AWD CR-V tire thread tolerance

I did check the manual. I don't think it has anything on the thread depth
difference tolerance. However it does mention that different tire diameters
can have an adverse effect on the ABS as the ABS is constantly monitoring
the speed of each wheel. It comes short of saying the tolerance is 1/4" or
1".

LC

"CaptainKrunch" wrote in message

> What does your owner's manual state?
>
> CaptainKrunch
>
>
> "LC" wrote in message
>
> > My 2003 AWD CR-V EX had a flat on the front passenger side after 15,000
> > miles. I found there was quite a significant thread depth difference
> between
> > the new tire and the worn tires. The other AWD car, a Subaru, I used to
> own
> > had a very tight tolerance for tire diameter difference. What about the
> > CR-V? Can I use the spare with the other three worn tires?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >
>
>
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"LC" wrote in message

> I did check the manual. I don't think it has anything on the thread depth
> difference tolerance. However it does mention that different tire
diameters
> can have an adverse effect on the ABS as the ABS is constantly monitoring
> the speed of each wheel. It comes short of saying the tolerance is 1/4" or
> 1".
>
> LC
>
> "CaptainKrunch" wrote in message
>
> > What does your owner's manual state?
> >
> > CaptainKrunch
> >
> >
> > "LC" wrote in message
> >
> > > My 2003 AWD CR-V EX had a flat on the front passenger side after
15,000
> > > miles. I found there was quite a significant thread depth difference
> > between
> > > the new tire and the worn tires. The other AWD car, a Subaru, I used
to
> > own
> > > had a very tight tolerance for tire diameter difference. What about
the
> > > CR-V? Can I use the spare with the other three worn tires?
> > >
> > > TIA
You say there was a significant difference in tread depth. What was the
measurement on both the new and old tire?

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!> > >
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LC wrote:
>
> My 2003 AWD CR-V EX had a flat on the front passenger side after 15,000
> miles. I found there was quite a significant thread depth difference between
> the new tire and the worn tires. The other AWD car, a Subaru, I used to own
> had a very tight tolerance for tire diameter difference. What about the
> CR-V? Can I use the spare with the other three worn tires?
>
> TIA

=====================

LC,


The manual doesn't really push it, but CRV, Pilot, and Element should
use a five-tire rotation to avoid the mess you're in now. I'd just put a
few pounds less in the new tire, and run the old tires at the higher end
of the inflation range. Like 29, 32, 32, 32.

I'd also be more concerned about the load on the rear differential than
the ABS getting fooled... ABS isn't that sensitive unless you're mixing
a completely different tire in the mix.

'Curly'
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3/16" to 1/4". I've put the new tire on the front passenger side. So far I'm
driving very cautiously and can't tell any difference in handling.


"Dave Dodson" wrote in message

>
>
> "LC" wrote in message
>
> > I did check the manual. I don't think it has anything on the thread
depth
> > difference tolerance. However it does mention that different tire
> diameters
> > can have an adverse effect on the ABS as the ABS is constantly
monitoring
> > the speed of each wheel. It comes short of saying the tolerance is 1/4"
or
> > 1".
> >
> > LC
> >
> > "CaptainKrunch" wrote in message
> >
> > > What does your owner's manual state?
> > >
> > > CaptainKrunch
> > >
> > >
> > > "LC" wrote in message
> > >
> > > > My 2003 AWD CR-V EX had a flat on the front passenger side after
> 15,000
> > > > miles. I found there was quite a significant thread depth difference
> > > between
> > > > the new tire and the worn tires. The other AWD car, a Subaru, I used
> to
> > > own
> > > > had a very tight tolerance for tire diameter difference. What about
> the
> > > > CR-V? Can I use the spare with the other three worn tires?
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> You say there was a significant difference in tread depth. What was the
> measurement on both the new and old tire?
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!> > >
>
>
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Since I've put the new tire on the font passenger side, the rear diff
shouldn't be affected, should it? BTW, is there a front diff?


"'Curly Q. Links'" wrote in message

> LC wrote:
> >
> > My 2003 AWD CR-V EX had a flat on the front passenger side after 15,000
> > miles. I found there was quite a significant thread depth difference
between
> > the new tire and the worn tires. The other AWD car, a Subaru, I used to
own
> > had a very tight tolerance for tire diameter difference. What about the
> > CR-V? Can I use the spare with the other three worn tires?
> >
> > TIA
>
> =====================
>
> LC,
>
>
> The manual doesn't really push it, but CRV, Pilot, and Element should
> use a five-tire rotation to avoid the mess you're in now. I'd just put a
> few pounds less in the new tire, and run the old tires at the higher end
> of the inflation range. Like 29, 32, 32, 32.
>
> I'd also be more concerned about the load on the rear differential than
> the ABS getting fooled... ABS isn't that sensitive unless you're mixing
> a completely different tire in the mix.
>
> 'Curly'
> ==================
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LC wrote:
>
> Since I've put the new tire on the font passenger side, the rear diff
> shouldn't be affected, should it? BTW, is there a front diff?
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" wrote in message
>
> > LC wrote:
> > >
> > > My 2003 AWD CR-V EX had a flat on the front passenger side after 15,000
> > > miles. I found there was quite a significant thread depth difference
> between
> > > the new tire and the worn tires. The other AWD car, a Subaru, I used to
> own
> > > had a very tight tolerance for tire diameter difference. What about the
> > > CR-V? Can I use the spare with the other three worn tires?
> > >
> > > TIA
> >
> > =====================
> >
> > LC,
> >
> >
> > The manual doesn't really push it, but CRV, Pilot, and Element should
> > use a five-tire rotation to avoid the mess you're in now. I'd just put a
> > few pounds less in the new tire, and run the old tires at the higher end
> > of the inflation range. Like this: 29, 32, 32, 32.
> >
> > I'd also be more concerned about the load on the rear differential than
> > the ABS getting fooled... ABS isn't that sensitive unless you're mixing
> > a completely different sized tire in the mix.
> >
> > 'Curly'
> > ==================

==============
LC,

Don't lose any sleep over it, but that's a good question. Yes, the front
differential is inside the same box as the tranny, so to prevent
long-term wear-and-tear, you could underinflate that new tire by 3-4 lb
compared to the driver's side tire, like I mentioned above. Handling
wouldn't suffer at all unless you have too big a spread, then you'll
feel some pull to one side.

Make sure you own a good tire guage that goes to like 60 lb, not 150 lb.

We just spent $180 (but it was only Canadian) to buy one of those
STINKIN Dueller OEM Bridgestone tires because the previous owner of our
CRV didn't include the SPARE in any of the (many) tire rotations.


'Curly'

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"LC" wrote in message

> 3/16" to 1/4". I've put the new tire on the front passenger side. So far
I'm
> driving very cautiously and can't tell any difference in handling.
>
///snipped for brevity///
> "Dave Dodson" wrote in message
>
> > You say there was a significant difference in tread depth. What was the
> > measurement on both the new and old tire?
> >
> > Dave D
> > --
> > Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!> > >

Tire tread depth (in the U.S.) is measured in */32. I don't know why but it
is. So from your measurements your tread depths are 3/16 or 6/32 and 1/4 or
8/32 for a difference of 2/32. This difference is really insignificant and
neither you nor the vehicle should notice any difference in handling,
steering, braking, or driveability....

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> >
> >
>
>
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Thanks for the advice.

"'Curly Q. Links'" wrote in message

> LC wrote:
> >
> > Since I've put the new tire on the font passenger side, the rear diff
> > shouldn't be affected, should it? BTW, is there a front diff?
> >
> > "'Curly Q. Links'" wrote in message
> >
> > > LC wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My 2003 AWD CR-V EX had a flat on the front passenger side after
15,000
> > > > miles. I found there was quite a significant thread depth difference
> > between
> > > > the new tire and the worn tires. The other AWD car, a Subaru, I used
to
> > own
> > > > had a very tight tolerance for tire diameter difference. What about
the
> > > > CR-V? Can I use the spare with the other three worn tires?
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > >
> > > =====================
> > >
> > > LC,
> > >
> > >
> > > The manual doesn't really push it, but CRV, Pilot, and Element should
> > > use a five-tire rotation to avoid the mess you're in now. I'd just put
a
> > > few pounds less in the new tire, and run the old tires at the higher
end
> > > of the inflation range. Like this: 29, 32, 32, 32.
> > >
> > > I'd also be more concerned about the load on the rear differential
than
> > > the ABS getting fooled... ABS isn't that sensitive unless you're
mixing
> > > a completely different sized tire in the mix.
> > >
> > > 'Curly'
> > > ==================
>
> ==============
> LC,
>
> Don't lose any sleep over it, but that's a good question. Yes, the front
> differential is inside the same box as the tranny, so to prevent
> long-term wear-and-tear, you could underinflate that new tire by 3-4 lb
> compared to the driver's side tire, like I mentioned above. Handling
> wouldn't suffer at all unless you have too big a spread, then you'll
> feel some pull to one side.
>
> Make sure you own a good tire guage that goes to like 60 lb, not 150 lb.
>
> We just spent $180 (but it was only Canadian) to buy one of those
> STINKIN Dueller OEM Bridgestone tires because the previous owner of our
> CRV didn't include the SPARE in any of the (many) tire rotations.
>
>
> 'Curly'
>
> --
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I didn't say it clear. I didn't mean the tire thread depths were between
3/16" to 1/4". I mean the different itself is from 3/16" to 1/4". Or in
order to avoid the confusion, let's say the difference is 1/4".




"Dave Dodson" wrote in message

>
>
> "LC" wrote in message
>
> > 3/16" to 1/4". I've put the new tire on the front passenger side. So far
> I'm
> > driving very cautiously and can't tell any difference in handling.
> >
> ///snipped for brevity///
> > "Dave Dodson" wrote in message
> >
> > > You say there was a significant difference in tread depth. What was
the
> > > measurement on both the new and old tire?
> > >
> > > Dave D
> > > --
> > > Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!> > >
>
> Tire tread depth (in the U.S.) is measured in */32. I don't know why but
it
> is. So from your measurements your tread depths are 3/16 or 6/32 and 1/4
or
> 8/32 for a difference of 2/32. This difference is really insignificant and
> neither you nor the vehicle should notice any difference in handling,
> steering, braking, or driveability....
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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"LC" wrote in message

> I didn't say it clear. I didn't mean the tire thread depths were between
> 3/16" to 1/4". I mean the different itself is from 3/16" to 1/4". Or in
> order to avoid the confusion, let's say the difference is 1/4".

Ok LC, the difference in tread depth ranges between 6/32 and 8/32 (3/16 and
1/4). That is significant. Many "P" rated (passenger) tires only have a
tread depth of 12/23-13/32 when the are new. What you have is over half the
tread is gone. Tread life is cut off at 2/32". Federal standards say that
this is the minimum safe tread depth. If you look at a tire with 2/32 you
will see, basically, lines on the tire. In my opinion, 4/32 is just about as
far as I would let them go. So your question is what to do and what might be
the results from this situation? You still have about 15k or so left on the
other tires but you could buy three new tires and save the best of the three
old ones to use as a spare. You could put the new tire on the right rear (I
don't recall if your vehicle is AWD or not). If it is FWD, put it on the
right rear. If it is AWD, the difference in tire diameter will put stress on
the differentials (btwn two tires on same axle and btwn front and rear
axles). If I were still in the tire business, I would recommend three new
tires and save the best of the old for a spare.

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
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Thanks for the advice.

"Dave Dodson" wrote in message

>
>
> "LC" wrote in message
>
> > I didn't say it clear. I didn't mean the tire thread depths were between
> > 3/16" to 1/4". I mean the different itself is from 3/16" to 1/4". Or in
> > order to avoid the confusion, let's say the difference is 1/4".
>
> Ok LC, the difference in tread depth ranges between 6/32 and 8/32 (3/16
and
> 1/4). That is significant. Many "P" rated (passenger) tires only have a
> tread depth of 12/23-13/32 when the are new. What you have is over half
the
> tread is gone. Tread life is cut off at 2/32". Federal standards say that
> this is the minimum safe tread depth. If you look at a tire with 2/32 you
> will see, basically, lines on the tire. In my opinion, 4/32 is just about
as
> far as I would let them go. So your question is what to do and what might
be
> the results from this situation? You still have about 15k or so left on
the
> other tires but you could buy three new tires and save the best of the
three
> old ones to use as a spare. You could put the new tire on the right rear
(I
> don't recall if your vehicle is AWD or not). If it is FWD, put it on the
> right rear. If it is AWD, the difference in tire diameter will put stress
on
> the differentials (btwn two tires on same axle and btwn front and rear
> axles). If I were still in the tire business, I would recommend three new
> tires and save the best of the old for a spare.
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
>
>
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