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TJ

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:51 pm
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question on my 99 Intrepid 2.7 ltr


The car started over heating today. Assumed the water pump is out. I
realized
the fans werent running. Popped the fuse cover and the high speed and the
low speed fuses were burned out. I took another 30AMP and put it in the low
side. It pulled the whole engine down, way down...after a minute it blew the
fuse again. What could be causing this??? These arent belt run so why rould
it pull the engine down like that? Would a bad electric motor do that? I did
have time to see the passenger side fan WAS running till it blew the fuse. I
didnt see if the driver side was running if its even supposed too.

Any advice? Seems like i just replaced a fan motor a couple years ago
because the shaft was loose and made the fan rub the shroud.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:55 pm
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"TJ" <tjwolf12.RemoveThis@charter.net> wrote in message
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> question on my 99 Intrepid 2.7 ltr
>
>
> The car started over heating today. Assumed the water pump is out. I
> realized
> the fans werent running. Popped the fuse cover and the high speed and the
> low speed fuses were burned out. I took another 30AMP and put it in the
low
> side. It pulled the whole engine down, way down...after a minute it blew
the
> fuse again. What could be causing this??? These arent belt run so why
rould
> it pull the engine down like that? Would a bad electric motor do that? I
did
> have time to see the passenger side fan WAS running till it blew the fuse.
I
> didnt see if the driver side was running if its even supposed too.
>
> Any advice? Seems like i just replaced a fan motor a couple years ago
> because the shaft was loose and made the fan rub the shroud.
>
>
The Generator can pull the enigne down under an extreme load, such as what
you experienced with the cartridge fuse blowing, One of your fans or the A/c
compressor is causing the problem, Have tried to spin the fan on the other
side to see if it is locked up? (do this with the key off) If so try to
disconect the A/C compressor to see if thats the problem.
If I had to guess,I would say one of the fan motors are locked up

Glenn Beasley
Chrysler Tech

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:57 pm
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Yes! you are a genious Mr Beasley.


I didnt tell you the whole truth i guess. We are having trouble with the AC
compressor. Its been a constant problem for a year and now it doesnt wantot
charge at all( today!) So i would say you are right on the money. I
disconnected the AC relay and now I havent blown a fuse for the last two
hours Ive been tinkering around with it. i guess the compressor finally went
out.
My wife is taking it to work tomorrow so we will see.
The passenger side fan is running but I have yet to see the drivers side
come on.....hmmmm? i will test it tomorrow for resistance by spinning it by
hand. im not sure when it should kick on. The same time? My temp gauge never
goes past 1/2 so maybe its just not hot enough? Well Im in Dallas so
tomorrow we will see.
Ill let you know what happens. Thanks again...

Now about that AC compressor..................


"maxpower" <damnnickname.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "TJ" <tjwolf12.RemoveThis@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:f8xJe.4171$Mq4.3880@fe05.lga...
>> question on my 99 Intrepid 2.7 ltr
>>
>>
>> The car started over heating today. Assumed the water pump is out. I
>> realized
>> the fans werent running. Popped the fuse cover and the high speed and the
>> low speed fuses were burned out. I took another 30AMP and put it in the
> low
>> side. It pulled the whole engine down, way down...after a minute it blew
> the
>> fuse again. What could be causing this??? These arent belt run so why
> rould
>> it pull the engine down like that? Would a bad electric motor do that? I
> did
>> have time to see the passenger side fan WAS running till it blew the
>> fuse.
> I
>> didnt see if the driver side was running if its even supposed too.
>>
>> Any advice? Seems like i just replaced a fan motor a couple years ago
>> because the shaft was loose and made the fan rub the shroud.
>>
>>
> The Generator can pull the enigne down under an extreme load, such as what
> you experienced with the cartridge fuse blowing, One of your fans or the
> A/c
> compressor is causing the problem, Have tried to spin the fan on the other
> side to see if it is locked up? (do this with the key off) If so try to
> disconect the A/C compressor to see if thats the problem.
> If I had to guess,I would say one of the fan motors are locked up
>
> Glenn Beasley
> Chrysler Tech
>
>
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Mark R

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:19 pm
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"maxpower" <damnnickname.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b9KdnRKFcLvxBGrfRVn-og@comcast.com...
>
> "TJ" <tjwolf12.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:i_yJe.721$uo2.418@fe06.lga...
> > Yes! you are a genious Mr Beasley.
> >
> >
> > I didnt tell you the whole truth i guess. We are having trouble with the
> AC
> > compressor. Its been a constant problem for a year and now it doesnt
> wantot
> > charge at all( today!) So i would say you are right on the money. I
> > disconnected the AC relay and now I havent blown a fuse for the last two
> > hours Ive been tinkering around with it. i guess the compressor finally
> went
> > out.
> > My wife is taking it to work tomorrow so we will see.
> > The passenger side fan is running but I have yet to see the drivers side
> > come on.....hmmmm? i will test it tomorrow for resistance by spinning it
> by
> > hand. im not sure when it should kick on. The same time? My temp gauge
> never
> > goes past 1/2 so maybe its just not hot enough? Well Im in Dallas so
> > tomorrow we will see.
> > Ill let you know what happens. Thanks again...
> >
> > Now about that AC compressor..................
> >
> >
> > "maxpower" <damnnickname.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:DJidneeLZYspPWvfRVn-qw@comcast.com...
> > >
> > > "TJ" <tjwolf12.TakeThisOut@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > news:f8xJe.4171$Mq4.3880@fe05.lga...
> > >> question on my 99 Intrepid 2.7 ltr
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The car started over heating today. Assumed the water pump is out. I
> > >> realized
> > >> the fans werent running. Popped the fuse cover and the high speed and
> the
> > >> low speed fuses were burned out. I took another 30AMP and put it in
the
> > > low
> > >> side. It pulled the whole engine down, way down...after a minute it
> blew
> > > the
> > >> fuse again. What could be causing this??? These arent belt run so
why
> > > rould
> > >> it pull the engine down like that? Would a bad electric motor do
that?
> I
> > > did
> > >> have time to see the passenger side fan WAS running till it blew the
> > >> fuse.
> > > I
> > >> didnt see if the driver side was running if its even supposed too.
> > >>
> > >> Any advice? Seems like i just replaced a fan motor a couple years ago
> > >> because the shaft was loose and made the fan rub the shroud.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > The Generator can pull the enigne down under an extreme load, such as
> what
> > > you experienced with the cartridge fuse blowing, One of your fans or
the
> > > A/c
> > > compressor is causing the problem, Have tried to spin the fan on the
> other
> > > side to see if it is locked up? (do this with the key off) If so try
to
> > > disconect the A/C compressor to see if thats the problem.
> > > If I had to guess,I would say one of the fan motors are locked up
> > >
> > > Glenn Beasley
> > > Chrysler Tech
> > >
> > >
> >
> Im not sure but if you disconnect the relay to the compressor it may also
> take out the fan also so you still may not know if it is the fan or
> compressor. Why not just disconnect the a/c compressor at the connector
that
> way you now are able to determine what is at fault
>

That I know of two things run the fan, high heat or A/C. If it's the fan
fuse that's blowing wouldn't it indicate a short or an excessive load in the
fan circuit? A high amperage draw on the alt could possible pull down the
engine idle but I wouldn't think that much. On the other hand if the A/C is
pulling down the engine rpm I would expect it to blow the A/C fuse not the
fan fuse. Does the A/C comp some how pull power through the fan circuit?

Mark R
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:41 am
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"Mark R" <marknorayspam.DeleteThis@noev1spam.net> wrote in message
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>
> "maxpower" <damnnickname.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:b9KdnRKFcLvxBGrfRVn-og@comcast.com...
> >
> > "TJ" <tjwolf12.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:i_yJe.721$uo2.418@fe06.lga...
> > > Yes! you are a genious Mr Beasley.
> > >
> > >
> > > I didnt tell you the whole truth i guess. We are having trouble with
the
> > AC
> > > compressor. Its been a constant problem for a year and now it doesnt
> > wantot
> > > charge at all( today!) So i would say you are right on the money. I
> > > disconnected the AC relay and now I havent blown a fuse for the last
two
> > > hours Ive been tinkering around with it. i guess the compressor
finally
> > went
> > > out.
> > > My wife is taking it to work tomorrow so we will see.
> > > The passenger side fan is running but I have yet to see the drivers
side
> > > come on.....hmmmm? i will test it tomorrow for resistance by spinning
it
> > by
> > > hand. im not sure when it should kick on. The same time? My temp gauge
> > never
> > > goes past 1/2 so maybe its just not hot enough? Well Im in Dallas so
> > > tomorrow we will see.
> > > Ill let you know what happens. Thanks again...
> > >
> > > Now about that AC compressor..................
> > >
> > >
> > > "maxpower" <damnnickname.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:DJidneeLZYspPWvfRVn-qw@comcast.com...
> > > >
> > > > "TJ" <tjwolf12.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:f8xJe.4171$Mq4.3880@fe05.lga...
> > > >> question on my 99 Intrepid 2.7 ltr
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> The car started over heating today. Assumed the water pump is out.
I
> > > >> realized
> > > >> the fans werent running. Popped the fuse cover and the high speed
and
> > the
> > > >> low speed fuses were burned out. I took another 30AMP and put it in
> the
> > > > low
> > > >> side. It pulled the whole engine down, way down...after a minute it
> > blew
> > > > the
> > > >> fuse again. What could be causing this??? These arent belt run so
> why
> > > > rould
> > > >> it pull the engine down like that? Would a bad electric motor do
> that?
> > I
> > > > did
> > > >> have time to see the passenger side fan WAS running till it blew
the
> > > >> fuse.
> > > > I
> > > >> didnt see if the driver side was running if its even supposed too.
> > > >>
> > > >> Any advice? Seems like i just replaced a fan motor a couple years
ago
> > > >> because the shaft was loose and made the fan rub the shroud.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > > The Generator can pull the enigne down under an extreme load, such
as
> > what
> > > > you experienced with the cartridge fuse blowing, One of your fans or
> the
> > > > A/c
> > > > compressor is causing the problem, Have tried to spin the fan on the
> > other
> > > > side to see if it is locked up? (do this with the key off) If so try
> to
> > > > disconect the A/C compressor to see if thats the problem.
> > > > If I had to guess,I would say one of the fan motors are locked up
> > > >
> > > > Glenn Beasley
> > > > Chrysler Tech
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > Im not sure but if you disconnect the relay to the compressor it may
also
> > take out the fan also so you still may not know if it is the fan or
> > compressor. Why not just disconnect the a/c compressor at the connector
> that
> > way you now are able to determine what is at fault
> >
>
> That I know of two things run the fan, high heat or A/C. If it's the fan
> fuse that's blowing wouldn't it indicate a short or an excessive load in
the
> fan circuit? A high amperage draw on the alt could possible pull down the
> engine idle but I wouldn't think that much. On the other hand if the A/C
is
> pulling down the engine rpm I would expect it to blow the A/C fuse not the
> fan fuse. Does the A/C comp some how pull power through the fan circuit?
>
> Mark R
>

OK Once again DID YOU SPIN BOTH FANS WITH YOUR HAND TO SEE IF THEY SPIN
FREELY????? Make sure the key is off when you do this!!
The a/c fan only turns on when the high side hits 300-350 psi, SPIN BOTH
FANS TO CHECK FOR PROBLEMS
>
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