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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:15 am
Post subject: A2 heater core - why such a big job if you have A/C?
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Hello all,
Yesterday I found myself showering in a fine mist of boiled coolant, and
today there's a puddle in the footwells. The Bentley manual describes a
long but not mind-bending process for removing the dashboard and heater box,
and swapping out the heater core for cars without A/C. For cars with A/C,
they just say that you have to discharge the system and call your authorized
VW repairperson. The dealer quotes 2-3 hours labour for a heater core if
you don't have A/C, and 7 hours if you do.
My A/C doesn't work and never will. If I dove in there and tried to do it
myself, what horrors will I encounter that are peculiar to air conditioned
cars? The refrigerant circuit is completely separate from the coolant
circuit, right? And the cores are the same for all cars. What on earth
takes the pros an extra four hours?
Thanks
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:37 pm
Post subject: Re: A2 heater core - why such a big job if you have A/C? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Iyou were in the USA you wouldn't pay a red cent fo have VW fix it, for free
since there have been lawsuits (and recalls) from people getting boiled py
spewing hot coolant! I'll show you an easier way.
"Theo" <grideout.DeleteThis@engr.mun.ca> wrote in message
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> Hello all,
>
> Yesterday I found myself showering in a fine mist of boiled coolant, and
> today there's a puddle in the footwells. The Bentley manual describes a
> long but not mind-bending process for removing the dashboard and heater
> box, and swapping out the heater core for cars without A/C. For cars with
> A/C, they just say that you have to discharge the system and call your
> authorized VW repairperson. The dealer quotes 2-3 hours labour for a
> heater core if you don't have A/C, and 7 hours if you do.
>
> My A/C doesn't work and never will. If I dove in there and tried to do it
> myself, what horrors will I encounter that are peculiar to air conditioned
> cars? The refrigerant circuit is completely separate from the coolant
> circuit, right? And the cores are the same for all cars. What on earth
> takes the pros an extra four hours?
>
> Thanks
> Theo
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:40 am
Post subject: Re: A2 heater core recall [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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The dealer here is optimistic that VW will honour the recall, which was
North America-wide. The previous owner received a re-notification in 1999,
so VW was keen to honour it 10 years after the car was born. I presume the
fact that the heater core is ruptured will not affect their decision. Even
if it wore out after 17 years and the end cap did not rupture, it seems to
me that every car in the recall period was entitled to a new core. If the
previous guy replaced it in 1999 when VW was willing to do it, then mine
wouldn't have failed now. Either way, VW has to ante up a core for the car
with my VIN.
Theo
"Regal53" <ramon_galvis.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Iyou were in the USA you wouldn't pay a red cent fo have VW fix it, for
> free since there have been lawsuits (and recalls) from people getting
> boiled py spewing hot coolant! I'll show you an easier way.
> "Theo" <grideout.TakeThisOut@engr.mun.ca> wrote in message
> news:e61ch1$9vm$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Yesterday I found myself showering in a fine mist of boiled coolant, and
>> today there's a puddle in the footwells. The Bentley manual describes a
>> long but not mind-bending process for removing the dashboard and heater
>> box, and swapping out the heater core for cars without A/C. For cars
>> with A/C, they just say that you have to discharge the system and call
>> your authorized VW repairperson. The dealer quotes 2-3 hours labour for
>> a heater core if you don't have A/C, and 7 hours if you do.
>>
>> My A/C doesn't work and never will. If I dove in there and tried to do
>> it myself, what horrors will I encounter that are peculiar to air
>> conditioned cars? The refrigerant circuit is completely separate from
>> the coolant circuit, right? And the cores are the same for all cars.
>> What on earth takes the pros an extra four hours?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Theo
>>
>
> >> Stay informed about: A2 heater core - why such a big job if you have A/C? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:21 pm
Post subject: Re: A2 heater core - why such a big job if you have A/C? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Regal53" <ramon_galvis.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote
> Iyou were in the USA you wouldn't pay a red cent fo have VW fix it, for
> free since there have been lawsuits (and recalls) from people getting
> boiled py spewing hot coolant! I'll show you an easier way.
They would not fix my 88 VW Golf GL. VOA asked for my VIN number and refused
to fix it and refused to give me a replacement to fix it myself.
I bought one off Ebay for about 30 bucks. I found a post out of many in
these archives that did the trick and made it an easy job. (I looked in my
hard drive for the post txt - can't find it) but the key inclusion in the
post was to put your two feet up and pull the heater box out. I wish I could
find this one post in the archives but it only took a few hours or so and
went flawless for the first time doing it. All the other archive posts have
conflicting information. The Golf did have A/C.
Harry >> Stay informed about: A2 heater core - why such a big job if you have A/C? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:38 pm
Post subject: Re: A2 heater core recall [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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The good news is VW heater cores are very consistent. The one in my 95
Passat failed at 9 years/100K miles, and VWOA covered all parts and labor.
Owners of Passats as recent as 2000-2002 are now reporting heater core
failures, some as low as at 60k miles.
You say "heater core failure" to VW and they understand what you are talking
about...
"Theo" <grideout.RemoveThis@engr.mun.ca> wrote in message
news:e66mpn$rf8$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
> The dealer here is optimistic that VW will honour the recall, which was
> North America-wide. The previous owner received a re-notification in
> 1999, so VW was keen to honour it 10 years after the car was born. I
> presume the fact that the heater core is ruptured will not affect their
> decision. Even if it wore out after 17 years and the end cap did not
> rupture, it seems to me that every car in the recall period was entitled
> to a new core. If the previous guy replaced it in 1999 when VW was
> willing to do it, then mine wouldn't have failed now. Either way, VW has
> to ante up a core for the car with my VIN.
>
> Theo
>
> "Regal53" <ramon_galvis.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:IR_gg.12366$EX2.7516@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> Iyou were in the USA you wouldn't pay a red cent fo have VW fix it, for
>> free since there have been lawsuits (and recalls) from people getting
>> boiled py spewing hot coolant! I'll show you an easier way.
>> "Theo" <grideout.RemoveThis@engr.mun.ca> wrote in message
>> news:e61ch1$9vm$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Yesterday I found myself showering in a fine mist of boiled coolant, and
>>> today there's a puddle in the footwells. The Bentley manual describes a
>>> long but not mind-bending process for removing the dashboard and heater
>>> box, and swapping out the heater core for cars without A/C. For cars
>>> with A/C, they just say that you have to discharge the system and call
>>> your authorized VW repairperson. The dealer quotes 2-3 hours labour for
>>> a heater core if you don't have A/C, and 7 hours if you do.
>>>
>>> My A/C doesn't work and never will. If I dove in there and tried to do
>>> it myself, what horrors will I encounter that are peculiar to air
>>> conditioned cars? The refrigerant circuit is completely separate from
>>> the coolant circuit, right? And the cores are the same for all cars.
>>> What on earth takes the pros an extra four hours?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Theo
>>>
>>
>>
>
> >> Stay informed about: A2 heater core - why such a big job if you have A/C? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:40 pm
Post subject: Re: A2 heater core recall [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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The good news is VW heater cores are very consistent. The one in my 95
Passat failed at 9 years/100K miles, and VWOA covered all parts and labor.
Owners of Passats as recent as 2000-2002 are now reporting heater core
failures, some as low as at 60k miles.
You say "heater core failure" to VW and they understand what you are talking
about...
"Theo" <grideout.DeleteThis@engr.mun.ca> wrote in message
news:e66mpn$rf8$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
> The dealer here is optimistic that VW will honour the recall, which was
> North America-wide. The previous owner received a re-notification in
> 1999, so VW was keen to honour it 10 years after the car was born. I
> presume the fact that the heater core is ruptured will not affect their
> decision. Even if it wore out after 17 years and the end cap did not
> rupture, it seems to me that every car in the recall period was entitled
> to a new core. If the previous guy replaced it in 1999 when VW was
> willing to do it, then mine wouldn't have failed now. Either way, VW has
> to ante up a core for the car with my VIN.
>
> Theo
>
> "Regal53" <ramon_galvis.DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:IR_gg.12366$EX2.7516@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> Iyou were in the USA you wouldn't pay a red cent fo have VW fix it, for
>> free since there have been lawsuits (and recalls) from people getting
>> boiled py spewing hot coolant! I'll show you an easier way.
>> "Theo" <grideout.DeleteThis@engr.mun.ca> wrote in message
>> news:e61ch1$9vm$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Yesterday I found myself showering in a fine mist of boiled coolant, and
>>> today there's a puddle in the footwells. The Bentley manual describes a
>>> long but not mind-bending process for removing the dashboard and heater
>>> box, and swapping out the heater core for cars without A/C. For cars
>>> with A/C, they just say that you have to discharge the system and call
>>> your authorized VW repairperson. The dealer quotes 2-3 hours labour for
>>> a heater core if you don't have A/C, and 7 hours if you do.
>>>
>>> My A/C doesn't work and never will. If I dove in there and tried to do
>>> it myself, what horrors will I encounter that are peculiar to air
>>> conditioned cars? The refrigerant circuit is completely separate from
>>> the coolant circuit, right? And the cores are the same for all cars.
>>> What on earth takes the pros an extra four hours?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Theo
>>>
>>
>>
>
> >> Stay informed about: A2 heater core - why such a big job if you have A/C? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:35 pm
Post subject: Re: A2 heater core recall [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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recalls never expire!
"Theo" <grideout RemoveThis @engr.mun.ca> wrote in message
news:e66mpn$rf8$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
> The dealer here is optimistic that VW will honour the recall, which was
> North America-wide. The previous owner received a re-notification in
> 1999, so VW was keen to honour it 10 years after the car was born. I
> presume the fact that the heater core is ruptured will not affect their
> decision. Even if it wore out after 17 years and the end cap did not
> rupture, it seems to me that every car in the recall period was entitled
> to a new core. If the previous guy replaced it in 1999 when VW was
> willing to do it, then mine wouldn't have failed now. Either way, VW has
> to ante up a core for the car with my VIN.
>
> Theo
>
> "Regal53" <ramon_galvis RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:IR_gg.12366$EX2.7516@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>> Iyou were in the USA you wouldn't pay a red cent fo have VW fix it, for
>> free since there have been lawsuits (and recalls) from people getting
>> boiled py spewing hot coolant! I'll show you an easier way.
>> "Theo" <grideout RemoveThis @engr.mun.ca> wrote in message
>> news:e61ch1$9vm$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Yesterday I found myself showering in a fine mist of boiled coolant, and
>>> today there's a puddle in the footwells. The Bentley manual describes a
>>> long but not mind-bending process for removing the dashboard and heater
>>> box, and swapping out the heater core for cars without A/C. For cars
>>> with A/C, they just say that you have to discharge the system and call
>>> your authorized VW repairperson. The dealer quotes 2-3 hours labour for
>>> a heater core if you don't have A/C, and 7 hours if you do.
>>>
>>> My A/C doesn't work and never will. If I dove in there and tried to do
>>> it myself, what horrors will I encounter that are peculiar to air
>>> conditioned cars? The refrigerant circuit is completely separate from
>>> the coolant circuit, right? And the cores are the same for all cars.
>>> What on earth takes the pros an extra four hours?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Theo
>>>
>>
>>
>
> >> Stay informed about: A2 heater core - why such a big job if you have A/C? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:36 am
Post subject: Re: A2 heater core - why such a big job if you have A/C? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Yes same like me have 88 Fox and it blew its heater core I bypassed it but
short time ago I got recal notice for fixing the heaterproblems .I received
these messages over the last couple of years have to get in and have it
fixed but I don't trust those dealers the car is a clunker and I ame afraid
they wil take shortcuts an dI know my car.
but use the recal system if I where you especialy the hours it takes to fix
it. moony
"Regal53" <ramon_galvis.RemoveThis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Iyou were in the USA you wouldn't pay a red cent fo have VW fix it, for
> free since there have been lawsuits (and recalls) from people getting
> boiled py spewing hot coolant! I'll show you an easier way.
> "Theo" <grideout.RemoveThis@engr.mun.ca> wrote in message
> news:e61ch1$9vm$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Yesterday I found myself showering in a fine mist of boiled coolant, and
>> today there's a puddle in the footwells. The Bentley manual describes a
>> long but not mind-bending process for removing the dashboard and heater
>> box, and swapping out the heater core for cars without A/C. For cars
>> with A/C, they just say that you have to discharge the system and call
>> your authorized VW repairperson. The dealer quotes 2-3 hours labour for
>> a heater core if you don't have A/C, and 7 hours if you do.
>>
>> My A/C doesn't work and never will. If I dove in there and tried to do
>> it myself, what horrors will I encounter that are peculiar to air
>> conditioned cars? The refrigerant circuit is completely separate from
>> the coolant circuit, right? And the cores are the same for all cars.
>> What on earth takes the pros an extra four hours?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Theo
>>
>
> >> Stay informed about: A2 heater core - why such a big job if you have A/C? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 8:49 am
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Check this out:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?cmd=print&id=1649002
"Harry 1" <privateemail DeleteThis @private.org> wrote in message
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> "Regal53" <ramon_galvis DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote
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>> Iyou were in the USA you wouldn't pay a red cent fo have VW fix it, for
>> free since there have been lawsuits (and recalls) from people getting
>> boiled py spewing hot coolant! I'll show you an easier way.
>
> They would not fix my 88 VW Golf GL. VOA asked for my VIN number and
> refused to fix it and refused to give me a replacement to fix it myself.
>
> I bought one off Ebay for about 30 bucks. I found a post out of many in
> these archives that did the trick and made it an easy job. (I looked in my
> hard drive for the post txt - can't find it) but the key inclusion in the
> post was to put your two feet up and pull the heater box out. I wish I
> could find this one post in the archives but it only took a few hours or
> so and went flawless for the first time doing it. All the other archive
> posts have conflicting information. The Golf did have A/C.
>
> Harry
>
> >> Stay informed about: A2 heater core - why such a big job if you have A/C? |
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