ATF Flush at 26K ?

"motsco_"
> Don't use the word FLUSH when describing a Honda or Acura. You NEVER
> 'power flush' that kind of tranny.
>
> Take the OEM fluid to your mechanic (or Monkey-Lube) and have them drain
> and refill. I'd do it again a week later also, since you can never change
> ALL the fluid. I actually do it THREE times on any used car I buy, but
> yours is fairly new.
>
> 'Curly'

Really ?
not supposed to flush the tranny with one of those fancy power-flush
equiptment I read about
?
why ?
 >> Stay informed about: ATF Flush at 26K ? 

firewolf wrote:
> "motsco_"
>> Don't use the word FLUSH when describing a Honda or Acura. You NEVER
>> 'power flush' that kind of tranny.
>>
>> Take the OEM fluid to your mechanic (or Monkey-Lube) and have them drain
>> and refill. I'd do it again a week later also, since you can never change
>> ALL the fluid. I actually do it THREE times on any used car I buy, but
>> yours is fairly new.
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
> Really ?
> not supposed to flush the tranny with one of those fancy power-flush
> equiptment I read about
> ?
> why ?

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Murphy's Law states that they have an 80% chance of hooking it up
BACKWARDS, which would back-flush the contents of the internal filter
throughout the whole tranny

'Curly'
 >> Stay informed about: ATF Flush at 26K ? 

firewolf wrote:
> 04 TSX AT @ 26K
>
> The car is overdue for 25K (or 20K ?) service
> Should I do a full ATF flush/change ?
> And can any ordinary, non-dealership shop do this ? (meaning do they has the
> proper equiptments)
> How much does it cost on average ?
>
> thanks
>
>

The Honda owners and service manual specifically say to use multiple
drain-fill-drive cycles to do a complete transmission fluid change.
Four times over, in fact. Also it is important to use the right fluid,
which unfortunately is only sold by Honda/Acura dealers, ATF-Z1. The
Honda method is quite easy to do, if time consuming. Shops love the
flush machines because they are fast, but I suspect Honda has some good
reason for not wanting the machine used.

I do this change out cycle once every 30k miles on our Honda/Acuras.

John
 >> Stay informed about: ATF Flush at 26K ? 

Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
supposed to be done?

Other than a $$$ motive that is.
--
Ron A. Marraccini
"John Horner" <jthorner.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> firewolf wrote:
>> 04 TSX AT @ 26K
>>
>> The car is overdue for 25K (or 20K ?) service
>> Should I do a full ATF flush/change ?
>> And can any ordinary, non-dealership shop do this ? (meaning do they has
>> the proper equiptments)
>> How much does it cost on average ?
>>
>> thanks
>
> The Honda owners and service manual specifically say to use multiple
> drain-fill-drive cycles to do a complete transmission fluid change. Four
> times over, in fact. Also it is important to use the right fluid, which
> unfortunately is only sold by Honda/Acura dealers, ATF-Z1. The Honda
> method is quite easy to do, if time consuming. Shops love the flush
> machines because they are fast, but I suspect Honda has some good reason
> for not wanting the machine used.
>
> I do this change out cycle once every 30k miles on our Honda/Acuras.
>
> John
 >> Stay informed about: ATF Flush at 26K ? 

On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:36:58 -0700, "Ron Marraccini"
<ronm.DeleteThis@ramlegal.com> wrote:

>Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
>would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
>supposed to be done?
>
>Other than a $$$ motive that is.

What other motive does he need?
 >> Stay informed about: ATF Flush at 26K ? 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:36:58 -0700, "Ron Marraccini"
> <ronm.DeleteThis@ramlegal.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
>> would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
>> supposed to be done?
>>
>> Other than a $$$ motive that is.
>
> What other motive does he need?

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If there's another motive out there, I'd like to hear it too!

'Curly'
 >> Stay informed about: ATF Flush at 26K ? 

Wouldn't they be liable for any damage caused?


--
Ron A. Marraccini
"motsco_" <motsco_ RemoveThis @interbaun.com> wrote in message
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> Gordon McGrew wrote:
>> On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:36:58 -0700, "Ron Marraccini"
>> <ronm RemoveThis @ramlegal.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
>>> would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
>>> supposed to be done?
>>>
>>> Other than a $$$ motive that is.
>>
>> What other motive does he need?
>
> -----------------------------
>
> If there's another motive out there, I'd like to hear it too!
>
> 'Curly'
 >> Stay informed about: ATF Flush at 26K ? 

Ron Marraccini wrote:
> Wouldn't they be liable for any damage caused?
>
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Read page four of this Honda bulletin:

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/a060200.PDF


'Curly'
 >> Stay informed about: ATF Flush at 26K ? 

Ron Marraccini wrote:
> Is there some reason why my Acura dealer here in PDX
> would recommend a $150.00 flush when it's not
> supposed to be done?
>
> Other than a $$$ motive that is.

I doubt it! Those machines are big money makers.
 >> Stay informed about: ATF Flush at 26K ? 

Hi,

I see that this article applies to "aftermarket" flushing.

My Acura dealer gave me two options;

1) Drain & refill Transmission- $50.00 (don't know if it's 1-2-3 times or
what?)
2) Transmission flush - $150.00 (recommended by them)

The transmission was already replaced once @ 28,000 via warrantee.

I am in a quandary as to what course to follow as I don't want the tranny
screwed up.

Thanks.


--
Ron A. Marraccini

"motsco_" <motsco_.RemoveThis@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:131iasna9iv2a1d@corp.supernews.com...
> Ron Marraccini wrote:
>> Wouldn't they be liable for any damage caused?
>>
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Read page four of this Honda bulletin:
>
> http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SN/a060200.PDF
>
>
> 'Curly'
 >> Stay informed about: ATF Flush at 26K ? 

Ron Marraccini wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I see that this article applies to "aftermarket" flushing.
>
> My Acura dealer gave me two options;
>
> 1) Drain & refill Transmission- $50.00 (don't know if it's 1-2-3 times or
> what?)
> 2) Transmission flush - $150.00 (recommended by them)
>
> The transmission was already replaced once @ 28,000 via warrantee.
>
> I am in a quandary as to what course to follow as I don't want the tranny
> screwed up.
>
> Thanks.
>
>

I would call Acura customer care and talk to them about your dealer.
Alternatively, find a Honda or Acura dealer who will do the job by the
book. All flushing is aftermarket flushing since Acura doesn't approve
of or supply such equipment. Just because a dealer does the job doesn't
mean they are using Acura approved methods or materials.

John
 >> Stay informed about: ATF Flush at 26K ?