM, Chrysler
and bankls taxes. And might even get less Social Security as government
adds up the debt. Because this is worst than a simple bailout, it piles
debt with interest on you and your kids for a generation.

Makes you and I slaves to corporate, corruption and governemtn taxation.

Tax sheeples.

> Six months later, I'm not so sure it wasn't--and here's
> why...
>
> Continued: http://xrl.us/BailoutBlues

Does not mater how you cook it. Obama and democrats are now
responsibile for the biggest fraud in US taxpayer history. And the
largest increase in debt in one year in the whole world.

And if you don't think it will hurt your wealth in the future, let us
know how...

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Rob

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:06 pm
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General Misery


"Canuck57" wrote in message

> On 14/01/2010 8:04 PM, DC wrote:
>
>> (Car Lust) - My friend drives a big honkin' manly-man's
>> Chevy Silverado 4x4 truck. He commented that while he was
>> very happy with his Silverado, he was so incensed with the
>> federal bailouts of GM and Chrysler that he would never
>> again buy anything built by (as he called it) "Government
>> Motors."
>
> Government Motors
> Greedy Motors
> Good-bye Money
> Graft Moneys
>
> Many of us will not buy from them, no mater what you call them.
>
>> Over the next several months, I heard similar declarations
>> from a few others I crossed paths with. They were
>> absolutely, positively never--never, I say!--going to buy
>> anything from one of the bailed-out automakers. On the
>> other hand, I don't recall anyone openly expressing support
>> for the GM or Chrysler bailouts, or any great desire to get
>> new wheels from the newly nationalized manufacturers.
>
> It is because governmetn is no longer listen to the people. They listen
> to $5000 politicial contributions, corruption and statism. They sold us
> out. About 80% of the population was dead against bailouts. Yet
> congress, senate and Obama (democrat super-marxists) decided they know
> better and have behind the scenes buddies that want the money.
>
>> I happen to live in one of Ohio's more conservative
>> counties, so I wasn't surprised to hear people talking like
>> that. Because my hometown is what it is, politically
>> speaking, I figured that what I was encountering was not
>> necessarily a representative sample of opinion across the
>> state, or across the country.
>
> Think, you are a farmer with no GM products, yet you pay GM, Chrysler and
> bankls taxes. And might even get less Social Security as government adds
> up the debt. Because this is worst than a simple bailout, it piles debt
> with interest on you and your kids for a generation.
>
> Makes you and I slaves to corporate, corruption and governemtn taxation.
>
> Tax sheeples.
>
>> Six months later, I'm not so sure it wasn't--and here's
>> why...
>>
>> Continued: http://xrl.us/BailoutBlues
>
> Does not mater how you cook it. Obama and democrats are now responsibile
> for the biggest fraud in US taxpayer history. And the largest increase in
> debt in one year in the whole world.
>
> And if you don't think it will hurt your wealth in the future, let us know
> how...
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Canuck57

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:06 pm
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On 15/01/2010 9:06 PM, Rob wrote:

General Misery
Gone Mad
Government Motors
Greedy Motors
Good-bye Money
Graft Moneys
Green Mulcher

Good add, any more anyone? Lets get a good list.

Voracious
Obamanation
Liberaly
Taxing
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SMF

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:41 am
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On 1/15/2010 10:21 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
> On 15/01/2010 9:06 PM, Rob wrote:
>
> General Misery
> Gone Mad
> Government Motors
> Greedy Motors
> Good-bye Money
> Graft Moneys
> Green Mulcher
>
> Good add, any more anyone? Lets get a good list.

Gestapo Motoren
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Mike Hunter

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:22 pm
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Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL

"Canuck57" wrote in message

> On 14/01/2010 8:04 PM, DC wrote:
>
>> (Car Lust) - My friend drives a big honkin' manly-man's
>> Chevy Silverado 4x4 truck. He commented that while he was
>> very happy with his Silverado, he was so incensed with the
>> federal bailouts of GM and Chrysler that he would never
>> again buy anything built by (as he called it) "Government
>> Motors."
>
> Government Motors
> Greedy Motors
> Good-bye Money
> Graft Moneys
>
> Many of us will not buy from them, no mater what you call them.
>
>> Over the next several months, I heard similar declarations
>> from a few others I crossed paths with. They were
>> absolutely, positively never--never, I say!--going to buy
>> anything from one of the bailed-out automakers. On the
>> other hand, I don't recall anyone openly expressing support
>> for the GM or Chrysler bailouts, or any great desire to get
>> new wheels from the newly nationalized manufacturers.
>
> It is because governmetn is no longer listen to the people. They listen
> to $5000 politicial contributions, corruption and statism. They sold us
> out. About 80% of the population was dead against bailouts. Yet
> congress, senate and Obama (democrat super-marxists) decided they know
> better and have behind the scenes buddies that want the money.
>
>> I happen to live in one of Ohio's more conservative
>> counties, so I wasn't surprised to hear people talking like
>> that. Because my hometown is what it is, politically
>> speaking, I figured that what I was encountering was not
>> necessarily a representative sample of opinion across the
>> state, or across the country.
>
> Think, you are a farmer with no GM products, yet you pay GM, Chrysler and
> bankls taxes. And might even get less Social Security as government adds
> up the debt. Because this is worst than a simple bailout, it piles debt
> with interest on you and your kids for a generation.
>
> Makes you and I slaves to corporate, corruption and governemtn taxation.
>
> Tax sheeples.
>
>> Six months later, I'm not so sure it wasn't--and here's
>> why...
>>
>> Continued: http://xrl.us/BailoutBlues
>
> Does not mater how you cook it. Obama and democrats are now responsibile
> for the biggest fraud in US taxpayer history. And the largest increase in
> debt in one year in the whole world.
>
> And if you don't think it will hurt your wealth in the future, let us know
> how...
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Mike Hunter

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:22 pm
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Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL

"Canuck57" wrote in message

> On 15/01/2010 9:06 PM, Rob wrote:
>
> General Misery
> Gone Mad
> Government Motors
> Greedy Motors
> Good-bye Money
> Graft Moneys
> Green Mulcher
>
> Good add, any more anyone? Lets get a good list.
>
> Voracious
> Obamanation
> Liberaly
> Taxing
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Canuck57

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:30 pm
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On 16/01/2010 8:41 AM, SMF wrote:

Gestapo Motoren
Grifting Me
General Misery
Gone Mad
Government Motors
Greedy Motors
Good-bye Money
Graft Moneys
Green Mulcher

Good one.
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Canuck57

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:30 pm
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Said Mike, the supporter of grifting.

On 16/01/2010 11:22 AM, Mike Hunter wrote:
> Once again our friend Canuck57 is telling us the sky is falling LOL
>
> "Canuck57" wrote in message
>
>> On 14/01/2010 8:04 PM, DC wrote:
>>
>>> (Car Lust) - My friend drives a big honkin' manly-man's
>>> Chevy Silverado 4x4 truck. He commented that while he was
>>> very happy with his Silverado, he was so incensed with the
>>> federal bailouts of GM and Chrysler that he would never
>>> again buy anything built by (as he called it) "Government
>>> Motors."
>>
>> Government Motors
>> Greedy Motors
>> Good-bye Money
>> Graft Moneys
>>
>> Many of us will not buy from them, no mater what you call them.
>>
>>> Over the next several months, I heard similar declarations
>>> from a few others I crossed paths with. They were
>>> absolutely, positively never--never, I say!--going to buy
>>> anything from one of the bailed-out automakers. On the
>>> other hand, I don't recall anyone openly expressing support
>>> for the GM or Chrysler bailouts, or any great desire to get
>>> new wheels from the newly nationalized manufacturers.
>>
>> It is because governmetn is no longer listen to the people. They listen
>> to $5000 politicial contributions, corruption and statism. They sold us
>> out. About 80% of the population was dead against bailouts. Yet
>> congress, senate and Obama (democrat super-marxists) decided they know
>> better and have behind the scenes buddies that want the money.
>>
>>> I happen to live in one of Ohio's more conservative
>>> counties, so I wasn't surprised to hear people talking like
>>> that. Because my hometown is what it is, politically
>>> speaking, I figured that what I was encountering was not
>>> necessarily a representative sample of opinion across the
>>> state, or across the country.
>>
>> Think, you are a farmer with no GM products, yet you pay GM, Chrysler and
>> bankls taxes. And might even get less Social Security as government adds
>> up the debt. Because this is worst than a simple bailout, it piles debt
>> with interest on you and your kids for a generation.
>>
>> Makes you and I slaves to corporate, corruption and governemtn taxation.
>>
>> Tax sheeples.
>>
>>> Six months later, I'm not so sure it wasn't--and here's
>>> why...
>>>
>>> Continued: http://xrl.us/BailoutBlues
>>
>> Does not mater how you cook it. Obama and democrats are now responsibile
>> for the biggest fraud in US taxpayer history. And the largest increase in
>> debt in one year in the whole world.
>>
>> And if you don't think it will hurt your wealth in the future, let us know
>> how...
>
>
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Rockinghorse Winner

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:07 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:46 am
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I have a 03' Silverado that I will keep on the road as long as I practically
and economically can, but when it comes time for a new truck it will not be
a Guvmet Motos are a Duk-n-Dodge. The only 'American' possibility will be a
Ford, but they will have to compete with the Toyota, Mazda, Honda, etc.
companies.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:04 am
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:46:01 -0600, "Dr.Smith"
wrote:

>I have a 03' Silverado that I will keep on the road as long as I practically
>and economically can, but when it comes time for a new truck it will not be
>a Guvmet Motos are a Duk-n-Dodge. The only 'American' possibility will be a
>Ford, but they will have to compete with the Toyota, Mazda, Honda, etc.
>companies.
>

For commercial duty trucks (say 3/4 ton and larger) I don't see much
competition from any imports. Especially in the 4x4 versions needed
for construction, etc.

Imports are primarily consumer in the small(er) truck market. There
are heavy duty imports, but nothing in that mid range.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:21 am
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Canuck57 wrote:
> On 15/01/2010 9:06 PM, Rob wrote:
>
> General Misery
> Gone Mad
> Government Motors
> Greedy Motors
> Good-bye Money
> Graft Moneys
> Green Mulcher
>
> Good add, any more anyone? Lets get a good list.
>
> Voracious
> Obamanation
> Liberaly
> Taxing


Gigantic Mistake
Garbage Motors
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Mike Hunter

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:13 pm
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Fat chance, in 2009 ALL of the foreign manufactures truck sales COMBINED
account for less than 10% of the truck market in the US


"Dr.Smith" wrote in message

>I have a 03' Silverado that I will keep on the road as long as I
>practically and economically can, but when it comes time for a new truck it
>will not be a Guvmet Motos are a Duk-n-Dodge. The only 'American'
>possibility will be a Ford, but they will have to compete with the Toyota,
>Mazda, Honda, etc. companies.
>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:13 pm
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And none of them sell worth $#it.


"PeterD" wrote in message

> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:46:01 -0600, "Dr.Smith"
> wrote:
>
>>I have a 03' Silverado that I will keep on the road as long as I
>>practically
>>and economically can, but when it comes time for a new truck it will not
>>be
>>a Guvmet Motos are a Duk-n-Dodge. The only 'American' possibility will be
>>a
>>Ford, but they will have to compete with the Toyota, Mazda, Honda, etc.
>>companies.
>>
>
> For commercial duty trucks (say 3/4 ton and larger) I don't see much
> competition from any imports. Especially in the 4x4 versions needed
> for construction, etc.
>
> Imports are primarily consumer in the small(er) truck market. There
> are heavy duty imports, but nothing in that mid range.
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