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Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 163
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:42 am
Post subject: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) Archived from groups: alt>autos>dodge>trucks (more info?)
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Hi All,
I'm heading out Wednesday morning on a ski trip. This will be the
first time I have taken my truck to such a cold place. Weather is
supposed to dip and stay below 0F.
I live in Dallas, so a broad selection of anti-gel additives are few
and far between. Those of you that live or have lived in warmer
climates like Dallas, what brand of additive do you recommend that I
can get here?
I plan to take an extension cord with me and plug it in at the condo.
Other than that, is there anything else I should concern myself with.
One thing that concerns me is the 75w-140 gear oil I put in it 6
months ago ...
TIA,
Craig C.
2004 Ram 2500, QC, 4x4, CRD >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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Since: Jan 16, 2008 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:51 am
Post subject: Re: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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If you figure on refueling at least once before you get to the ski area,
more than 3/4 of a tank, the cold weather area fuels will already be
winterized, so no additives needed, but if you don't need to refuel have an
additive ordered in by your fuel supplier or a parts store.
Budd
"Craig C." <mcraigchr.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> I'm heading out Wednesday morning on a ski trip. This will be the
> first time I have taken my truck to such a cold place. Weather is
> supposed to dip and stay below 0F.
>
> I live in Dallas, so a broad selection of anti-gel additives are few
> and far between. Those of you that live or have lived in warmer
> climates like Dallas, what brand of additive do you recommend that I
> can get here?
>
> I plan to take an extension cord with me and plug it in at the condo.
> Other than that, is there anything else I should concern myself with.
> One thing that concerns me is the 75w-140 gear oil I put in it 6
> months ago ...
>
> TIA,
> Craig C.
> 2004 Ram 2500, QC, 4x4, CRD >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 163
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Jan 21, 1:51 pm, PeterD <pet....RemoveThis@hipson.net> wrote:
> PS 911 is what I use. And yea, it gets cold here!
Well, I didn't say it didn't get cold in Dallas. It does. In fact,
it's pretty chilly today! It does not, however, get below 0 and stay
that way for days on end.
Here, I can leave my truck in my garage on the colder days. Where I
am going skiing, it will be sitting outside for 3 days in sub zero
temps. That concerns me a bit. Now, I will have the block heater
plugged in, but the fuel obviously could become a problem.
> I doubt the gear oil will be an issue, IMHO.
Good. I hope not.
I'll look for the PS 911.
Thanks,
Craig C. >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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Since: Jun 09, 2005 Posts: 19
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:27 pm
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"Craig C." <mcraigchr.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 21, 1:51 pm, PeterD <pet....RemoveThis@hipson.net> wrote:
>> PS 911 is what I use. And yea, it gets cold here!
>
> Well, I didn't say it didn't get cold in Dallas. It does. In fact,
> it's pretty chilly today! It does not, however, get below 0 and stay
> that way for days on end.
>
> Here, I can leave my truck in my garage on the colder days. Where I
> am going skiing, it will be sitting outside for 3 days in sub zero
> temps. That concerns me a bit. Now, I will have the block heater
> plugged in, but the fuel obviously could become a problem.
>
>> I doubt the gear oil will be an issue, IMHO.
>
> Good. I hope not.
>
> I'll look for the PS 911.
>
> Thanks,
> Craig C.
This is what I use in my Freightliner, should be able to find it at any
large
truck stop.
Howes Diesel Treat
Diesel Conditioner Plus Anti-Gel
As Budd pointed out, if you fill your tank when you get into the colder
country you should be ok, but I would put some additive in anyway. >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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Since: Aug 21, 2005 Posts: 368
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:51 pm
Post subject: Re: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:42:26 -0800 (PST), "Craig C."
<mcraigchr.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I'm heading out Wednesday morning on a ski trip. This will be the
>first time I have taken my truck to such a cold place. Weather is
>supposed to dip and stay below 0F.
>
>I live in Dallas, so a broad selection of anti-gel additives are few
>and far between. Those of you that live or have lived in warmer
>climates like Dallas, what brand of additive do you recommend that I
>can get here?
>
>I plan to take an extension cord with me and plug it in at the condo.
>Other than that, is there anything else I should concern myself with.
>One thing that concerns me is the 75w-140 gear oil I put in it 6
>months ago ...
>
>TIA,
>Craig C.
>2004 Ram 2500, QC, 4x4, CRD
PS 911 is what I use. And yea, it gets cold here!
I doubt the gear oil will be an issue, IMHO. >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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Since: Jan 16, 2008 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:02 pm
Post subject: Re: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Thanks, Tom.
I've been away from driving diesels for a few years, so I haven't kept up
with them much.
Budd
"Tom R" <tom42344.TakeThisOut@snotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Craig C." <mcraigchr.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:10d4ef4c-2040-49ae-9d01-e009190122af@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 21, 1:51 pm, PeterD <pet....TakeThisOut@hipson.net> wrote:
>>> PS 911 is what I use. And yea, it gets cold here!
>>
>> Well, I didn't say it didn't get cold in Dallas. It does. In fact,
>> it's pretty chilly today! It does not, however, get below 0 and stay
>> that way for days on end.
>>
>> Here, I can leave my truck in my garage on the colder days. Where I
>> am going skiing, it will be sitting outside for 3 days in sub zero
>> temps. That concerns me a bit. Now, I will have the block heater
>> plugged in, but the fuel obviously could become a problem.
>>
>>> I doubt the gear oil will be an issue, IMHO.
>>
>> Good. I hope not.
>>
>> I'll look for the PS 911.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Craig C.
>
> This is what I use in my Freightliner, should be able to find it at any
> large
> truck stop.
> Howes Diesel Treat
> Diesel Conditioner Plus Anti-Gel
> As Budd pointed out, if you fill your tank when you get into the colder
> country you should be ok, but I would put some additive in anyway. >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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Since: Oct 10, 2004 Posts: 716
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Budd Cochran wrote:
> If you figure on refueling at least once before you get to the ski area,
> more than 3/4 of a tank, the cold weather area fuels will already be
> winterized, so no additives needed, but if you don't need to refuel have an
> additive ordered in by your fuel supplier or a parts store.
I was told that at least on my new 2007 6.7L CTD I don't have to worry
about it much. It has a fuel pre-heater that prevents the problem.
Since this is my 1st diesel I admit I have little knowledge on the matter. >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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Since: Jan 08, 2006 Posts: 128
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:05 pm
Post subject: Re: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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When I used to go skiing in Canada for a week, I would open my hood each day
to let the sun warm it up around noon.
Start it up around 1, and let it run for a short while.
After a week, when I left the cold, it ran fine.
>> PS 911 is what I use. And yea, it gets cold here!
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> Well, I didn't say it didn't get cold in Dallas. It does. In fact,
> it's pretty chilly today! It does not, however, get below 0 and stay
> that way for days on end. >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 163
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:30 pm
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On Jan 21, 7:17 pm, "Mike Simmons" <mike....DeleteThis@yhti.net> wrote:
> Two good additives are Powers (usually available at Wal-Mart) and Standayne
> Performance Formula (usually available at truck stops). What are you
> putting that gear oil in BTW?
Because the manual says to. 75w-90 OR 75w-140 for heavy duty
applications.
Craig C. >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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Since: Nov 24, 2004 Posts: 259
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:17 pm
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"Craig C." <mcraigchr.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> I'm heading out Wednesday morning on a ski trip. This will be the
> first time I have taken my truck to such a cold place. Weather is
> supposed to dip and stay below 0F.
>
> I live in Dallas, so a broad selection of anti-gel additives are few
> and far between. Those of you that live or have lived in warmer
> climates like Dallas, what brand of additive do you recommend that I
> can get here?
>
> I plan to take an extension cord with me and plug it in at the condo.
> Other than that, is there anything else I should concern myself with.
> One thing that concerns me is the 75w-140 gear oil I put in it 6
> months ago ...
>
> TIA,
> Craig C.
> 2004 Ram 2500, QC, 4x4, CRD
Two good additives are Powers (usually available at Wal-Mart) and Standayne
Performance Formula (usually available at truck stops). What are you
putting that gear oil in BTW?
Mike >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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Since: Apr 22, 2007 Posts: 277
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:22 pm
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"miles" <nope.TakeThisOut@nopers.com> wrote in message
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> Budd Cochran wrote:
>> If you figure on refueling at least once before you get to the ski area,
>> more than 3/4 of a tank, the cold weather area fuels will already be
>> winterized, so no additives needed, but if you don't need to refuel have
>> an additive ordered in by your fuel supplier or a parts store.
>
> I was told that at least on my new 2007 6.7L CTD I don't have to worry
> about it much. It has a fuel pre-heater that prevents the problem. Since
> this is my 1st diesel I admit I have little knowledge on the matter.
Miles, the thing is that the fuel will gel in the tank and not get to the
pre-heater. >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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Since: Jan 16, 2008 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:22 pm
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"Roy" <Roy DeleteThis @Fhome.net> wrote in message
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> "miles" <nope DeleteThis @nopers.com> wrote in message
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>> Budd Cochran wrote:
>>> If you figure on refueling at least once before you get to the ski area,
>>> more than 3/4 of a tank, the cold weather area fuels will already be
>>> winterized, so no additives needed, but if you don't need to refuel have
>>> an additive ordered in by your fuel supplier or a parts store.
>>
>> I was told that at least on my new 2007 6.7L CTD I don't have to worry
>> about it much. It has a fuel pre-heater that prevents the problem. Since
>> this is my 1st diesel I admit I have little knowledge on the matter.
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> Miles, the thing is that the fuel will gel in the tank and not get to the
> pre-heater.
>
I agree.
I had that happen on a Navistar bobtail in 90 because the bosses didn't
listen to either me or the company's mechanic.
It shut down the mobile recycling program at the local handicapped training
facility for two weeks.
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Since: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 163
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:50 am
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On Jan 22, 8:05 am, "nunya" <nu... DeleteThis @nunya.net> wrote:
> don't worry about the oil.
Good.
> for fuel treatment use powerservice brand with
> cetane boost. it is available at any truck stop.
I will have to stop in Amarillo to fill up, I'll look for it there.
> try to use only fuel from a name brand source
Absolutely.
> i would make sure you have an extra filter and the tools to change it on the
> side of the road. if your filter freezes up you are stuck.
I have one filter I will be carrying with me and the tools to install
it.
Thanks for the advice.
Craig C. >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:05 am
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"Craig C." <mcraigchr.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> I'm heading out Wednesday morning on a ski trip. This will be the
> first time I have taken my truck to such a cold place. Weather is
> supposed to dip and stay below 0F.
<snip>
> TIA,
> Craig C.
don't worry about the oil. for fuel treatment use powerservice brand with
cetane boost. it is available at any truck stop. if you get good fuel this
shouldn't be an issue though. what you are doing is buying yourself
insurace against a bad tank of diesel. we got a bad tank just outside of
denver once and i had to change the fuel filter on the side of the road four
times on just one trip. while we paid for on road fuel the filter was
purple every time i changed it and looked like it had been drug through the
dirt.
try to use only fuel from a name brand source and buying at high volume
truck stops seems to reduce the chance of a bad load as opposed to the small
mom and pop stations. i drive to kolo"rad"o twice a year in the winter, new
hampshire at least once a year and even make the occasional trek across
wyoming and montanna. we have gotten two bad loads of fuel in a couple of
decades of doing our winter trips. so that is what you need to protect
yourself from.
i would make sure you have an extra filter and the tools to change it on the
side of the road. if your filter freezes up you are stuck.
michael >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:50 am
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On Jan 22, 9:57 am, "Roy" <R....RemoveThis@home.net> wrote:
> I may be wrong but isn't it a good idea to add something like Powers or the
> like anyway?
I do add something at every fill up. I can't remember the name of it,
but my mechanic got it for me. It adds back the lubricity lost in
ULSD among other things. It doesn't have any anti-gel properties to
speak of and I really don't need that living in Dallas. However,
driving to Wyoming changes the need a bit.
Craig C. >> Stay informed about: Anti-Gel Additive (Diesel) |
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